May 15, 2026

The Secret of Park City Utah - SUMMER! | Mulligans

The Secret of Park City Utah - SUMMER! | Mulligans
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This week on the Mulligans episode, Fred Greene sits down with Bobby Trunzo to talk about the beauty of Park City, Utah in the summer.

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Hey, everybody, Happy Friday, It's Josh Kart.

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Next week, my interview with Adam Young drops on Tuesday,

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but for now, listen to this week's Mulligan's episode, The

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Secret of Park City, Utah with Bobby Toronzo. Golf Smarter

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Premium number five hundred and three, published on August twenty five,

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twenty fifteen. The Big Secret of Park City, Utah Summer

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with Bobby Trunzou of Park Meadows Country Club. This is

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Golf Smarter Premium. Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to

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the Golf Smarter Podcast. Bobby.

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Hey Fred, how are you.

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I'm fine? How are you?

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I'm doing great. Thanks.

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I know how busy your time is, and I really

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appreciate you making some time to talk to me today.

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No problem.

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I'm having a wonderful time here in Park City. It's

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the first time I've ever been here. I've been here

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almost a week. We leave tomorrow actually, and I am

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just blown away. First of all, the beauty is remarkable,

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and the secret that I found is that it's summertime

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is a great time to be here. This is a

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this is a winter destination.

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Yeah, it's the best that the summer is kind of

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the best kept secret about Park City. That's that's what

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we've found for sure.

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But how long is the golf season here?

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This past year we opened up in the middle of March,

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which is the earliest opening in Park Meadows Country Club history.

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Generally speaking, it's from May to mid October. Like I said,

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this year, we opened up a little bit earlier, and

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we'll play golf until the weather dictates that we close.

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And basically that means it's snowing.

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Correct, Correct.

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There is there a lot of golf opportunities here in

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Park City.

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There are there are a few private clubs here. You know,

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you have Glen Wilde, Victory Ranch, Promontory to Hay, but

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none are quite centralized in town like Park Meadows is.

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And it's got a very active membership, our social membership.

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It's very easy for the members to find a game,

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and it's got a great membership.

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Yeah, give me a little history about Park Meadows Park Medals.

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It opened in nineteen eighty three. When it first opened,

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it was a public golf course used to host the

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Franklin Templeton Shootout, which was a senior PGA event, and

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the likes of Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer Lee Trevino used

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to walk these grounds, which is pretty cool. It became

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private over ten years ago, just over ten years ago,

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and I started here five years ago, so I haven't

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I haven't seen the Senior Tour be around since I've

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been here, but I've heard great things about when it.

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Was here and who is the architect of this course?

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This is a Jack Nicholas design, it is. Yeah, it's

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actually a Jack Nicholas signature design, meaning it's one of

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his first few clubs that he did. So it's very

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traditional layout, park style, very player friendly. There's just over

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one hundred bunkers, so it's not like the new traditional

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Jack Nicholas course that's really it can be a little

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more difficult, tricked out a little bit with you know,

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elevation change and some crazy bunkering. It's it's a very

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playable golf course.

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Was there a major change in I don't know if

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you're a student of Jack Nichol's design, but was there

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a major change in his development of designing golf courses.

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Definitely, like I said, his signature golf courses or which

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you know, the first one hundred to two hundred that

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he did, definitely have more of a traditional layout and

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feel to him as time is dictated as the golf

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you know, as you know golf has become more popular.

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He's you know, I've worked at several Nicholas courses in

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Clinging Desert Mountain in Scottsdale, which has six Jack Nicholas

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golf courses, all of which are very different desert golf courses,

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but much more difficult than you know, Park Meadows is interesting.

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What do you see is a big difference between desert

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versus here up in the highlands. We're up at over

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seven thousand feet right.

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Correct, Yeah, obviously the ball flies farther, which.

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Is I'll get to that, But I meant like, what's

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the difference in his design being down to the desert

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versus his design up here?

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And no, I think he's a great architect. I think

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he takes the lay of the land and doesn't try

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to He lets the lay of the land dictate what

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he designs. Park Metals being the location that it is,

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you know, sent you know, pretty local club in town

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club with the mountains surrounding as views. He just kept

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it fairly simple as far as the design, with the

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thought process of being player friendly and letting the views

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be more of the you know, the highlight versus you know,

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elevation change and bunkering and raised greens and things like that.

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So so when we go if we're traveling around and

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we're going to a course we've not played before, and

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it says that it's a Jack Nicholas design, what are

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the things that we know that we're going to be

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getting involved with as far as playability, bunkering, you know,

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the deception that he creates in in par threes, you know, putting.

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Jack Nicholas's owned for designing golf course Jack Nicoll. Nicholas

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was a left or right player who was a fighter

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of the golf ball. Generally, his designs follow suit. As

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time has come, you know, as we've gotten into the

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this day and age, he's become you know, changing that

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up a little bit. But as you'll see today when

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you play Park Medals, is just pretty straightforward, not too

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tricked out, and very well manicured.

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Is there are a lot of back to Park City golf.

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You talked about the private clubs that are here. Is

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there a lot of public courses to play when you're

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here as well? Because obviously the listeners can't when they

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come to Park City. They can't give you a call

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and say, hey, I heard you on the podcast. Can

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I play golf there? Sorry, no, you can't.

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Right, there is a Park City Municipal course. It's that's

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just what it's called, Park City Municipal recent club that's

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been added to the public courses in Park City is

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the Canyons Golf Course. I haven't a chance to play yet,

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but good things. But in the surrounding area. The public

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golf in Utah is very strong, some really good quality

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courses in the surrounding area, but in Park City proper,

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just the two Park City and the Canyons.

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Have you played the MUNI?

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I have quite a bit. It's fun, you know. It's

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a little more crowded, and obviously being one of the

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only public courses, there's a lot of demand for that

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with the tourism in Park City. But it's a good

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golf course. I like it.

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I played nine holes. Like what I've been doing since

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I've been here. I would get up early in the

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morning and go to the driving range and hit one

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hundred balls or something because I'm working on some new

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swing things, so I wanted to just it was a

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great opportunity to do this daily which I don't get

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to do is go to the driving range daily. And

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I ended up playing nine holes just before the rain

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hit a couple of days ago, and I was kind

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of blown away on two things. First of all, I

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played nine holes, rented a car, hit a bucket of balls,

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and it cost me less than twenty five dollars. That

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was amazing, right, But it really was one of the

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prettier munis I've ever seen.

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Yeah, it's very scenic, and again that's just Park City.

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I mean it's hard to go anywhere in Park City

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and not notice the surroundings, the mountains, how green it is.

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You know, you can you can just get in your

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car and drive anywhere in Park City and you're going

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to see, you know, some great scenery. And you know,

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obviously a golf course is no better place than being

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on a golf course to do that.

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Yeah. Yeah, but but it definitely is the kind of

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course there that you needed some local knowledge. I was

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lucky though. I was playing with these guys that knew

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the course, and a couple of times they forgot to

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tell me there was water there, so I lost my ball. Sure,

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but I mean that was those are my big mistakes

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is like not knowing there was water there and I

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hid it.

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Yeah, it's got it's got some tricky things to it

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if you haven't played it too much. Yeah, whereas you

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know Park Meadows, I mean it's it's right in front

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of you. There's there's really no trickery to it. What

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you see is what you get pretty much.

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And the elevation here, so and you're even higher here

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at Park Meadows. Correct in Park City? How much higher

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are you are?

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We are about a thousand feet higher. We're seven thousand

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feet here, and that does a lot to your golf ball.

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Yeah, let's talk about that, does it really?

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Yeah, it's a good club club and a half different.

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You know, for example, I came from Scottsdale, Arizona, and

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there's a big difference here. You know, it's dry heat sure,

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yeah right, it's still one hundred and ten, but seven

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thousand feet the climate's great. There's generally a cool breeze here.

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You know, it's kind of traditionally a little breezy in

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Park City, I found. But seven thousand feet, you know

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you're pitching wedge. If you hit a pitching wedge, for example,

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at sea level, you know, one hundred and thirty yards

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or one hundred and twenty yards up here, it's you know,

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ten to fifteen yards farther up here, no question about it. Okay,

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So it takes a little adjusting in your golf game,

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you know, if you live here, getting used to hitting

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your club's far other than if you live somewhere else

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in the wintertime, for example. Yeah.

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Yeah, And what about the winds? How much of impact

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do the winds come into play here?

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it's generally you know, fairly breezy. Park Meadows is kind

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of an open air meadow golf course. It's there's really

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no nothing surrounding it that can block the wind. So

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the wind, the wind can't pick up. And that's the

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defense of park Park Meadows. It can play as easy

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as you want to, depending on the tea you play,

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but if you get out there, you know, in a

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ten twenty mile an hour wind, it changes the dynamic

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of the golf course completely and just makes it tougher

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like it would anywhere. But it goes from being kind

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of a you know, a fun fair fairly playable and

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you know, not overly challenging tests to very difficult golf

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course in the wind.

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One of the things on the website that kind of

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jumped out at me is talked about it being a

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Scottish Links at seven thousand feet correct.

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Yeah, Like I said, it's it's very It's pretty flat,

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with the exception of the eleventh and twelfth hole. There's

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some elevation there, but it does have a very lynxy feel.

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Most every green out here gives you the option to

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run the ball up onto the green versus fly it

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to the pin. There's some unique bunkering, but every green

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gives you opportunity to run the ball up, which is

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a traditional Link style.

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Yeah, but if you fly it to the green, is

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it going to hit and then just roll off?

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It depends. The greens here this year have been in

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my five years, they're the best they've ever been. They're

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consistently running on the stepman or anywhere from eleven to thirteen,

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which is you know, tour average is twelve twelve point five.

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That's pretty fast, which you know, again, they're fairly flat,

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with the exception of a few greens, so they're very fair.

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But they can be they can be firm, which is

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for this membership, which is a little bit older of

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a membership. They need to be able to run the

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ball in. They're not hitting it as high, which is

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being a links course, it plays, you know, plays right

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into that And.

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Does that also mean by being a links course that

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you've rarely going to have the ball level with your feet.

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You have a lot of you know, uphill and downhill.

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There's very little elevation change here, but it does have

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kind of a rolling feel to it more times than not.

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Though you have a nice, fairly flat lie, very rarely

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will you find yourself on a severe downhill uphill lie

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unless you've hit it off line into the rough, which

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has some some bunkering and some movement to it.

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I come from northern California where we're having a huge

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water issue rure. Now we are still in the Western US.

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What's happening here as far as your water shortage and

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how you're dealing with it.

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We've been We've been fortunate here at the here in

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Park City. You know, obviously we have a perfect climate

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for growing grass. And this past May was the wettest

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you know, we had a lot of rain in May.

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It was the wettest May in the history of Park City. Wow,

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which really tied us up this summer for great golf conditions.

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And we've had our summer storms, our typical summer storms

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in June and July, and the golf course has never

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been in better shape. For superintendent, our superintendent John Hayes,

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does you know some some great things to maintain this

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facility and you know the water. If you were to

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step out and go look at the golf course, you

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you'd you'd think it's as great it couldn't be any greener.

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Wow. Well, I'm excited. Yeah, I can't wait to get

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out there. Recently though, if I understand correctly, Park Meadows

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Country Club has have new management is correct.

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We have recently partnered and are now being managed by

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stein Erickson Lodge. It's been a great partnership. It's been

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going on for the past few months here and so far,

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so good. It's been. It's been a real asset to

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partner up with such a high qualities UH management company

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five star, the only five star hotel management company in Utah,

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and we're really enjoying it. The members are seeing a

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lot of upgrades and quality, you know, upgrades and service,

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upgrading food and beverage, and it's just been a great,

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great situation for the members and the staff so far.

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Oh that's great. And stein Erickson is not the same

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property that the lodge is, correct.

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It's off site. It's it's up and up and you know,

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up in near der Valley Ski Resort. But you know,

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it's like I said, you know, Park Meadows Country Club

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is centralized club versus some of the Park City clubs

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that are out on the outskirts of town. So it's

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it's a ten minute drive at most from here and.

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Stein Erikson Lodge. Again, it's completely associated with winter sports,

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in winter activities.

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Correct. Well now well now they have of course to

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partner up with so it's a it's twofold for them. Again.

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When I first moved here five years ago, it was

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clear to me that people were here and moving to

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Park City for the snow and what you know, people

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call the best snow, the best powder in the United States, the.

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Greatest snow on earth the license plate. Yeah.

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But as I've quickly learned, even just myself, that the

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summers are you know some some you know some very

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active mountain biking, hiking, running, fishing, and obviously the golf

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is second to none. And for stein Erickson to be

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able to offer. You know, step out of the hotel

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and you're on the ski resort, you're on the ski

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slopes at Deer Valley, or if you're here in the summer,

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drive down the hill five to ten minutes and you're

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playing golf at Park Meadows. It's a great partnership. Yeah, congratulations,

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we're excited. Well, and you're still here. I'm still here,

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so that's good. They kept you.

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Congratulations. Give me a little bit about your history. You

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talked about Arizona a bit, but how did you get

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to here? What was your path?

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Fascinated my wife and I who My wife does the

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buying and the merchandising and the golf shop here. We've

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been here together with our seven year old daughter for

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five years. We moved here. Just prior to being in

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Park City and Park Meadows Country Club, we were at

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the Rim Golf Club in Pacing Areas as the director

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of golf, which is the Rim Club in Payson is

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about an hour and a half northeast of Phoenix, and

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we spent we spent three years there until this job

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came open and we couldn't turn it down. Prior to

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being at the the Rim Club. I spent you know,

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multiple years at the Astance Club in Scottsdale, which is

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a top one hundred private club. Spent three years at

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Desert Mountain, and also three years at Forest Highlands and Flagstaff, Arizona.

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So my my career path has been to be a

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head professional at a top private club, obviously in a

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good geographical area that's good for family and raising a

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family and enjoying life, you know, outside of being a

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golf pro in Park City and Park Meadows. Have I

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have offered that to a team.

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Well, yeah, there's so much golf all year round in Scottsdale,

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Arizona and Phoenix and the whole in flags Have Well,

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flag Staff doesn't get year round golf.

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No, flag Staff is like city. Yeah, it's it's snowed,

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they ski and it snows there. But you know, it's

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a two hour drive up the hill from Scottsdale. So

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pretty popular place for Phoenix Scottsdale residents, right.

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Right, And how's quality of life for you now with

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a little kid? Sure, you know daughter, And how does

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the quality of life Park City work for you? You're in Utah, buddy.

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Yeah, it was a little bit of an adjustment coming

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to Utah. We had we had never been here other

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than maybe flying through Salt Lake. But when I first

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came to Park City, you know, you, I had this

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impression that I was going to fly into Salt Lake

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and it was going to be this this big trek

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through this major canyon, and it's going to be a

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long way to go. It turns out it's twenty five

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to thirty minutes from from door to door airport to

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to Park City, and it's it's really really seamless. Quality

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of life in Park City a second to none. I mean,

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it's a very healthy, active community. There's a lot of.

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Kids, young families, young families.

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It's been great for us. It's great, so quality of

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life couldn't be better. We really love it here.

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I was so surprised how quickly we got to Park City.

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When we left the Salt Lake Airport, I was like, wait,

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I thought I was gonna be driving for like an

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hour hour and a half.

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Yeah, that's exactly what I thought too. It's kind of

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boom boom, you just kind of you get on the freeway,

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so you're at the canyon. You know, obviously in the

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winter time, depending on the weather, but they do a

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great job of maintaining the roads. It's I haven't had

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a problem getting around Park City at all.

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Well, so what do you do as a golf professional

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here in the off season when it's snowing.

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Well, obviously when it gets to November, December and the

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holiday season. Being the head professional Park Medals affords me

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to spend some time and travel with family. But at

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the same time, you know, we keep the golf shop

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open a few days a week throughout the winter. We

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have an indoor golf simulator, indoor full Swing. It's called

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full Swing Golf, really advanced, high tech indoor simulator that

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our members lessons and utilize. If the snow's good, you

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don't see people around who are too much using it.

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But if the snow's not too good for some reason,

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on a particular day, we usually fill that up. People

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will come hit some balls or take a lesson and

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just so that they're keeping keeping their golf games fresh,

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and I do the same with mine.

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Okay, aws, your game these days, it's really good, really good.

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I was fortunate enough a week ago to have my

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fourth hole in one.

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Oh wow, congratulations, thank you.

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It was here at Park Medals and whole number four,

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So it just kind of came out of nowhere.

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But well, they always do, don't they they do, they do.

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It was exciting though it was I was playing with

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some of my staff and.

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Oh, you get to do it in front of your staff,

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So you know that's the key. You don't want to

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be alone when you get your hole in one, and

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you don't want to do it on an elevated t

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because then you don't know when any right, No.

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This happened on whole number four. It's pretty difficult two

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hundred and ten yard part three, and we all saw

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it kind of hit the middle of the green and

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just kind of rolled in like a putt, and we

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saw it from start to finish.

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Fourth hole in one. I mean, I've talked. I've talked

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to a lot of instructors who've been playing for their

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whole lives and still have yet to get one.

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Yeah, it's you know, I don't know, there's a lot

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of luck involved. And the last two I had were

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in Arizona at my last club and my first one

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when I was fifteen years old and Davis, California, were

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playing with my dad, And you know that's even better.

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Exciting you in front of your dad. Yep, so yep,

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number four.

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Okay, So what's the secret.

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The secret is stop trying to make hold ones and

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just play golf, and you know, try to put your

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ball in the right place. And if you're thinking about

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hitting a hole in one all the time, it's never

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going to happen. So you know, these tour players, you know,

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they're they're trying to make a score and you're just

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trying to do the best you can on any given hole.

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And if you hit a good shot and it happens

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that the break goes your way, it's just there's definitely

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some luck involved. It's a pretty small cup to hit

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that little ball into.

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I interviewed an instructor who wrote a book and one

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of his chapters was how to get a hole in one? Yeah,

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and exactly. That was my reaction to, what did you

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say to do? And I'm like, wait a minute, you

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really wrote a chat after on how to get it?

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He goes, oh, absolutely. I said, well, how can you

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honestly tell people? He goes, Just focus on the bottom

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of the cup, just just you know, it's about confidence,

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is all golf is. Just focus on the bottom of

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the cup and you can do it. I'm like, yeah, right, sure.

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Three days later after we published the show, I got

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an email from a listener going I listened to the show,

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I went out, I got my first hole in once.

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It's like, yeah, I got one email. Wisha was not

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easy exactly exactly I wanted to Obviously number four is

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going to be your favorite hole here, but I wanted

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to talk a little bit more about some of the

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holes pick some of the favorite holes here. But I

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needed to ask you about now that the stein Erickson

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management team has taken over here, has that impacted you

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in a positive way? As far as you know, you

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always get nervous when new management comes in. Budgets going

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to start getting slashed and things are going to get cut,

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and you know, maybe sometimes you get lucky and you

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can get some new equipment going. And sure, how has

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that helped you?

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You know, golf course wise, as far as the actual

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maintain the golf course. The golf course is in fantastic shape.

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Like I said, so, John Haynes's a budget line. John

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Haynes are superintendent. As long as he keeps doing what

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he's doing, you know, I can only see stein Erickson

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given affording him every opportunity to provide him the resources

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to keep doing you know what he needs, whether it

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be staff or a new a new mower, something like that.

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For me in the golf shop, same thing. Sure, there

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was some uncertainty about coming into a new management group.

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There always is, I think in any merger. But this,

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like I said before, it's been seamless. It's been nothing

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but positives for both the staff and the membership. And

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they're just elevating the service and the quality of the

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food and and and every and all aspects of the

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club from the golf course to the to the dining,

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to the to the golf shop.

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And this is a pretty high end club. It is not.

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It is. It's a it's a private club that there's

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a diverse membership with a lot of a lot of

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our members live and have second homes in Arizona or Vegas, California,

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even some in New York and they travel out here.

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But we also have people that live here and work

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five days a week in Salt Lake and they live

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in Park City, or they live in Salt Lake and

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they drive up the hill to play golf.

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Wow. So wow, all right, let's talk about this golf

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course for a couple of minutes that we have left.

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What let's I want to get some playing advice from you? Sure,

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since I'm gonna go out here, let's we talked about

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how you know you're going to get more yardage than

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I'm that I'm used to playing at sea level. Let's

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pick your favorite Well, I'll go, I'll throw the softball

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YouTube of your favorite part three?

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Well, favorite part three today? This whole number four, because

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I just had a whole in one there. It's a

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it's a long, you know, two hundred and ten yard

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part four with a water on the left, and generally

469
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.599
it's kind of an one of the more exposed holes

470
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.359
on the golf course. There's usually some win kind of

471
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.640
coming through there. But all the part threes here are fantastic.

472
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:11.839
Between four seven is a good par three, but honestly,

473
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.519
number twelve is the most scenic spot on the golf course.

474
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.319
It's a downhill par three. It's about depending on which

475
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.079
tea you're playing, it can be one hundred and fifty

476
00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.880
to two hundred and ten yards and it's a great

477
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:24.480
view of Park City Mountain Resort.

478
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:26.839
These distances you're giving me here from the back teas,

479
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.000
I'm sure the two ten is good because that's not

480
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.160
where I'm playing from now.

481
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.559
That's a nice thing. That's another nice thing about Park

482
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:37.119
Meadows is there's a tea for everybody. So you know,

483
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.440
one of the big initiatives in PGA and play it

484
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.880
forward USGA these days is grow the game and play

485
00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.119
it forward. So more and more members are enjoying themselves

486
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:50.640
playing you know, a tee up versus what they played

487
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.720
maybe in the last ten years, five to ten years.

488
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:56.319
They're just seeing better scores and just enjoying the game better.

489
00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:59.519
And you know, as I alluded to earlier, Park Meadows

490
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:01.359
is now of golf courses that that is going to

491
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:04.279
beat you up. And if you put yourself on the property,

492
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:09.359
like I said, whole twelve is a fantastic eleven, twelve

493
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:11.839
and thirteen is the is the best stretch of holes

494
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.480
that I've ever played. You got some you got a

495
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:16.880
unique part four with the split fairway and eleven.

496
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.880
I wanted to ask. I was looking at the flyover

497
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:22.880
videos and and uh, you have a video on they're

498
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:24.599
talking about specifically about that hole.

499
00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:28.240
Yeah, who whole number eleven. The whole number eleven is

500
00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:31.720
a split fairway. You can you can challenge the right

501
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.480
side with the driver, but that brings them out of

502
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.359
bounds into play, or you can hit a fairway wood

503
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.079
or hybrid down the left side, and it's it's you know,

504
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.599
twenty thirty wide yard fairway playing it, playing a space

505
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.039
to drive it and play, and you know for whatever

506
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.839
player you know, handicapped level you are. And then you

507
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.480
get to hold twelve, which is downhill par three that

508
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:55.400
has a kind of a tricky green and again you're

509
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:59.599
an exposed area with some wind generally, so picking a

510
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:04.119
club that can be very difficult. What do you advise, Well,

511
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.799
you know, whatever the t you're playing, Suppose you're playing

512
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.279
one hundred and sixty yard te I take ten yards

513
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.559
off of that because it's downhill. And then depending on

514
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.759
the wind, if it's down I take a little less club.

515
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.039
If the wind's into me, I'll generally just offset that

516
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:22.160
wind with the with the elevation. Okay, so that's how

517
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.920
I pick a club. But again a lot of times it's,

518
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.160
you know, it's kind of a hit and hope type

519
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:29.480
of thing because you don't know what the ball is

520
00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.240
going to do in the wind and coming down that hill.

521
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.880
And then there's thirteen Part four, very link style, whole

522
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.400
native high grass on both sides with some unique bunkering

523
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.240
and a great, you know, kidney shaped green left to right,

524
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.880
not a very deep green that's perched up a little

525
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.680
bit and well bunkered. One of the best holes on

526
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:50.680
the golf course by far.

527
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:51.519
That's your favorite.

528
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.880
Part four thirteen is definitely my favorite Part four.

529
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:55.960
There are a lot of chances to lose balls here,

530
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:57.799
I mean, people when you.

531
00:25:57.720 --> 00:25:59.759
Have to hit it off line to lose a ball here.

532
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.960
We do have a few water holes that can eat

533
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.119
up a ball fairly easy, two or three water holes,

534
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.039
but overall, you'd really have to hit it offline to

535
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.839
lose a ball, depending on the time of the year,

536
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.839
you know, early in the summer, just after those rains

537
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.720
and June and July. Of the native grass to the

538
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.000
side of the rough and fairway, we're very lush and thick,

539
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.440
and if you did hit it, you know, way offline,

540
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:24.799
you could get in there and have a hard time

541
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:29.480
finding a ball. But generally it's pretty hard to lose

542
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:30.200
a ball here.

543
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.519
Good I didn't bring that many because only couple.

544
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.359
Hopefully hopefully you only need You're only gonna need one.

545
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:39.720
Hopefully, I'll have another one in my pocket always. I

546
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:41.880
actually have asked about that. I had a teacher once

547
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.240
tell me about you know, I said, oh, I always

548
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.640
keep you know, two balls with me, one might pocket

549
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:47.319
and the one I'm playing. And he goes, oh, no,

550
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.359
I tell my students, never do that. Always have just

551
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.640
one ball. Why give yourself the option that you're going

552
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:53.279
to lose the ball.

553
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.359
I agree with that. Just stick with the one. You

554
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.759
don't want to have that mentality that you're what if

555
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.440
I lose this? What if you want to be thinking

556
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:00.160
I'm not losing this.

557
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.559
Okay, Yeah, positive thinking. I tell them about your favorite

558
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:05.000
part five.

559
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:10.440
Favorite part five, definitely, I would say, is whole seventeen.

560
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.680
It's coming towards the end of the round. Obviously it's

561
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.880
fairly reachable, very reachable Par five, especially for the longer hitters.

562
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.400
To forge you the ability to hit an iron into

563
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.720
that green. But again, there's some water and there's some

564
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.279
very unique bunkering that starts about sixty yards from the

565
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.720
green that should you miss a shot, you'll definitely be penalized. However,

566
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.519
if you do hit two good shots, you should be

567
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:34.720
walking away with a birdie, no.

568
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.880
Question, but a risk reward. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and playing

569
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.279
it safe, trying to you know.

570
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.000
Yeah, it's a very fair fairway. It's a very wide fairway,

571
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.720
one of the biggest fairways at the club to hit.

572
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.400
It's a nice way to kind of get some momentum

573
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.759
coming into eighteen, which is a long, tough part four,

574
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.359
to maybe sneak into one last BIRDI before you finish the.

575
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.400
Round, long part four and eighteen.

576
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:03.119
Good finishing hold, yeah, good, yeah, very good finishing hole. Long, tough,

577
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.319
big green, and you know there's some out of bounds

578
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:07.400
on both sides of the fairway.

579
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.400
So of the holes that you've talked about so far,

580
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.640
you got eleven, twelve, thirteen, four to seven, eighteen, the

581
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:19.920
one they talk about on on the website that was

582
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.599
voted as one of the best holes in a reader's

583
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.920
polls number fifteen fifteen.

584
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:29.640
Yes, I miss fifteen, but I'll bring it up. That hole.

585
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.160
I happen to like it. I think a lot of

586
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.039
the longer hitters are the lower handicapped players have a

587
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.599
different perspective of that hole. But for the higher handicappers,

588
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.240
which is most of our membership here, there's a creek

589
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.519
that runs throughout the entire hole out of bounds left,

590
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.000
out of bounds right, So there's kind of danger around

591
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.400
every corner. And just when you think you hit two

592
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.720
good shots down to get to the green, now you

593
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.000
have to hit over the water to a very small green,

594
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.480
and depending on where the pin is, it can be

595
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.880
one of the toughest shots that Park Metals throws at you.

596
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.559
So it's kind of from start to finish it it

597
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.799
has water, it has out of bounds all the way,

598
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.920
and you add a little wind to that. It can

599
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.359
be very difficult. But you know, for the longer hitters,

600
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.640
they can reach that green in two and maybe make

601
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:15.799
a birdy possibly an eagle.

602
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.000
Are most of the greens here you want to just

603
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:19.519
fire at the center of the green and get it

604
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.559
on there, or you advise there are some holes that

605
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.279
just like go after the pin. Obviously placement's going.

606
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:28.000
To be Yeah, I think I think overall center. You know,

607
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.119
if you can get the ball in the middle of

608
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:30.759
the green here, you can shoot a good score here.

609
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:33.240
It gives you a good chance, no matter where the

610
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.279
pin is, to at least make a two put. Again,

611
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.119
you know, depending on what kind of club you're hitting

612
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.839
into the green, I would let that dictate your aggressiveness.

613
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.039
If you're able to get a wedge of nine iron

614
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.920
or eight iron. It is the kind of golf course

615
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.640
that you can go green light at the pin. But

616
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:51.119
if you're hitting your hype. You know, if you're not

617
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.200
hitting your driver well and you're hitting longer clubs into

618
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.240
the green again, I'd be running it up to try

619
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:57.599
to get it on. Just get it on the green

620
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:58.720
or the middle of the green for sure.

621
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.160
Awesome. All right, we're gonna we're gonna wrap this up

622
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.000
fairly quickly and then I'm gonna make some announcements and

623
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.160
get a tip from you. We'll go outside and shoot

624
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.079
a little video as well. Sounds a tip, but I

625
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.640
would like to get from you if you can remember this,

626
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.480
you can think back, not as an instructor, but as

627
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.720
a golfer. What's the best piece of advice you've ever

628
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:24.359
received about being a golfer? Or maybe from another teacher.

629
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.240
No, I think the best piece of advice I've got

630
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:31.279
regarding the game of golf was from a from a

631
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.039
former pro that I work for in Arizona. And that's

632
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:37.559
that's to not take the game too seriously and enjoy

633
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.440
it and have fun. And I will never forget. He

634
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.000
told me that, you know, when you're when you're playing golf,

635
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.119
you gotta you gotta care, but just not too much.

636
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.000
And that stuck with me from from the moment I

637
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.440
heard that, because you think about it, you got everybody

638
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.480
wants to play good and everybody wants to hit good shots.

639
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.480
But if you if you let that overwhelm you with

640
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.160
your your four hours on the golf course, it can

641
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.519
be rather draining and you you lose that, You lose

642
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:05.039
the the idea of camaraderie and who you're playing with

643
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.279
and the scenery and what the game is all about

644
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.880
is getting outdoors and enjoying, you know, and just enjoying

645
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.400
yourself and letting go.

646
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.440
Yeah. Yeah. One of the instructors that we've had on

647
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.519
frequently got named Jim Waldron out of Oregon and Hawaii.

648
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:23.640
He said, the key to putting, the two keys to

649
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:28.240
putting are confidence and positive indifference. I like it, and

650
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.119
so it kind of falls into don't take it seriously

651
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.240
positive a difference. It's like, what think about it for

652
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.519
a minute and it makes total sense. All right. Now,

653
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.680
tell me the best advice you've ever received as an instructor, The.

654
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:49.440
Best advice as that I've ever received as instructor, or.

655
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.160
If it's too tough, let's make it the best piece

656
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.599
of advice as an instructor that you like to give

657
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:56.880
for this guy kind.

658
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.359
Of falls back into what I just alluded to there,

659
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.680
is that, you know, I try to keep my teaching simple,

660
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.079
you know, as far as mechanics and the basics of

661
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.880
the game and not get too technical. And again try

662
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.559
to you know, because a lot of these people that

663
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.240
want to take lessons, they have this hardcore desire to

664
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.680
hone the skill and perfect it, and that can be

665
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.119
very taxing on your enjoyment of the game. You know,

666
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.720
you still have to be able to walk away from

667
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.599
the lesson te So I try to keep it simple

668
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.799
and tell my students to have fun with it, to

669
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.200
when they finish a lesson, to do some work and

670
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.200
to work on it, but go out in the evenings

671
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.359
in the mornings and just you play your golf and

672
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.440
enjoy it. You know, the best advice I could give

673
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.920
is is enjoy the people you're around and just have

674
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:41.640
fun doing it.

675
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.240
Now, we're going to take Bobby outside to the putting

676
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.319
green and get a tip from him on how to

677
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.039
keep your putting stroke consistent to get better distance control.

678
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.319
All right, now, let's go out to the practice putting

679
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.519
groom with Bobby Trounso, head golf professional with Park Meadows

680
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.960
Country Club and get a tip on how to better

681
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.240
control our lag futting distance.

682
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.640
Obviously, having a good line and making it in the

683
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.799
hole is important, but if your speed is off, you'll

684
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.880
never have a chance. THEIKDA good maintaining good speed in

685
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.640
the pighting green is having a backswing that's the same

686
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.319
length as the follow through. We don't want to get

687
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.079
a stroke that has a backswing this far or follow

688
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:21.160
through here, or vice versa. A short backswing and a

689
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.160
big follow through that leads to really inconsistent speed on

690
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:26.839
the green. The reason being is if you have a

691
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.920
backswing that's too long and a follow through that's too long,

692
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.319
or vice versa, your speed will never be consistent and

693
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.039
you'll find yourself three or four putting most of the time.

694
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:40.599
I'll hit one here as a demonstration. Again, Nikeda good

695
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.759
lag putting or speed putting, especially when you're outside ten,

696
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.480
ten twelve feet you're just trying to get the ball close.

697
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.839
Nikey to speed is maintaining a pendulum type stroke that

698
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:51.960
has the same amount of backswing as followed through