May 19, 2026

The Trick of the Impact Point with Adam Young

The Trick of the Impact Point with Adam Young
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Adam Young’s obsession with golf started as a kid when he watched Tiger Woods’s swing and drew directly on his TV screen just to understand the swing path. In this episode Adam joins Corrected Mistakes host Josh Karp to talk about how certain golf lessons can actually mess up your swing, where to focus specifically at the point of impact, and a simple fix for one of the most common problems golfers face.

For exclusive content and first access check out Corrected Mistakes on Substack: https://substack.com/@correctedmistake

Former GolfSmarter host, Fred Greene has been nominated for the 2025 Audiocaster of the Year by the Bay Area Radio Hall of Fame Vote now at BARHOF.org. Voting is open through July 1.

Please welcome our new host of Golf Smarter, Josh Karp! Fred has retired and will be working on his game with more intention than ever. You can stay up-to-date with Josh on all the GolfSmarter social accounts or by reaching out at karpj2323@mac.com. To stay connected with Fred reach out at golfsmarterpodcast@gmail.com.

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Probably the best tool you can develop is what I

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call the golden rule, take the fault and try the opposite,

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which sounds so mindumbingly simple to people that most people

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have never tried it. In fact, I get emails daily

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from people saying, you know what, I played years and

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I never tried just doing the opposite of my fault.

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I had a guy maybe a couple of days ago, said,

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I suffered with shanks for almost a year now, I

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was almost quitting the game. I'm a three handicap, and

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he said, I watched one of your social posts and

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it fixed it for me.

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All Right, Well, today my guest is Adam Young from

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Adam Young Golf and he's in Las Vegas and welcome

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to the show.

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Adam, nice to be on, always happy to check golf.

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Well, thank you for taking the time to do it.

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So let's start a little bit talk about you know

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your background. You you grew up in Britain.

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Yeah, so play golf in the rain and the wind constantly,

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got pretty good at that. Played a lot of links golf,

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which I know the Americans love and I hate the

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side of a Lynx golf.

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Wait, you hate lenks courses?

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Oh, it's I like very stable environments, so I like

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to know that if I hit a good shot, it's

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going to be out a good outcome. In Links, there's

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a lot of luck involved. You've got to get the

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right bounce, you've got to I mean obviously if you

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if you play really well, you're going to get good

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outcomes as well, but there's more, there's more luck to it.

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I prefer Parkland, point and shoot style golf, but yeah,

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it's nice to get a good mix. I probably appreciate

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a Links course now after not seeing one for many years.

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Right, right, So how old are you when you started playing?

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Quite late actually, as I was fifteen, very analytical kid,

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so I just get a bunch of books out of

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the library and start learning golf that way. So my

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first books were like led Better and fal Though, so

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it was all a position based and my brain just

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matches onto that completely. So anything that's like mechanical and

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it's like if you do this, you will get this.

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I love that, but unfortunately I found that it was

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chasing my tail for a.

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Yes, So now did you were you kind of self

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taught before you started reading those books or.

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Yeah, well those books taught me so it wasn't a

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lot of self teaching. I was hitting balls on the

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football field soccer field for quite some time, and then

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when I felt ready, I went out on the golf

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course and I think my first, yeah, my first round

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of golf, I shot three over par on a nine

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whole course. It was easy. But my friend who I

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was playing with had played for years and his best

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was forty five around there, nineteen over pa. And he

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was like, I can't believe you just did that. And

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I was like, I'm hooked. Now, I'm in on this.

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And it took me a while to do anything like

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that again, but yeah, that really was a hooking situation

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for me. It really latched me on the golf.

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Oh my god. Yeah, no, I mean so that.

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I've heard so many people talk, guys for pros talk

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about how oh yeah, you know, it took me, you know,

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nine months, and I was, you know, a three handicap

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or you know, a scratch golfer, and the rest of

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us have been slaving away our entire lives to shoot

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the forty five on the nine. So what's I mean

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I've other than talent and drive? Is there something else

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in there?

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The kind of practice obsession I think that I when

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I started golf, I just I wanted everything to absolve

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everything about it. I was drawing lines on the television

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for Tiger Woods is Swing, analyzing it. I was reading

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all these books. I was videoing my swing as a

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fifteen year old and we didn't have iPhones back then.

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My dad's video camera, our JBC video camera, and you know,

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record it and then run back into the house and

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have a look at it and then come back out again.

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It was. It was crazy, but I absolutely loved it.

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Any any moment there was light, I would head down

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to the football field and hit balls until it was

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dark and then come home and just repeat. On summer's

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my parents would drop me off at the golf course

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at seven in the morning and pick me up at

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when it was dark at ten at night. In Britain,

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it gets dark, right, was constantly, so I think it's

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just obsession. And when I wasn't playing, I was thinking

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about it as well. I was writing stats like fairways, greens.

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I was going through imaginary rounds of golf in my

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head with a notebook, saying, oh I'd done that differently,

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I would have scored this. Then I'd write down predicted

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scores like, oh, if I play, if maybe in three

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years time, when I hit it farther, I would imagine

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and like hitting to these different spots. Yeah, now I'm

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saying it out loud. I sound like a crazy person,

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but absolutely crazy for golf. And I think when we

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talk about practice, we often don't talk about the mental

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part of it, like the rehearsing of swings in your head,

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you know, just imagining being on the golf course and

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playing the rounds of golf. Those don't get logged as

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practice hours, but I believe they they have something to

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do with improving as well.

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Yeah, well, talk a little bit about that kind of

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mental side of of game improvement, you know, not just

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on course, but you know, off the course, like when

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you're thinking about it.

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That's not my area of expertise. I'll be honest.

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I know what you're saying. You're saying that you thought

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you know that was helpful, right, I mean, is that

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I think?

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So? I mean I can't see I was it was harmful.

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I mean, if I have the choice, if I've got

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an hour of practice, I'm going to do physical practice

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over over mental practice. But when I couldn't practice physically,

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I would be mentally doing it just thinking about the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And I think it's interesting. I did find the old books,

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and I had books book after book. Book is proper

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crazy stuff, predicted rounds of twelve, like best case scenario,

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current scenarios, and everything in between. And what's interesting is,

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I'm sure you've heard of a vision board, just like

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writing down a vision board. I've achieved those things. So

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my best case scenario is things like, oh, imagine if

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I hit the ball two hundred and sixty yards and

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my seven nine goes one hundred and seventy yards, which

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was crazy at the time when I was writing it,

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But now all those things have come true. And you know,

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I play, I think off a plus two right now.

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I've been as low as a plus five momentarily. But yeah,

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these things, you know, you surpass where you think you're

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going to get to as well.

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Now, so when did you, I mean, did you immediately

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know this is what you wanted to do with your life?

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You know, since you're thinking about it all the time,

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were you like, I'm this is it?

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Or was it just an obsession at the time?

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Interestingly to me, yeah, when I started golf. Probably about

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a year in I'm like, I want to be a teacher.

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I didn't even think of playing the game professionally. I

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watched them. It didn't occur to me, Oh, maybe I

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could be like like them and play. I don't know

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why I don't. I didn't dream big enough as a kid,

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but I loved the mechanical side and the problem solving

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side of it so much that it was always like, oh,

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this is my dream job. And I used to watch

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my local professional he come in. He'd have a completely

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flexible schedule. He'd come in and just like, I'm going

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to cross these hours off, and I'm like, this is

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the life. I want flexible hours. He was earning what

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I thought at the time was a ton of money

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as well, and this is this is the life for me.

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And so yeah, that's kind of where I set my

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brain is, Okay, I'm going to become a coach. Now.

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Well, at most people, I mean most people who become.

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Coaches at one point aspired to be players, right, I

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mean that's yeah, and that so did you I mean

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did you enjoy the competition when did you play competition

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a lot when you were a kid and stuff, or

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did you just love the game.

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Not really because because I started at fifteen, by the

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time I was eighteen, I was I got to scratch ish.

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Then I think it is too handicap, and that was

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the point where you could start to enter these bigger tournaments.

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But by that time I kind of burned out a

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little bit. On the playing side, I mean, we can't

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talk about that. A lot of that was to how

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I was trying to learn golf. I was trying to

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learn it purely mechanically, mechanically, so you know, I was

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putting myself into positions and not understanding why if my

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swing was looking better, why am I not playing better?

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Why am I not scoring better? So there was there

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was a big level of frustration at that point because

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it's like, well, I'm putting all this hard work in

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my swing is looking exactly like everybody says it should look,

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and I'm hitting it worse, so why and no one

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can explain to me why, and so it's hugely frustrating.

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Caused me to burn out a little bit. On the

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competition side, I didn't enjoy it. I still to this

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day don't really enjoy competition that much. I love just

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going out on my own problem solving, figuring it out,

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competition against myself, trying to improve my own stats, my

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own game. I love that side of it, right when

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I'm competing against others and there's a level of lack

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of control over it. You know, you can't shoot, you

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can't control whether someone else goes out and shoots a ten.

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Underpart my brain doesn't like those things as much. And

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so I mean, I like a little bit competition. When

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I go out with the boys, is like, all right,

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let's play for five bucks, let's make something out of it,

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and that's enough for me to get, you know, inspired.

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But you know, once we stop playing for big money,

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I'm like, I'm not enjoying this now because you hit

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a good shot and it's like, okay, I should do that.

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You hit a bad shot, and then you get upset

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because it's like it means, it means so much, and

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it's just I know a lot of people will be like, Okay,

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that's that's weird to not enjoy competition, and.

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I don't think it's weird at all.

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Yeah, honestly, you know, because it really I mean, you know,

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I mean, there's so many reasons to beat yourselfself up

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on a golf course that like, I don't need another.

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Yeah, Like you know, like and I love playing.

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I like playing with my friends, and I don't mind

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playing competition with them.

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But I mostly I just like.

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Playing, you know, I just like you know, the playing

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playing the game, and like you said, playing against yourself,

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playing against the course, like that's enough for me most days.

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Like I don't know, you all want to play better, right,

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we all want to hit well, enjoy the game, so

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they is, there's still motivation to improve, but going out

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and saying, right, I want to beat these people. And

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it's like if I play, if I play poorly and

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win against someone, I have no that that doesn't do

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anything for me. But if I play really well and

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I'm just playing on my own, I go off a

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very happy person, like even if I don't win anything

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as a result of it. So it's more about playing

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well for me.

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And I think you know, to be in competition, I mean,

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I think you have to be wired for that too, right,

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I mean that has.

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To be something you like.

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You know, you just have to love going out there

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and not just playing the game, but like testing yourself

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against Yeah, I mean, if you're on the pjatur. I mean,

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I can't imagine, you know, having all those people there.

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It makes me sick to my something to think about

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the pressure they go through. And yeah, it's it's not

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something that you look at most tall players and do

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they really enjoy what doing a lot of them?

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That's an interesting question. Well, yeah, it's funny.

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There was a book and this is kind of getting

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off track, but there was a book about a fromer

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NBA player wrote and he said, you know that the

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difference between a great NBA team and a bad NBA team,

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or the six guys who aren't the starters and the

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sixth man, he goes because those guys don't love basketball.

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He said, they are just really frigging good at basketball,

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and they're built for it, and it's a job. And

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there's got to be guys on tour for are so good.

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You know that it's probably you know, it's a great

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way to make a living, right if you're good enough.

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But they might they might be like, oh my god,

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this is killing me.

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You know.

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I mean even this year I decided, you know, I'm

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going to try and improve my game because last year

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I was a plus two and I barely played. I

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played once a week, maybe practice once every two weeks.

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My putting was horrible. So it sparked in my head.

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I'm like, I wonder how good I could be if

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I picked up twenty yards, which is really low hanging

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fruit for me, and we actually practiced every day and

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improve my putting. So I started a kind of a

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mini project at the start of the year. And you

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know what, the first three months of this year, I

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hated I hated it, but I had a lot of

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frustration because now you set this target, you set this goal,

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and so anytime you make a bogie or something, it's

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it was really frustrating because it's like that set me

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back from my goal. Now. So there's this balance. I

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mean we kind of I am very much a goal

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setter in life and in golf. I think we need

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we need those to drive us. We also have to

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monitor it and see how it's affecting our motivation, how

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it's affecting our happiness, because ultimately, what was the goal

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of golf for a pro It's I need to play good.

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Happiness is not a relevant factor really if if it's not,

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if it's a byproduct, are playing good? Great? But you know,

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for me, I want to enjoy my game, and so

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I have to balance those things a little bit.

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So we'll talk a little bit now, whose swings did

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you admire him? And obviously failed os probably because you're

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studying him, right, But what were the swings you you

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know you really admired and that you based your years.

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On Tiger pretty much Tiger he was dominating. I started

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when Tiger was dominating, like two thousand and two thousand

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and one, so you know, just watching that in action,

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watching him win tournaments by twelve shots. Unfortunately, at the time,

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I didn't realize how special that was, Like that didn't

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happen these days, winning by what are you in the

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US Open by fifteen shots?

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Oh my god? It was like, yeah, it was fifteen

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strugs or something like that, and.

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So yeah, that was very inspiring to me. So and

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you know, his swing mechanics were beautiful, symmetrical, powerful, athletic.

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This is everything about him is like, Okay, that's the model.

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And so that's why I based my my my improvement

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on And you know, I would do things like make

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make swings and in the reflection of the window, forcing

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myself into positions. I even created belts that I could

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wrap around my arms because I had a flying right

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elbow and Tiger's elbow is down a little bit. I

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realized he had a different physical makeup to me, and

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I ended up tearing my rod cuff trying to force

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myself into positions.

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But yeah, no, that's why I Yeah. I for a

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while was like going, like, God, why can't I get

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it back? Like you know, like Sam Sneid, And I'm like, well,

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of course, you know, he's got the most the most

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flexible human things. But in some part of my brain,

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I'm like, oh, I should be able to do that.

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He can do that.

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Talk so talk a little bit about how you can

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develop your teaching method along the way.

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You know, what were some of the things.

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I Yes, I'm you know, just like most most things

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in life, the bad things that happened to you end

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up being the good things, right, whether you can link

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them to the good things in the future. And so,

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you know, the frustration that I had with the way

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modern instruction was and how you're taught to improve, you know,

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just work on your mechanics, put your swing into positions,

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and you'll get better. My frustration with that led me

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to the epiphany that Okay, impact is what matters. So

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you know, I like very definite things. I like someone

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to say, if you do this, you will get this,

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And these definits can only really be found in the

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impact interval. So the impact interval is basically the half

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inch zero point seventy five of an inch where the

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club is connected to the ball and during that time,

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the ball basically receives all this information from the club

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head and it determines where it flies based on that.

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So there are things like where did you strike it

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on the face. There's ground contact, so did you hit

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the ground early, not at all, or too far in front?

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There's face direction, so which orientation is the face pointing

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more left or more right? There's the path the club

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is moving, so is the club moving out in or

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left or right? There's the vertical path as well, which

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you call attack angle. So is it like an airplane

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coming in? Is it traveling down steeply crash landing, or

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is it very soft touching or is it actually taking

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off and going up as it hits the ball, which

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is not a good idea if you're trying to hit

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the ball off the ground. And then there's a dynamic

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loft as well, So how much people know what loft is,

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but how much is applied at impact. So the last

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one I didn't mention was speed, how fast that clubhead

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is moving at impact. So those are seven impact factors

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and they determine the outcome of the shot. So whenever

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someone comes to me for a lesson and they say,

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well I'm having a problem with this my ball is

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doing this, instantly I can link it to Okay, well

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what's happening in these seven areas or whittle it down

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to maybe one or two of those areas, and then

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we would focus on that in the lesson.

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What do people what are the I mean, are there

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two areas or three areas that come up most of

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the time as opposed.

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To the others.

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Yeah, almost every mistake a golfer will make. So like

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a poet, every mistake golf is in ground contact. Golfers

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often hit the ground too early or not at all,

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so fat or thin to ground contact errors account for

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a lot face contact errors, So too much toe or heel,

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although that that's getting less of an issue with modern clubs.

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They're so forgiving these days. I mean, it can be

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the cause of missing a green if it happens too

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extremely So we hit a toe shank or a heel shank,

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it's going to shoot off ninety degrees to the right,

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So you got to watch out for the extremes with that.

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But yeah, ground contact and face contact are two biggies.

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In fact, I can lump those two things into one thing.

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I can.

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I can say ground contact location, and basically if someone's

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hitting the ground too far away from them or too

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close to them, that relates to face contact. And if

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they're hitting the ground too far behind, too far in front,

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or not at all, that relates to the thin or

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the fats. So really one one thing where you're hitting

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the ground is probably sixty seventy percent of the equation.

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The other twenty or so percent is face orientation at impact,

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and then whatever's left ten percent or so is kind

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of optimizing path, attack angle, dynamic loft, things like that,

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And people put a lot of stock in that last

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ten percent, Like most golfers are so obsessed with their

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club path, and it's like for most golfers, it's more

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of an optimization factor. It's not the it's not the

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reason why they're a bad golfer.

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Basically, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, I've had this thing lately.

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It's probably a terrible thing. You can tell me yes

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or no. Where I gave.

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Up trying to have any like I when I go

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into my back swing, I don't ever even think about

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where it's going because I'm just I just have faith

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that it's coming back in the position. It doesn't always

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come back in the position, right, but I do a

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lot better getting squared impact when I'm not giving any

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thought to where it's going back to, you know. And

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for a while it was kind of nerve wracking because

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I was like, I don't know where the hell I'm

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going with this thing. But now, you know, I feel

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like it's just, you know, it keeps me out of

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having another swing thought.

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And you because you've been taught all your lie O,

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all your golfing life that you need to have a

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certain position in the back swing, right, and that's just

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not true. You know, if you look at some of

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the best plays, and we'll call him Mongomery takes it

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outside the line, Matt Wolf took it outside the line.

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I take it outside the line. Miller Baba took it

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take it outside. I've got I've got a bunch of

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these as files and pictures of golfers who take it

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outside the line and golfers who whip the club inside,

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like John Ray, Floyd Nancy Lopez, and there's just a

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ton of them. You see it less often now because

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more not because it makes you a better golfer to

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take it back a certain way. But everybody who is

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a good golfer right now has had some form of instruction,

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almost everybody, and the instruction is usually take it away

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a certain way. So people mix up correlation and causation, right.

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They think, oh, all the good golfers have a certain takeaway,

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therefore putting me in a certain takeaway is going to

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make me a better golfer. It's like, no, it's a correlation.

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The reason why those good golfers have good takeaways is

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because they got taught that. If no one knew anything

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about what an optimal takeaway is. And by the way,

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I'm joking when I say optimal, there's no But if

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no one knew. If you just got a bunch of

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golfers hitting balls on a desert island and they had

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no contact with the world, no understanding of what a

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good golf spring look like, you'd see a bunch of

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great golfers emerge, but they'd all have different takeaways. Very few.

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You'd have far few people with these textbook looking takeaways.

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And I used to see this actually when I worked

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at IMG academies. You'd see kids from South America who

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had had learned golf themselves and they weren't they weren't

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formally instructed, but they were really good at the game.

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And they'd often get like mini scholarships to come over,

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and they'd all look like Jim Furick or Matt Wolf

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or you know, they'd all have these quirky movements in

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their swings, but they could they could break par they

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could shape it anyway you wanted them to. But their

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swings didn't look textbook. And so that, you know, that

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was a big highlighting moment for me as well. And

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oftentimes when you made these swings more textbook, they didn't

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play well, they didn't play better.

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Right, Yeah, Well, so how do you approach a student

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from that perspective, because you're obviously getting a lot of

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different looking swings. Everybody does not look just like all

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the guys on tour, who all look within a certain

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bandwidth you know of swing, you know, and we're all

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trying to imitate them, which is never going to happen,

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at least for me. And and but we're all we

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all think that's the model, and we all come at

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wide up with a million different swings.

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Anyway, So what how do.

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You teach people who are coming at you with all

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these different issues, you know, or different types of swags.

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Yeah, So the first thing I do is I look

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at what's causing them the biggest issue with their outcomes.

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And again, most of that could be tied to how

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is their ground contact, how is their face contact, and

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how is their face direction? Because the thing is if

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you get those three to be better, the result is

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absolutely guaranteed to be better. And so when a player

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comes to me and they say, well, I'm missing everything right,

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So okay, even without looking at this swing, I know, okay,

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they is too open to the path. Like yeah, people

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could say, oh, their path is off as well. It's

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like no, if you get the face closed enough to

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the path or less open to the bath in the

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slices case, the ball will land on the target. It

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may be a fade onto the target in the slices example.

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So you know someone's like slicing it off to the right.

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You close the face enough, it turns into a nice

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powerful fade that goes on the target. Now, could we

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turn that player into a drawer of the ball. Yes,

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we could, but we don't have to necessarily. We just

470
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.400
have to get the ball on the target, and plenty

471
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:36.279
of pros fade the ball or in most cases, if

472
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.160
you know, if they're above a five ten handicap, almost

473
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:43.920
always it's a face strike and or a ground contact issue.

474
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.720
And so I'm just looking at patterns there. Almost everybody

475
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.680
has a pattern as well. So if the average golfer

476
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.079
hits ten twenty balls, I can say to that person

477
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.119
will on average, you're hitting it about it an inch fat.

478
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.799
If we move that ground contact an inch farther forwards,

479
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.680
this will happen to the outcome. You'll get better distance control,

480
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:08.519
better distance, and even more accuracy for free as well,

481
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.599
because usually when we hit the ground earlier, it also

482
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.960
affects the face angle, so it can it can make

483
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.319
less consistency with direction as well.

484
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.519
Now I okay, Now I can only give myself as

485
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:24.079
an example, but I barely touch the ground, okay, Like

486
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.359
I just graze it, like I never leave at which

487
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.200
I know is bad, right, I'm supposed to be.

488
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:35.039
Yeah, not necessarily. You can. You can be a clipper

489
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.160
of the golf ball and be a pretty good golfer.

490
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:38.799
What I would do with you is I would look

491
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:42.680
at vertical strike. So you can spray the club with

492
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.680
doctor Schall's foot spray, so that allows us ho and

493
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.720
heal contact. So basically you give it a quick spray

494
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.240
doctor Chall's foot spray or dry shampoo something like that

495
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.920
leaves a nice little white dusting on the face and

496
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.759
then when you hit a ball, it leaves an imprint

497
00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.799
of the ball. You can see toll heel, which tells

498
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:02.839
us you know, to a heel the vertical contact. If

499
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.240
it's too low on the face, it's obviously too high

500
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.960
on the face is fat. If you hit it too

501
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.720
high in the face. The only way to do that

502
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.240
is to hit the ground early. So if you can

503
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.880
manage to hit usually it's about between groove three and five,

504
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.119
so we shoot for the fourth groove. If you can

505
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:24.200
hit that, then you're golden. So that that's a replacement

506
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:29.319
for ground contact. Vertical okay contact for those of us

507
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:30.880
who are pickers of the golf ball.

508
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.440
Yeah, because I always try to I literally am like, Okay,

509
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:36.119
I'm just gonna hit so down on this, I'm going

510
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.559
to hit you know, I'm gonna take some you know,

511
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:40.880
a little ground when I and then and it just

512
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.279
screws me up, like unbelievably so. But I like the

513
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.000
idea of putting this stuff out and seeing which groove,

514
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.200
which groove you're hitting on? Now, how I just talk

515
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.599
a little bit about how people learn differently, right, because

516
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:57.200
that's a big part of how you teach, right, It's

517
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.839
based on learning patterns, right.

518
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.279
Yeah, So I mean there are different ways of The

519
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.640
predominant way of learning golf is what through what we

520
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.359
call an internal focus of attention. So that's that's what

521
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.680
they call it in the mode of learning science. Internal

522
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:17.319
focus of attention is basically when you think about what

523
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.559
your body parts are doing. If you ask one hundred

524
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:22.960
golfers on the range, what are your swing thoughts, the

525
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.799
answers you'll get back are thinking about my weight shift,

526
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.480
which is an internal thought. I'm thinking about my head position,

527
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.079
which is an internal thought. I'm thinking about my right

528
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.240
elbow position, my lead wrist, I'm thinking about my shoulder turn.

529
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.759
All of these are body part focuses. Now, you ask

530
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.119
that player what do you think of when you throw

531
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.000
a ball into a bucket, or you just say them,

532
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:49.960
you just say to them, or throw me your keys

533
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.319
and they'll throw they'll throw your keys and you say

534
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.720
what what do you think about doing that? And they say, well,

535
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.559
it's just just trying to get it in your hand.

536
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.960
That's classed as an external focus of attention. It's outside

537
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:06.079
of your body. I would class as an external result focus.

538
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.839
So you're thinking about the end result. So a golf

539
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.880
version of that would be thinking about the where the

540
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.119
ball is finishing, or the shape of the ball, the

541
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:19.359
trajectory of the ball, and so Yeah. Traditionally golf has

542
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.640
always been taught. I would say ninety nine percent of

543
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:26.519
lessons are all internal. Very few lessons are externally focused.

544
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.960
We actually in golf we have an intermediate step I

545
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:35.640
call this external process. External process is basically what is

546
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.319
the club doing? What is the club head doing specifically

547
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:45.039
through impact. So for example of this would be if

548
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.519
I ask a player to brush the grass, and then

549
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:50.640
I say can you brush the top of the grass,

550
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.640
can you brush the middle of the grass, can you

551
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.000
brush the base of the grass. That's an external process result.

552
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.799
So it's not quite You're not quite thinking about what

553
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.000
you want the ball to do. You're thinking about what

554
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:06.119
you want the tool to do. And so these external

555
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:11.200
focuses are I know this is not really a good definition,

556
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.799
but more natural. The way I would say that is

557
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.200
that's how we learn almost everything. That's how we learn

558
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.799
to pick up a glass of water. It's how we

559
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.240
learn to throw a ball towards someone. It's how we

560
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.200
learn to right. You don't learn the right by okay,

561
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.799
I need to bend my wrist thirteen degrees this way.

562
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.160
I need to keep pressure on this finger. I mean,

563
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:34.000
at some point you think may be a part of that.

564
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.519
We don't learn to walk by okay. I need to

565
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.160
bend my leg this way. I need to swing this

566
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.160
arm when my I need to swing my left arm

567
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:46.039
where my right foot is going forwards. We just we

568
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:49.160
make mistakes, right, We just watch someone, we copy it,

569
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.680
and we make mistakes, and our body does what we

570
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:56.039
call self organizes. It figures out the movement patterns needed

571
00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:00.440
to achieve the task. And it's not to say that

572
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.680
external sorry, it's not to say that internal focuses are bad.

573
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.680
It's just that typically we don't learn most everyday tasks

574
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:13.960
that way. Yet golf we spend all our time, well

575
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:16.240
most golfers spend all our time learning that way. And

576
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:21.200
there's scientifically, it's been studied quite a lot, the difference

577
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.000
between internal and external. And while I think there are

578
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.759
some flaws in the studies, I think more research is needed.

579
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:36.839
The studies are pretty solidly on external focuses winning. So

580
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.559
if you give a hundred golfers and you see I

581
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.519
want you to focus on shoulder turn, and you give

582
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.160
another hundred golfers saying I want you to focus on

583
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.799
brushing the grass, the grass brushers will win out in

584
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.519
terms of how quick they learn, how fast they retain

585
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.079
that learning, or you know, how much it is retained

586
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.039
over the course of sessions. How refers to real life

587
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.119
situations like you put them on the golf course, so

588
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.400
pressure situations, it maintains a lot better. And I've done

589
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:09.039
some of these studies myself as well with with beginners

590
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.480
with chipping, for example, I would set up a scenario

591
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:14.640
where they have to chip over a bunker or to

592
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.559
do a little pitch over a bunker, and I would

593
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:20.359
ask these golfers, all right, I want you to focus

594
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.759
on getting the ball up in the air and landing

595
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.319
on this spot. So it's a very externally focused external

596
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.039
result focus. It's like where I want the ball to go.

597
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.279
Then i'd ask the second set of golfers, I want

598
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.799
you to focus on brushing the grass as close to

599
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.359
the ball as you can, so all your focus is

600
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.240
on that. And then ask a third set of golfers

601
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.119
to I want you to focus on keeping your weight

602
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.000
on your left side and like not getting your wrists

603
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.079
to break down. You know, it's the typical of what

604
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.839
most golfers. The weight is on their back foot and

605
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.880
they're trying to scoop it in the air. So more

606
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.119
internally focused. So we actually test in three different types

607
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:03.640
internal external pro says an external result, and with beginners,

608
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:11.240
what I found was the internal focus was not very

609
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.000
good at all. In fact, there was often this conflict

610
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.160
here because you would tell these players, right, you've got

611
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.240
to keep your weight on your front foot, and they

612
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.599
would go backwards, almost as if there's a lack of

613
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.000
control there, like they can't control their body and you

614
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.039
have to really get them to focus on it, and

615
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.559
it's almost like a conflict there. Now. The conflict I

616
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.400
know is because these golfers are trying to get under

617
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.119
the golf ball and lift it in there, because that's

618
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.240
how a beginner thinks you get the ball in the air.

619
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:43.240
So already there's like this idea that, oh, the body

620
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:47.680
is actually trying to self organize for a concept. This

621
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.279
person thinks they have to get under and scoop it,

622
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.240
and so the emotion is doing exactly that. And when

623
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.880
you try and force emotion on a bad concept, it

624
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.920
doesn't hold. So if you've ever tried to do something

625
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.559
in your swing and it hasn't changed, and you're like, God,

626
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.240
this is really difficult to change my swing, there may

627
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.720
be a multi concept conflicting with what you're telling your

628
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.599
body to do. Now. The second group performed the best

629
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.839
in my studies. When I asked players to brush the

630
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.799
ground in the right place. They were the ones who

631
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:21.960
got the ball in the air and over the bunker.

632
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.759
And because that's what is required to get the ball

633
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.079
up in the air, you brush the ground in the

634
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.440
right place, it'll pop up in the air very easily.

635
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.640
And the interesting thing I noted was with these players,

636
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.240
when I was asking them to brush the ground in

637
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.039
the right area, they started to move better. They started

638
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.200
to put their weight on their left side without me

639
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:45.000
telling them, without me even giving them those cues, the

640
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.319
task created the better movement. So basically I changed their concept.

641
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.559
Instead of them now thinking I got to get under

642
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.359
and scoop it, they're now focusing on the task is

643
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.920
brushing the ground next to the ball, and as a result,

644
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.720
the movement improved. Now the third group, the ones who

645
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.000
are asked to focus on getting the ball up, so

646
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.079
they're focusing on the trajectory of the ball where it landed,

647
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.880
they performed awful as well. They started blading the balls in,

648
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.039
they started hitting the ground early. Why because when a

649
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.559
beginner visualizes the ball going up in the air, they're

650
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.719
going to go on their backfoot and try and scoop again.

651
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.079
So again the visual there or the concept was self

652
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:31.840
organizing a poor technique. It does flip for different players, though,

653
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.320
when you get to a high level of golfer. Lots

654
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.000
of high level golfers start to perform better when they

655
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.800
focus on the outcome. The reason for that is they've

656
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.239
spent so many years in graining good mechanics. When they

657
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.480
focus on the outcome, the mechanics are still there. So

658
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.960
so yeah, I mean I think all of these focuses

659
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.360
can be part of the process of learning. I think

660
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.400
there's a time to be internal. I think there's a

661
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.440
time to be externally process and a time to be

662
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.199
externally result focused. I think all of them can be

663
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.840
tools along someone's journey of improvement, and then you can

664
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.400
even test them to say, hey, which one do you

665
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.039
perform best with right now?

666
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:16.159
I'm realizing right now that I performed best with the

667
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.920
middle one. The and I wonder is because I, you know,

668
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.920
I was trying. I gave up trying to do the

669
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.880
internal focus because that just made me crazy, you know,

670
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.679
and just put me in my head. The external focus.

671
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.840
I was like, oh, that's you know, I'll focus on

672
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.880
where I want the ball to go and and all

673
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:40.159
those things. But I realized that, like the best I

674
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.679
play is when I'm focused on just even practice swings,

675
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.840
just the feel of it. I mean, is that, you know,

676
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.480
and and and like you know, I when I get

677
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.480
on the tee, I hit the ball a lot better

678
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.199
if I just kind of do that like Ben Hogan

679
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.559
thing he did on TV, you know, where you just

680
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.320
kind of go back and forth like that changes everything

681
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.159
about the way I wind up hitting the balls. So

682
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.800
is it because it's a feel thing that people do well.

683
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.480
With classes that would be classes internal. But even with internal,

684
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.239
you can separate them into specific or more global. So

685
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.079
something like a feel of rhythm is more global. It's

686
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.960
you're not trying to micromanage individual pieces, whereas if I said, right,

687
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.119
I want to focus on flexing the lead rist, that's

688
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.239
a more specific thing that can throw people off sometimes.

689
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.679
I mean, it could be good thought for some people

690
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.599
as well. I'm a gnostic to all of this stuff.

691
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.760
I don't say anything's good or bad. I say there

692
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.599
are certain advantages to certain things and certain disadvantages to

693
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.599
those same things. You know, I live by the mantra.

694
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:48.559
There's no there are no solutions. There are only trade offs.

695
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:53.000
I almost forgot Wars, and I'm like, oh, that's gonna

696
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.920
sound stupid if I say I lived by this mantra

697
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.800
and can't remember it. There are no solutions, only trade offs. Right.

698
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.000
That's very true in golf, in golf instruction as well.

699
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:05.719
But yeah, you just have to find out what works

700
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.679
for you. What I will say is that there are

701
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:15.639
certain things that are definitely linked to the geometry of

702
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:20.079
good golf. Okay, so if say, for example, if I

703
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.760
get someone to brush the ground in the right area,

704
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:28.400
that's linked to what's happening at impact, which makes the

705
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.280
ball go up, which is good. If I say to

706
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.599
hundred golfers, I need you to shift your weight forwards

707
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.000
more in the swing. If I get those hundred golfers

708
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:40.920
actually do that, the ground contact will move forwards. So

709
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.079
the movement is related to the geometry and that could

710
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.039
either be good or bad for someone, depending on what

711
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.400
they need. Then you have more I kind of call

712
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:54.760
them voodoo golf or rain dance golf in that it's

713
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.159
like you get golfers say things like, oh, when I

714
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.880
put a T in my right pocket, play better. I mean,

715
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.039
that's an extreme example to lay it point that. You know,

716
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.559
these are things are less they may well produce better

717
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:13.119
outcomes for a golfer. You know, golfers might say things like, oh,

718
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:18.480
I'm working on my rhythm or my tempo, and for

719
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:23.239
that golfer in that moment, it may improve them. But

720
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.880
I would be looking if that is true. I would

721
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.480
be looking at why is that golfer better? So what

722
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.320
I would do with that golfer is I'd let them

723
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.920
hit their bad shots and then they say, right, I

724
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.760
perform best when I focus on rhythm, And I would

725
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.199
say to the okay, hit ten shots for me focusing

726
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.239
on rhythm, and at the end of those ten shots

727
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.559
we get test results.

728
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:44.760
Right.

729
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.360
We can see the before in the after, and I

730
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.800
can say to that person, well, yes, you do hit

731
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.480
it better with rhythm, or no, you don't. You just

732
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.920
it's it's a hallucination, which happens a lot. But in

733
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.280
the case where someone says, yeah, I hit it better

734
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.719
with rhythm and the data shows that they do, I

735
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:04.599
can then go in and look and I can tell

736
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.280
them why they hit it better with the rhythm. I

737
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.800
can say, well, you hit the ground better when you're

738
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:11.760
thinking of rhythm. We can see that your ground contact

739
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.000
is not one inch behind, it's one inch in front.

740
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.599
So at least then I'm linking that feel that they

741
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.920
have to what's actually happening and what's actually causing the

742
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:25.199
good shot. That's where I always want to get to, Yeah,

743
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:26.320
causing the good shop.

744
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.519
Now in terms.

745
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:38.000
Of like practicing, like you know, I mean you go

746
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.199
to the every range I go to, there are always

747
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.360
a million people out there and we're all just slamming balls,

748
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.039
and some of us might be getting better, but I'm

749
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.800
not sure all of us are.

750
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:48.719
I don't know that I am.

751
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.960
So what is it about the way we practice as

752
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.840
a whole that is not working?

753
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.840
Do you know the Skinner box pigeon in Skinner experiments

754
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:03.639
Skinner pigeons.

755
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.360
I know enough that I remember it, but I don't

756
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.519
I couldn't describe it.

757
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:14.599
So basically Skinner BF. Skinner put pigeons in a box

758
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.960
and he fed them food pellets randomly, and when he

759
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.679
came back after a few hours, these pigeons were doing

760
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.519
all these weird tics, weird movements, and when he watched

761
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.199
the video footage back, what he saw was the pigeon

762
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.880
would tap on a wall and a food pellet came

763
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:39.519
out ate it. So the pigeons brained. Obviously it doesn't

764
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.519
have language, but it's the brain is linking up. Oh

765
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.159
when I tap, I got a food pellet. So what

766
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.480
does it do It taps again, another food palette comes out.

767
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.760
It may have nothing to do with the tap. They're

768
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.920
random rewards, but now it's got two bits of information saying, oh,

769
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.159
when I tapped twice, I get a food pellett. So

770
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.280
you see again, tap twice, food palt come out. Bang,

771
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:07.400
it's ingrained. Maybe then it taps twice and nothing happens.

772
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.920
It tries it again, nothing happens. It kind of turns

773
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:12.559
around a little bit, and then all of a sudden,

774
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.800
the food palette comes out, and the pigeon's brain is like, oh,

775
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.480
if I tap twice and turn then a food pealet

776
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:21.079
comes out. And then after a while these things get

777
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:27.320
falsely linked. Golfers on a driving range matt are basically

778
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.559
a pigeon in the skin of the experiment. What they

779
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.599
do is they hit a ball, and their food pellett

780
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.039
and golf our food pealettes are was it a good

781
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.079
shot or not? Did it feel good or not? Did

782
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.440
it do what I wanted it to? So a player

783
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.960
hits a shot and it's a bad one. They hit

784
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.239
another shot, it's a bad one. They hit another shot

785
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.559
and it's a good one. What does the person do?

786
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.719
They say, Ah, what did I do differently on that one?

787
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:53.760
Oh?

788
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.760
I think I did I did this. Let me try

789
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.440
that again, doesn't work, they said, Let me try more,

790
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.840
doesn't work. Let me really trying to quadruple it. And

791
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.039
they hit a good shot. Now that person is locked

792
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.840
in on whatever it was now that thing that they

793
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.639
were trying might have had nothing to do with what

794
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.480
actually was causing a good shot. In fact, in many cases,

795
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.400
what they're trying to do could be harmful to the development.

796
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.039
An example of that would be, and you know what,

797
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:34.320
I don't think people normally arise to this thing themselves.

798
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.800
I think normally they're told it by someone is head down, Oh,

799
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.440
keep your head down. I see this all the time,

800
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.840
maybe husbands teaching their wives, or men teach their fathers

801
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.159
teaching their kids. The kid is like moving beautifully, their

802
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:53.519
heads rotating nicely, they're springing up, they're moving like an athlete,

803
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.440
and then all of a sudden, they hit a bad shot.

804
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:57.599
Even though they might have moved well, they hit a

805
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.639
bad shot because maybe they hit it two grooves low

806
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.239
on the face right, and it's it's And the dad says, oh,

807
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.599
you've got to keep your head down. So the kid

808
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.599
then tries to keep his head down. It's still a

809
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:10.840
bad shot. He's like, more, keep your head down more.

810
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.880
So the kid's now locked in place, their heads like

811
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.880
fixated on the ground. They make a swing, their entire

812
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.239
arms collapse, their body doesn't rotate, and if they hit

813
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.800
a good shot doing that, which you can you can

814
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:26.159
make a horrible movement and hit a good shot. That

815
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.719
kid is now locked in and now they're locked into

816
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.039
making a bad movement, right, So then now their body

817
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.280
is rotating and it can cause When I say a

818
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.440
bad movement, I mean a movement that can cause injury.

819
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.039
It's gonna limit speed in the long term as a

820
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:47.480
long term as well, so it just completely destroys the athleticism.

821
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.400
So yeah, we got to be careful what we're linking

822
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.880
up here. And to your question why the most golfers

823
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.440
not improved is because they're just they're out there linking

824
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:04.639
random things to the result and sometimes rarely they will

825
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.400
link something good like I love it if a player went, oh,

826
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.320
I shifted my weight more forwards and I hit the

827
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.400
ground better. That's a good linking, right, because that makes

828
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:17.679
sense the midd links. But unfortunately, what I see I

829
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.719
see I've seen a lot of golf. I've seen a

830
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.559
lot of golf as a teacher is bad linking.

831
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:24.639
Son.

832
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.440
Example of a bad linking would be, oh, my ball

833
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.880
went right, I'm going to weaken my grip off and

834
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:34.960
then the next swing they hit the ground a foot

835
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.639
behind it closes the face and they hit one straight.

836
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:41.639
Grip them.

837
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.360
It is like, no, they introduced two faults that made

838
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.480
the ball goes. I see that all the time, stuff

839
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:46.760
like that.

840
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.440
So so what do you So? What should somebody? What

841
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.400
should you know? Obviously you need to know what to

842
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.079
work on, right? I mean that is that the number

843
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.239
one step in practicing better first step.

844
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.639
I have these different layers of when I'm educating people.

845
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.559
A lesson with me is more a lot more theory

846
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.599
than practice. I'm obviously watching them hit balls, but I'm

847
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.320
trying to get that person to coach themselves, and I'm

848
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.559
these levels I go through is number one, do they

849
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.079
know what creates a good shot? And so, like I

850
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.239
said at the start, what creates a good shot is

851
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.639
a good impact. Specifically, it was ground contact good? Was

852
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.760
the face contact good? Was the face direction good? Those

853
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:33.360
are the three most fundamental things in golf. If you

854
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.320
do those three things, the outcome will be good. Even

855
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:41.880
with a bad movement, the outcome will be good. The

856
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.960
next stage to it is, okay, if you know what

857
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.360
creates a good shot, do you know what you are

858
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.880
doing in that? So, when I'm in a coaching session,

859
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.199
when a player hits a bad shot, I as a coach,

860
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.639
instantly looks at it and goes, oh, it was twenty

861
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.599
millimeters off the toe. That's why I was a bad shot.

862
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:02.800
But I don't tell them that. I ask them, I say,

863
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.599
why do you think that felt worse than the one before,

864
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.400
which was a really good shot? Why do you think that?

865
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.639
And they might not give me the right answer. They

866
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:14.719
might they might say, oh, I don't know. Maybe the

867
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.960
face was open. I don't know. And so I'm educating

868
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.519
them to help them identify the actual issue and how

869
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.840
they can do this themselves without my trained eyes. Foot

870
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:31.440
spray and ballflight will tell you almost everything. If you

871
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.679
use foot spray and you see that the strike is vertically,

872
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.280
it's say it's on the fourth groove, we know hit

873
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:41.000
You've hit the ground pretty well. There's some caveats to that,

874
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.840
but for most people, Okay, you've hit the ground pretty well.

875
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.320
If it's on the fourth groove, if it's close to

876
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.559
the center third of the face, you've struck it pretty well.

877
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.400
Tone heel as well. How do we know if face

878
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.960
is appropriate, the ball is going to go on the target?

879
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.639
Simple algorithm as if the ball goes too far right,

880
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.480
the face has been too open. If all goes too

881
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.440
far left, the face has been too closed, and you've

882
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.599
got to try and balance that. You've got to try

883
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.440
and balance that equation. So it's first, do we understand

884
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.880
what creates a good shot? That's level one. Level two

885
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.880
is do you know what you are doing? Are you

886
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:18.559
getting good feedback on it? Level three is then, okay,

887
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.239
do you know how to change this? If you hit

888
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.199
shots and you see, oh, they're all on the toe

889
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.239
of the club, do you know how to move that

890
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.400
more towards the heel, more dowards the center. And that's

891
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.880
where we start building these tools. And so the simplest

892
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:39.039
or yeah, it's simple, and probably the best tool you

893
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.800
can develop is what I call the golden rule. Take

894
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.960
the fault and try the opposite, which sounds so mind

895
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:52.320
numbingly simple to people that most people have never tried it.

896
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.880
In fact, I get emails daily from people saying, you

897
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.239
know what, I played years and I never tried just

898
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.480
doing the opposite of my fault. So I had a

899
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.599
guy maybe a couple of days ago, said, I suffered

900
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.719
with shanks for almost a year. Now, I was almost

901
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.519
quitting the game. I'm a three handicap and he said,

902
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.599
I watched one of your social posts and it fixed

903
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.599
it for me. And he said, all it was was

904
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.199
I tried to hit out of the toe more. He said,

905
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.519
it's so silly. I don't know why I've never tried

906
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.880
that before. No one teaches this. Why I just emailed back.

907
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.559
I said, I don't know why people don't teach it

908
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.239
because I see it work every single day, the amount

909
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.039
of shank as I've had in my lesson tea where

910
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.039
they're like, I'm on the verge of quitting. And I said,

911
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:41.920
entertain me for a moment. Can you just try and

912
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.199
hit a few shots out of the toe? And they try,

913
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.159
and we look at the data and they say that's

914
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.039
still a little heally, can you try and hit even

915
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.239
more out of the toe for me? And we try

916
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.679
and I'm going it's better, but it's still not toey.

917
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.480
I said, I want you to really toe at this time.

918
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.800
I want you to hit the shiny part of the toe.

919
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.159
And they go off and they hit ten shots and

920
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.119
we have a look at it and they're like, wow,

921
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.960
all of those were flushed, and I say, yeah, for

922
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.280
the last thirty balls, you didn't hit one shank guy either.

923
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.039
They're like, well, that's yeah, that's crazy. I didn't even

924
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.360
think about that. I'm like, yeah, you're literally just taking

925
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.199
the fault heel and trying the opposite, trying to hit

926
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.440
the toe, and it's improving the pattern. I see this

927
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.559
in ninety nine percent of cases.

928
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:27.920
Yeah, no, it's funny.

929
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.760
I mean I had a club fitting about three months ago,

930
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.760
first time I've ever had club's fit, and my problem

931
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.679
is pushing it right and slicing. And they show you,

932
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.599
you know, all the data from the different clubs up there,

933
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:44.719
and all of a sudden, I look and they're showing

934
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.239
me where I'm hitting the ball with my driver, and

935
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:53.559
every single ball I am hitting right off the toe basically,

936
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.360
I mean I'm hitting right of you know what I mean,

937
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:58.559
I'm hitting it, you know, a decent distance, and it's

938
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:05.000
going straight, but slicinger going straight right, And all of

939
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:06.679
a sudden, and I was like, God, well how do

940
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.159
I do this? And I was like, Oh, the simplest

941
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:09.800
thing is why don't I try to hit it off

942
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.039
the heel? Yeah, every time, And I've not hit a

943
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.000
drive out of bounds since I've hit everything, and it's

944
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.320
and I was like it could it possibly be that easy?

945
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.880
Because I first I tried, I'm no.

946
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:30.440
Correct you there, moment not simple, very thank you. Yeah, yeah, yes.

947
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.480
That is a great distinction. I started doing it with

948
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.679
my other clubs too, and it's because I was trying

949
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.239
to change the way I was swinging. Yeah, And all

950
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:40.880
of a sudden I was like, it's maybe it's just

951
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.840
where I'm putting my club on the ball when I

952
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.519
line up, and it has made a huge So but

953
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.400
is it literally, like you said, ninety nine percent of

954
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.519
the time, if you find the right compensation and it's

955
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.719
just doing the opposite, that'll.

956
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.199
Yeah, just just feeling the opposite because these things are

957
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:03.239
so small, right, The example I give you is actually

958
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:05.840
the biggest change. So if you get a shanker and

959
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.159
you want to convert them to a more centered striker,

960
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.199
you got to change it by an inch or so,

961
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.519
Like there's a difference between a flush shot and a

962
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.440
shank is about an inch more towards a heel. That's

963
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.599
actually the biggest change. Now, even with that, if you

964
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.280
show someone shank, if you show a video of someone

965
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.400
hitting a shank and someone hitting a flush shot, only

966
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.960
the most trained eyes will be able to see the

967
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.480
difference between those. Now we can see the difference in

968
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.239
the result. Right, A flush shot flies long, far goes

969
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.519
relatively towards the target. Shank shoots ninety degrees. Right, we

970
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:43.360
assume because the result has been so drastically different, that

971
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.719
we have done something so drastically different. We haven't. It's

972
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.400
a lie, it's a myth. One of the best tests

973
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.760
that your listeners can do is to go off and

974
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.679
video this wing and wait for a good shot, and

975
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:57.960
when they do that, put a thumbs up to the camera.

976
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.840
Then keep hitting, wait for a bad shot, put a

977
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.760
thumbs down, and go off and analyze those two just

978
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.360
so you can when you're scrolling through, yoh, that one's

979
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.199
the good one, that one was the bad one. With

980
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.719
the thumbs up the thing, and then go and video

981
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.159
them side by side. If you have that ability, you

982
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.400
will not see the difference between them. Because it's an

983
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.679
inch in It can be less than that. I mean, honestly,

984
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.679
a difference between a shank and someone hitting an okay

985
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:24.920
shot out of the heel, it's like a quarter of

986
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.920
an inch really right right now, it gets even more,

987
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.920
it gets even smaller with the differences. When we're talking

988
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:38.159
about things like direction. So when you slice a driver

989
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:43.199
forty yards right, and this is undeniable because we have

990
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.320
launch monitors showing this. Now, when you slice a driver

991
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:50.920
forty yards right, the club face has been three degrees

992
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.440
more open than the one that was piped on the center.

993
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.400
So imagine you hit two shots right, pipe one down

994
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.519
the center, next one goes forty yards right. You go

995
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.000
into the launch monitor data, you have a look, and

996
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.360
what you see is, oh, the club face was three

997
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:10.360
degrees more open. Now three degrees It is half a

998
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.159
second on a clock face. It's nothing. In fact, I

999
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.880
have visuals images that I post on social media a

1000
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.159
lot of a square face and one that's three degrees open.

1001
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.079
People look at it and they go, god, I had

1002
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:24.880
to really look at that to see if there's a

1003
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.880
difference there. And that's the difference between thirty yards more

1004
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.800
right at about two hundred and fifty two hundred and

1005
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.000
sixty yards. Even if you only hit it two hundred yards,

1006
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.000
it's still like thirty yards right.

1007
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:39.199
Yeah.

1008
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.639
People often think, oh, I've done something so drastic, and

1009
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.559
it's like, no, you haven't. This game is super difficult,

1010
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.280
and if you want to fix that forty yard slice.

1011
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.800
You've just got to get the face three degrees more closed,

1012
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.400
which is not much at all. Now that the caveat

1013
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.800
to that, or the addition to that is three degrees

1014
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:02.480
might feel like a lot when you actually go and

1015
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.400
try and make the change. I've had people hitting forty

1016
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.000
yards right, forty yards right, forty yards right, and I say, right,

1017
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.639
try and close the face for me, and it's twenty

1018
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.960
yards right, thirty yards right, ten yards right, and they're like,

1019
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.840
I'm really trying to do this year And we go

1020
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.840
into a launch monitor and say, well, you're moving it

1021
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:22.000
in the right direction, but you're only one degree more closed,

1022
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.119
and they could they go, wow, it felt like I

1023
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:26.920
was closing it ten degrees right.

1024
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:27.159
Yeah.

1025
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.239
Feel is not real. This is where technology can help us,

1026
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.559
really is bridging the gap between feel and real. And

1027
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.960
there are some people who are the opposite. It's rare

1028
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:39.360
for an adult, but some players. I'll say, can you

1029
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.000
try and close the face? And they overdo it. Again,

1030
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.000
technology helps you. You say, oh, you felt like you

1031
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.679
closed it two degrees and you actually closed it twenty.

1032
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:50.280
Let's try and find somewhere in between. I'll be honest,

1033
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.559
most adults are underdoers. So you ask them to do

1034
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:57.719
a task and they underdo it. Kids are overdoers. You

1035
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.280
ask kids to close the face and they'll sl lamate

1036
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.360
shut and hit it forty yards left off the planet.

1037
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:05.719
So kids, you have to be more careful and not careful,

1038
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:07.920
but you have to tell them to make smaller changes.

1039
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.079
Adults you could really are going to get in there

1040
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:15.039
and kick them to make a proper change often. But yeah,

1041
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:18.119
so three degrees can be the difference between a successful

1042
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:22.440
shot and a non successful shot. Half an inch an

1043
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.440
inch on the face can be the difference between a

1044
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:29.559
shank and one that's flush with ground contact, It's even

1045
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:35.679
scarier one groove of height change. So a player hits

1046
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:41.000
the fourth groove flush, next shot, they hit the sixth groove.

1047
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.000
So as let's say two shots higher on the face

1048
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.400
and they laid the sod over it, right, that's the

1049
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:53.880
difference we're looking at there. Pros have unbelievable depth control. Okay,

1050
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:55.599
what I mean by that is if I ask a

1051
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.559
if I ask a pro to brush the top of

1052
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.679
the ground, and they will be able to control the

1053
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.599
depth very very well. In fact, I used to do

1054
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.840
these little drills with players where I would get a

1055
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.039
towel and I would put a bottle cap on top

1056
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.360
of it, and I'd say, right, I want you to

1057
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:16.920
practice clipping the bottle cap off without moving the towel. Right,

1058
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:18.880
So imagine if you swing a little too high, you

1059
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.760
miss the bottle cap, you swing a little bit too low,

1060
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.599
the towel bunches and flies out everywhere. A progue can

1061
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:28.039
stand and do that drill all day. I can put

1062
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.000
one of those little thin bottle caps, the water bottle

1063
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.920
caps like a desani, and they'll do it all day.

1064
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.480
And then you get amateur and they're not very good

1065
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.800
all at all. Well, actually I say they're not very

1066
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.400
good at it. They're good, just not as good as

1067
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.000
a pro. And like I said, the difference there between

1068
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.199
the difference between a pro level control is a pro

1069
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.840
has about a three millimeter standard deviation, right, which is

1070
00:56:55.880 --> 00:57:00.920
about a one groove standard deviation. With a bad golfer,

1071
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:03.280
it's about a one and a half to two groove

1072
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:07.159
standard deviation right right. On the one hand, you could say, oh,

1073
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.400
it's not that different, is it. It's one groove difference huge.

1074
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.679
The other hand, you could say, well, that's actually fifty

1075
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.320
two one hundred percent worse. So you know, twice as

1076
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.920
twice the standard deviation is more pro. But so on

1077
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.079
the one hand, you can say, oh, god, yeah, I

1078
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.719
am bad at it if I've got two group standard deviation.

1079
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:26.159
But on the other hand, you could look at it

1080
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.960
and say, well, hey, I'm not actually that far off

1081
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:33.360
from a pro. It's just they're doing these little things

1082
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.480
really really well. And my life has been spent teaching

1083
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.440
people how do we do these little things really really well?

1084
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:47.199
Now?

1085
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.280
What are a you know, say, I'm listening to the

1086
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.280
show and I want to just I'm not gonna take

1087
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.880
a lesson. I'm you know, I would watch your YouTube

1088
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:57.559
videos if I.

1089
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:57.960
Was one of them.

1090
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.039
But I but if I'm not taking all but you're

1091
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:03.559
giving me two or three things to just go out

1092
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.280
and do right now that can have an impact on

1093
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:06.679
my game.

1094
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:07.400
What would you do?

1095
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:13.280
Spray the face number one? Number two, tinker around with

1096
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:15.760
like try and hit ten shots from the toe, Try

1097
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.880
and hit ten shots on the heel. You will learn

1098
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:21.599
so much doing that. Wonder the first time you do it,

1099
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.280
you may not have success with it. You may try

1100
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.400
and hit ten shots on the toe and they're all centered.

1101
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.360
You just learned something valuable there you might hit Try

1102
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.480
and hit ten shots on the heel, and you're hitting

1103
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:33.840
all shanks and you're like, oh God, I overdo that.

1104
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.679
You've learned something. You've learned that you are more heel

1105
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.679
biased with everything you may learn they're actually pretty good

1106
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.079
at it. Oh when I try and hit ten from

1107
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:42.599
the toe, I'm quite good at it, And ten from

1108
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:44.199
the heel, I'm quite good at it. Maybe I should

1109
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:45.840
focus on this a little bit more. You're going to

1110
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.719
learn something from the task. Try and hit ten shots

1111
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:51.079
a little higher on the face by digging in a

1112
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.360
little deeper. Just say yourself, R, I'm really going to

1113
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.119
thump and dig in a little on the mat here,

1114
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.440
hit them high on the face. Then try and say, right,

1115
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.360
I'm just gonna pick it off the surface. I'm gonna

1116
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.000
imagine the ground is glass and I'm just gonna imagine

1117
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.719
picking the ball off the surface without smashing the glass.

1118
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.519
You'll hit it lower on the face. Then try and

1119
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:10.840
go somewhere in between with them. So with both of

1120
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.800
those tasks, ten off the toe, ten off the heel.

1121
00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.920
Now try in between ten high on the face, ten

1122
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:19.119
low on the face. Now try in between, try and

1123
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.840
hit ten shots left, try and hit ten shots right,

1124
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:25.719
then do in between. You will learn so much from

1125
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.960
that and just understand the concept that face orientation is

1126
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.920
going to be the biggest determinant of whether the ball

1127
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:36.000
goes right or left. So by just doing those two

1128
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:41.920
are those three tasks you're you're learning so much with

1129
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:42.519
that with.

1130
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:46.039
Those Yeah, no, that's really that's really helpful because that

1131
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:49.079
I'm actually like, I'm going to go do that. So

1132
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.920
one one sold and you got a lot more her

1133
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:54.400
sold out of the world.

1134
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.000
Well, Adam, the next step to that would be say

1135
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.800
someone can't do it right. So that's that's why I start.

1136
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.760
With most people, I'm like, okay, can you hit shots

1137
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:05.840
from the toe for me? And we test their ability.

1138
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.679
With a really good player, I might give them a

1139
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.119
task of I want you to hit it five millimeters

1140
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:12.960
off the toe for me, and I've got a GC

1141
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.800
quad running so I can tell their ability. And then

1142
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.280
I say, hit some ten milimeters off the toe and

1143
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:20.760
I can tell their ability. Very high skilled players can

1144
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:22.920
move it, and they can move it in specific amounts

1145
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.920
as well, so you can scale the task if you

1146
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.599
want to. So instead of just going left and right,

1147
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.079
I might say to a player hit a small left,

1148
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.280
a medium left, a big left. So we're now layering

1149
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:41.559
more parts to this task here. If a player can't

1150
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:45.000
do a task, like say I'm asking a lifelong slicer,

1151
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.000
can you close the face down and hit it left?

1152
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.119
And they just they try and after twenty shots they can't.

1153
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.360
We may then go into well, let's look at what

1154
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:57.320
there is technically that may be limiting your ability to

1155
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:58.920
do it, and we would say, okay, you've got a

1156
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.039
really weak grip. Let's put your grip in a stronger

1157
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.320
position and now try the task again. So again that's

1158
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.480
an internal focus. I'm not anti internal Changing your grip

1159
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.760
is a mechanical thing, but that might help them to

1160
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:17.519
achieve the task. Now, So technique for me, when I'm

1161
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.960
changing techniques with players, it's all task related. It's like, right,

1162
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:26.199
what task does this player struggle with? What technical things

1163
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.320
can we add to them to help them with that.

1164
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.000
So say, for example, someone stands quite far away from it,

1165
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:35.039
like Bryson de Shambeau, if they're hitting the sweet spot

1166
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.320
all the time, I'm like, hey, you keep doing that,

1167
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.800
that's fine, I'm okay with that. Bryson does it? MO

1168
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.280
normal used to do it. Yeah, there are many color

1169
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.039
players who do it, but that's okay. But if that

1170
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.280
player says I'm hitting everything out of the toe, my

1171
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.880
first thing would be, well, let's see if you can

1172
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:55.119
hit out the heel. And usually in that first round

1173
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:57.480
they start to naturally stand a little closer to it,

1174
01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.360
so I don't have to tell them they move closer.

1175
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.039
They naturally do it. But if they don't, then they

1176
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.719
can't hit the heel. Then I might suggest to them, hey,

1177
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.920
what about standing a little closer to it and then

1178
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:10.679
seeing if you can do this heel task And they're like, oh, yeah,

1179
01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:14.760
that was a lot easier now. So the movement doesn't

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have to become more textbook, but we can use that

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as a tool if a player is struggling with a task.

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01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.079
If they don't struggle with the task, we don't need

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01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.679
to change it. I've got players with weak grips who

1184
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:29.760
hit straight shots. I don't need that grip to move

1185
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.400
to a more neutral position if they're hitting straight shots

1186
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.559
with it. Because there are plenty of top players of

1187
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:38.199
weak grips. Bryson is one, more Coauer is one, and

1188
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:40.760
there are plenty of players with strong grips Dustin Johnson

1189
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:43.559
is one, Paul Asingo is won, David Duval was one.

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01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:48.199
Web Simpson was strong grip. I need not any motion,

1191
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.719
but there are a wider range of motions and grips

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01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.159
and setups that can work. Then you would be led

1193
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.159
to believe all you have to do is to be

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01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:02.360
able to do the task of impact. And if you

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01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.960
can't do the task of impact, we could use technique

1196
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.159
changes to help us with the task of impact, but

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01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:10.840
it all comes down to the task of impact.

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01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:16.480
One last question for you. So you're talking about more Norman. Yeah,

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01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:22.360
and you know, there are obviously all these school schools

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01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:24.280
of thought as to how to swing a club. And

1201
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:25.920
I see a lot of a lot of people want

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01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.159
to study more Norman, and a lot of people want

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01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:32.800
to study Ben Hogan. Yea, And I mean and and

1204
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.559
and it seems to me, you know, like the Hogan thing.

1205
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.320
I mean, obviously the guy had, like, you know, this

1206
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:41.360
incredible repeatable swing, but he developed it right because he

1207
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:45.440
was hooking the ball. So we're all trying to adapt

1208
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.800
to a swing that one of the great players of

1209
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.480
all time had created because he was hooking right to

1210
01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:56.039
some extent, and with more Norman it's like amazing, but

1211
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.719
it's I've tried it and I cannot very homegrown.

1212
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.480
Yeah, worked for him, not.

1213
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:05.079
For So what what is the applicability you know of

1214
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.199
some of a individual players swing spread out into the world,

1215
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.280
you know, I mean, are there I mean obviously some

1216
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.519
people can learn and really excel with those swings.

1217
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.800
But you know, is that what? What? What? Just what's

1218
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:18.480
your take on.

1219
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:22.199
Kind of you know, embracing one kind of school of

1220
01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.519
thought that way and going with it, or is it

1221
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.599
more you want to just find your natural way of

1222
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:28.280
hitting the ball.

1223
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.519
The analogy I would use for this is dieting. Right,

1224
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:36.119
I've done a lot of look at research. Now whether

1225
01:04:36.159 --> 01:04:39.119
you agree with this or not is actually scientifically proven.

1226
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.400
But whether I've failed at both golf and dieting side.

1227
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.440
Failing and dieting right now. Yeah, But the if you

1228
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:52.760
look at every diet study, it all comes down to calories, right.

1229
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.440
So you can look at high cob diets, low cob diets,

1230
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:57.760
you can look at high fat dietes, low fat diets,

1231
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.800
any mix you want out the letter k out your diet.

1232
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.920
They will all work if they reduce calories, even high

1233
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.880
sugar diets. There there's a study by sir whether they

1234
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:12.280
put metabolic war they put one group on high sugar,

1235
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.039
one group on low. They lost the same weight if

1236
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:22.360
calories were controlled. That is analogous to impact. If you

1237
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.000
get the calories right, you will lose weight. If you

1238
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.719
get impact right, you will lose weight. What you have

1239
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.239
to find out is, well, what method is right for

1240
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.920
me to achieve a calorie deficit. So for some people

1241
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.320
that might be low carb, they might try low carb

1242
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:41.440
and they might say, ah, this is easy for me

1243
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:47.880
to get low calories. That's the equivalent of someone saying, oh,

1244
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.239
I tried the most Norman swing and it got my

1245
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:54.159
impact better. But other people might try low carb and

1246
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.159
they're like, oh God, if you're awful on this and

1247
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.000
I can't stop, I get cravings and I overeat, which

1248
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.440
is basically them try and more Norman swing and being like,

1249
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.159
I can't get a task of impact. Here's that right?

1250
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.880
What's the one of the true fundamentals of dieting or

1251
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.360
golf golf. It's impact the method. There are a million

1252
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:16.719
methods that work, there are a million diets that work right,

1253
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.559
but do you have to abide by the principle of

1254
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:22.960
impact or calorie control. So I don't want to go

1255
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.000
too far off on the announced, No, but I.

1256
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.480
Totally it's absolutely right.

1257
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.800
I mean, because if your daily calories are two thousand

1258
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.880
and you stay below that or keep your exercise, you know,

1259
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:39.119
burn enough calories to get below that, you lose weight

1260
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:41.159
and you can eat all the protein of the world,

1261
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:44.800
you know, nothing else than you you know, don't.

1262
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:48.679
Now that's not to say that some diets won't. Some

1263
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:50.840
diets might be better than others, you know, like a

1264
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:53.599
Mediterranean diet is probably going to be better than the

1265
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.599
twinkie diet, right, but both both will work if you're

1266
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:00.480
trying to lose weight. I mean, it's been proved. There's

1267
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.199
a professor Harvard who did a twinkie diet. He ate

1268
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.320
eighteen hundred calories a day on of twinkies, and he

1269
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:08.960
lost thirty pounds and all his blood markers improved. Now

1270
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.679
if he continued that for forty years, I don't know

1271
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:13.719
what the effects would be on the health. And yeah,

1272
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:18.239
there are certain ways of achieving impact that might not

1273
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.719
be really optimal, but if you achieve impact, you'll get

1274
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.320
the result. Right, So this is where you can get

1275
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.679
You can use a coach to help you. You know,

1276
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.400
like I said, you don't. You don't want to use

1277
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.360
a super weak grip and I hit the ground early

1278
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:38.599
to close the face. That's not it's in effect, you're

1279
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.559
actually getting one of the impact tasks. Incorrect anyway. So

1280
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.039
but yeah, in terms of choosing a model, I think

1281
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:47.159
you have I think we have it the wrong way around.

1282
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:50.800
I think we should focus more on what what is

1283
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:54.239
the task? Am I achieving that? And then we can

1284
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.719
pick and choose from models. So I'm model like not agnostic.

1285
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:03.719
What I say is is if someone struggles to close

1286
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:08.320
the face, I can draw upon different models or just

1287
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:13.119
understanding of how different movements affect the face. Well, I

1288
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:15.440
know that if I get a hundred golfers and I

1289
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:18.159
give them a stronger grip position which means hands turn

1290
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.800
more to the right, those hundred golfers on average will

1291
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.039
close the face more. So we can say, okay, there's

1292
01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:29.159
an overarching rule. Stronger grip tends tends to close the

1293
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:33.399
face for golfers. Similarly, if you get a hundred golfers

1294
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.000
and you add more forearm rotation through impact of course supernation,

1295
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:40.560
they will close the face more. If you get a

1296
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:44.520
hundred golfers and you cup the wrist more at the

1297
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:48.960
top of the swing, go into extension leader's extension, they

1298
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.319
will tend to open the face more so, or vice versa.

1299
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.520
They'll tend to close if they're more flexed or bode

1300
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:58.000
with the wrist. So that's a kind of complicated one, definitely,

1301
01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.479
but it's an option for me. So say I player

1302
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.279
is like, I'm hitting everything right. So okay, well, we

1303
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:06.760
know the face is too open to the path. What

1304
01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:10.960
are our options here? While we could strengthen the grid position,

1305
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.399
we could add more supernation at the bottom, we could

1306
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.680
add more lead reflection. I could just give a player

1307
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.319
the task of can you close the face of impact?

1308
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:24.119
And maybe they self organize different wrist angles without me

1309
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:27.520
telling them to. So there's lots of ways of AI

1310
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.920
achieving this goal, but it's all centered on the task

1311
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:34.560
of impact. Models and swing pieces are just ways of

1312
01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:35.880
helping us achieve that.

1313
01:09:37.640 --> 01:09:39.760
Adam, thank you for doing this, man, You're great and

1314
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.319
this was really really educational and I'm glad we took

1315
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.479
the time to do it. So can you tell people

1316
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:46.199
where they can find you?

1317
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.800
Yeah, adamongolf dot com. I've got tons of articles on there.

1318
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:54.800
There's some freebies as well, like free ebooks giving you

1319
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.720
visuals of the certain fundamentals that we talked about. See

1320
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.319
if you go onto any blog you know, for about

1321
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:03.920
a tenth of the way down, it'll say, hey, enter

1322
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:05.960
your email here for the free ebook, and then you

1323
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.119
can continue reading the blog. But yeah, I've got products

1324
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.279
on there as well. I do have paid products if

1325
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.640
people want, like really structured plans. This thing like the

1326
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.840
strike plan helps you with ground contact and face contact.

1327
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:24.279
The accuracy plan helps you with directional issues. So everybody

1328
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.159
has both to get both if you want, or if

1329
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:28.439
there's just one one issue, just get the one that's

1330
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:29.399
most pertinent to you.

1331
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.600
I'd love to meet the guy with one issue that's

1332
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.199
not me well, and and he has you have great

1333
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.800
video content, so everybody should totally check it out. Thank

1334
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.159
you for being on Golf Smarter, Adam,