May 12, 2026

Inside the Swing with Bradley Hughes

Inside the Swing with Bradley Hughes
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Bradley Hughes joins host Josh Karp to explain why copying Ben Hogan’s poses misses the point—real power comes from pressure and post-impact forces. Hughes shows how ground pressure, an “inside” delivery path, and drills like the impact bag can turn slices into draws. He also shares simple fixes like the “7-5-2” pressure setup to help amateurs stop posing and start playing.

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I'd basically have a one hundred percent success rate, Like

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no one gets worse, they all get better. Talking about

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your boat, I had a seventy I think he's seventy

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two years old when I started working with him, and

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he thought, you know, he loved golf, but he thought,

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this is it. I'm sixteen handicapped, I've lost it. I'm

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never going to get good again. Within eight months, he

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would back down to a seven. And it wasn't from

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any magic stuff. It was providing the forces on the

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ball that the golf ball likes.

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So today I'm talking to Bradley Hughes about Bun Hogan,

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Sam Snead and teaching a different way of teaching the

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golf swing. Bradley, thank you for taking the time to

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do this. I'm glad you're here.

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Yep, You're welcome. Looking forward to it.

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So I just read an article that you wrote. I

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know you wrote a book about Hogan, but talking about

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people trying to swing like Hogan, can you just talk

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a little bit about you know, Hogan swing and why

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it is so incredibly difficult for I think you said

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like nobody is really actually capable of doing it, at

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least you know an amateurs talk a little bit about that,

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and you know, tell us, you know your impressions of

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people trying to use Hogan swing.

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Well, I think it's possible.

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But you've got to understand that when people diagnose Hogan's swing,

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there's some footage, you know, probably not great footage of

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his swing. You know, in action, there's a little bit around,

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certainly not high definition, certainly not slowed down enough that

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you can really pinpoint a lot of things. So most

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Hogan swing thoughts are based off still photographs.

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Pictures of Hogan. Now you've got to remember.

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That a picture is just a spot in the swing.

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There's something that came before it, and there's something that's

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going to come after. So when you see a picture,

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a lot of people try and pose that picture. They

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try and get in that position. And whereas that position

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is something, like I said, that's already happened and something

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that is going to happen.

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So you can kind of.

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Put it down to still photographs or a moment in time,

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and they're not just a moment, they're not just what

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you see. I think a lot of people, you know,

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Hogan had the big angle coming down a.

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Lot of lag as he would call it.

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There is a jury out some He talked about having

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a cup wrist, and a lot of people try and

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say that he had a bow risk. But again that

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relates back to the still photo because basically, when you

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are coming down with a cupped wrists and you're releasing

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your forearms like he I believe he did, he puts

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force in and that cup now starts to flat.

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Now that becomes more of a bow, but.

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It's more of a achieved by force rather than achieved

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by trying to do it.

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So that's why a lot of people have trouble.

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You know, obviously he has a he had this big

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long back swing whether his hands, you know, the club

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was way down his back and everything.

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People try and do that.

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And there's there's you've got to remember, you know, even

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though there's you know, he talked about in the one

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of those Golf Life magazine I think it was, he

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came out with his secret, as he.

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Called it, right, multiple secrets for it.

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Last time I checked, he had like twenty five different

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secrets and they all blend in together. You know, he

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had an extra spike in his right shoe. He he

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talked about the you know, the way he fell in transition,

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he went into a straight or right leg, and as

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he pushed into that leg, he kind of fell laterally.

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Now people are teaching that, but they're not teaching it

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the way he did it. They're basically doing a bent

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right leg and then trying to get everyone to get

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over there like he did. So there's a lot of formation,

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not without good intention. You know, you can only he

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can only teach what you know.

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And I did a.

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Big study after I stopped playing golf in two thousand

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and eight. And I will say that in my golf career,

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even though I didn't win as many tournaments, I would

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have liked my short game one and as great as

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it could have been. But I was always recognized as

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a good ball striker, and so I had the inside information.

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Maybe I didn't know what I was doing at the

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time to be able to do it, to be able

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to say what I was doing. But when I started teaching,

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I went deep dive into a lot of different swings

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my swing. Obviously Hogan swings sneed swing, but I also

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went into swings that weren't popular, like an Arnold Palmer

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swing or there was a guy in Australia called Peter

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senior used to win every second or third tournament. He

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had an ungainly looking swing. So I kind of tried

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to look at what these not so good swings or

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not revered swings, what they were doing that made them

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so good, And the similarities were pretty much as there

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was certain components that they did in their swing that

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even though they all look different and we should look

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different because they're all different sizes and shapes and builds

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strengths in different areas. You know, I base stance with

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off my shouldered with for different clubs, so my shoulders

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might be bigger than someone else's. We're all going to

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look different. So I think that's one of the good

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things I've never done is if you get a lesson

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off me, you're never going to see me.

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Put Adam Scott on the.

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Other side of the screen and say, now look, Adam

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Scott's here and you're doing this. You should Well, you

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can't do that because everyone's different. But basically think I

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I'm not sure where it is on one of my websites,

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but I do have a comparison of myself and Ben Hogan,

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and it's almost identical, Like it's really really close to identical. Now,

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having said that, it's from the top of the swing

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to the finish, it's not my back swing. My back

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swing was very different to his, but we did almost

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the identical same weight shit, the load of the club,

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that the arm release, the body overtaken, all these different things.

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So from that standpoint, I think.

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I have a pretty good grasp on what he did

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because I'm not guessing. I'm actually basing it off something

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I can do, and I've taught people how to not

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hundred percent again look like Hogan, but create the dynamics

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that he did. It's the important thing because the golf

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ball doesn't really care what your swing looks like. It

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cares about the dynamics that are put on the ball

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because the ball can't make.

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Up it's mine.

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Say hey, Josh, I'm just going to hit it over

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there because you're hitting the ball. You can't do that.

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It's got to do what you tell it to do.

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So how you know, are you obviously like you know

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you're playing, I mean, you were a terrific ball striker.

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How did you develop you know your swing? Did you

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have a teacher or did you were you kind of

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self taught or how did you you know? Kind of

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come about your swing.

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I was very much self taught, but I was a

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good imitator. So I was very very good at Australian

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rules football. If anyone's ever watched that game, I got

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signed to play that when I was fifteen, I got

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signed to play pro. In that I could play cricket,

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I could do the beanbag toss like I can do

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most sports. And it's not because I'm more talented than someone.

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I think I was very observant, Like I could see.

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I could see things that were happening, Like even to

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this day, if I kicked the football up in the air,

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you know, twenty yards in the air, I could tell

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within ten foot of it touch in the ground or

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hitting the ground which way it was going to bounce,

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because I could tell by the spiral of I can

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see kind of the things behind what you're seeing. And

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I think that's what really helped me with a golf swing,

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in that I could see things that were happening, but

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I wasn't putting that down to what I was actually seeing.

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I could base both sides of that story or that

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photograph what was going on. And I also did have

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the tremendous opportunity when I was very young, like twelve

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years old. I first met Greg Norman and he'd let

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me walk around practice rounds with him. So I would

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walk around the practice round with him, watch him, him

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and his caddy and me, Like there was no one

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else watching because it was early and no one. No

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one went to practice rounds back in that day. They

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just went to view the tournament. So I walk around,

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I would watch him, I would ask him questions. I

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would you know, get some observations off him, what he felt,

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what he thought he was doing.

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And then at the end of the day, I'd.

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Go back to my golf club and I'd go to

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the range and I'd work on all these things. So

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technically I based my swing off Greg Norman because he

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was aussy god at that time when I.

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Was growing up and getting.

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And it just worked, you know, I had I had

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the right foot slide like Norman had.

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Now, I didn't mean to do it.

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It just happened based on me swinging a golf club

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and using some of the logics that I.

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Kind of saw he had talked to me about.

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So that's how my swing was back. So I didn't

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have instruction, but we had a coach for our state team,

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but they didn't do a lot. They kind of just

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kept an eye on things and kind of told you

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how good you were and just said, all right, let's

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go win and things like that. As far as swing philosophies,

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I really had none. I just had Greg Norman. But

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Greg Norman copied off Jack Nicholas, so it was a

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pretty good pedigree, right. And then I also would mess around.

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I'd have a Sevy Bellisteros swing, and I had a

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curt a strange swing and a kind of feel of

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different players. But my home built swing was definitely based

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off Greg Norman. And he was obviously phenomenal golfer and

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striker of the ball. People still talking or about how

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well he drove the ball.

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Oh yeah, no, he was. I mean I remember when

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he was, you know, on top and he was unbelievable

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to watch, I mean, you know, and then hit the

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ball just unbelievably. Now and now I know you you'd

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mentioned somewhere that you know, you you'd kind of and

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you just talked about it, you know, like his footwork

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talk a little bit, you know, just quickly about you

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know what about Norman's you know, we're the things that

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you know, you kind of copy it or that you

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picked up and what was it about, you know, his

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footwork that you thought was you know me, It's all great, so.

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Anyone can go back and watch this. But I'm talking.

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You know Norman in the eighties, probably up to mid nineties,

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he changed his swing a little bit after that he

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got shorter and round her and when he worked with

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Butch haarm and Butch Harmon actually wanted to take that

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footwork away and he kind of succeeded. But now today

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we have Scottie Chefser doing it right. Gary Play used

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to do it, Ben Ogan did it. You know there

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was this, so it's not it's not. And I actually

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laugh at watching people on social media or YouTube trying

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to do the foot slide move because again they're actually

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trying to do it, whereas when I did it, I

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didn't try to it. I didn't even know I did

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it right. He was just a pressure force. I'll tell

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you how it works. I would watch Greg Norman, like

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I said, you watch him back in the He's in

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the early nineties before he took the club away.

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You could physically.

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See himself push himself into the ground, so he was

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building a pressure into the ground, which I think helped

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him coordinate this wide takeaway. So that's what happened to me.

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So when you create a wide takeaway, you created a

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lot of download and you have to really use your

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feet to use that download. You know, most people angles

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are great, but if you can't get rid of them properly,

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they're worthless. You know, they're not worth it. So this

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is what Hogan did as well. They physically pushed themselves

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into the ground. So when the transition came and they

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want to push, because remember if I'm throwing or jumping

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or shooting a basketball, I'm going to push into the

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ground to do that action, so that there is an

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automatic push in the ground. But what people do is

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they don't build enough to start so when that push comes,

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their body sort of jumps up and down, so they

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get the early extension because they've basically gone from no

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pressure to a lot of pressure that the body can't handle.

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So what he did was he set it to begin with,

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and then when he added to it, his brain said,

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don't give that up, like, keep using it, and then

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what happens is when you push into the ground. The

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other thing that I asked him about was how do

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you get that high finish? Because his arms would fly

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almost vertical to the end. He goes, I am on

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the way through, I am pulling my left side. And

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he was adamant that it was his left side. It

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was not his hip, and it was not his shoulder.

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It was his abs and obliques. He was pulling that

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away from impact. And what happened is the extra foot pressure,

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the pushing, pushing, pushing, and never giving that up provided

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the resistance that his left side could pull on the

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through scring. Now, if you think about it, if you're

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still pushing into the ground hard and not jumping away

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yet pushing down push, push, push, so you're not just

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going vertical, you're actually going horizontal as well. Because your

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feet are pushing towards one another. That would be the

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knees getting closer and all that that provides a resistance

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for this left side to pull. Now, if you think

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about it, when the left side's pulling, which direction is

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it pulling?

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B side?

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Okay, so the left side is pulling go ahead.

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Way away and behind you? Yes? Yes, correct?

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So which direction does his right foot go away and

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behind him?

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Okay?

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So he is pulling that foot out of the traction

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in the direction that that pivot.

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Is pulling, So it's a it's a full pressurized reaction.

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It's not trying to do it. So I think I

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saw Patrick Harrington trying to do any fell over and

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miss the ball. I think because he didn't he didn't

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know the pressures. People are just trying to slide their

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foot when it's actually not And if you think about

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cheflets day, his key component is he never hits the

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ball left because his body, his left side, he's pulling

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harder than his hands or arms can do on the

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through swing, so he never crosses the club over, so

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he always hits it straight or cuts it, and that

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means he's pulling hard on his left side to create that,

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and that's why his foot also goes. So it's actually

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very simple to understand, but very hard for people to

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do it. If they don't know that, they're just trying

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to do it rather than it be a reaction like

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the the vapor coming out of a plane, like that's

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just the reaction to all the engines going on the

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air coming in them so forth. So a lot of

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the golf swing is reaction by force. It's not actually

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trying to do something, and that's the way I teach.

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I teach people to understand pressures, force, and a couple

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of main important things like the path four thirty path

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I call it.

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I think that's what all these great players did.

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They had the the club behind them, wristcock, arms rotated

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and the shaft would kind of cut them right across

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the middle of their body. So when they released their arms,

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the club went, the body went with the club and

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the arms, and there was a kind of no flipping.

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Noticed.

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Most of those players all hated missing left. I teach

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one of Arnold Palmer's grandsons, and he came to see

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me because his granddad had hated hitting the left, and

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he talked to him about a lot of things and

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everything that I talk about Arnie told him, so he went.

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He started coming to see me about four or five

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years ago and is playing fantastically well. But he understands

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it because his grandpa actually instilled it in him. So

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that makes me quite happy. That I never met Ben Hogan,

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I never met Sam Snead. Obviously I met Greg Norman,

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but Arnold Palmer had one of the great after impact

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body motions of all time. It was really fun is

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how quickly he spun his left side away from the

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ball after he hit it because he hated going left.

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So obviously he did hit a few left like an

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Olympic when he lost, but he didn't like hitting the left,

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and he was doing everything to hit it hard.

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But not hit it left. And that's kind of.

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I think what all these great players achieve that they

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managed to take one side of the course out of play,

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but not from fear or from guiding or from being

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careful about it. They were still very aggressive, and that's

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built out of strong release foot pressure and then the

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left side, Paul.

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For the average golfer, I'm guessing who comes to see

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you who's not Arnold Palmer's grandson, but who's somebody like

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me who's like a twelve right? Our problem is hitting

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it to the right, correct? I mean, are both people?

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So it's not always, but yes, most most times? Yes?

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Right? I mean that's that's you know, because it's the

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one hitting it. You know, hitting it left is the

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curse of the really good, of the really good golfer,

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and the hitting it right as the curse of the

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average golfer. So what do you you know for somebody

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who when they mishit are hitting it right all the time?

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What you know? What's you know?

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What do you do with somebody like that to help them?

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So I have Once I stopped playing and I started teaching.

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I was not very good at teaching when I started.

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And I say that because I had no real philosophy.

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I didn't really know what I did growing up. Had ideas,

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but I basically taught. And I didn't have golf lessons

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until I was twenty six or so, and I'd already,

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you know, won of Master's and I'd played on the

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President's Cup and all this cool stuff really before it

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had lessons. And there any reason I had a lesson

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or had some lessons was I was going to move

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to America, So I wanted to understand my swing better

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because I was not going to be able to go

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back to my home turf in Melbourne and practice and

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be in a familiar place and familiar company and do

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my routine. I was going to get out of my

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routine by moving to America, where I really didn't know

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hardly anyone. So I wanted to understand my swing. But

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no one could explain my swing because I had the

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very wide backswing like Greg Norman. I had this massive

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angle down, I had the foot sliding, I had the

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high finish. I had all these crazy things going on

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that no one could explain because at that point in time,

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mid nineties were talking ledbetter. He was the man because

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he had Nick Price and he had Nick Feldo. So

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everyone was teaching their methods. Set the club, early, turned

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the shoulders, use the big muscles, all this stuff, and

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that was totally different to what I was doing. So

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my swing got changed, not because I wanted to its

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because no one could explain what I was doing. So

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I got sort of poached into the method of the day.

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So that's where with my teaching, I've had people come

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and they have this great download, like this unbelievable angle

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coming down. One of the guys from Austraya I taught,

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he was he won the British Amateur in twenty ten.

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I think Bridon mcphersony.

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He came in saw me and he goes, I've had

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all these coaches they want to get rid of this angle.

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I go, dude, don't get rid of the angle. I'm

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just going to teach you how to use that angle.

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I want that angle.

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There because it's actually a big bonus for you.

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So now getting back to why you know people slice,

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the first drill that I teach them is I teach

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him to learn to release what I call the four

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thirty path. And to explain that, I always teach from

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the golfer's view. I don't teach from a camera view

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or my view. I always teach it from their perspective,

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so they've got to see down below and understand it

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from their eyes, not from the eyes.

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Of a camera.

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So the four thirty path is, if there was a

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big clock on the ground down in front of them,

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the golfer, the ball would be the middle of the clock,

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and their feet would be at six o'clock and the

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target line would extend from three o'clock to nine o'clock,

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so that three o'clock would be behind them to the right,

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and four thirty would kind of dissect the target line

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and their feet.

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And that's kind of an inside approach, right, That's where

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all the the good players came from.

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So amazingly enough, when I teach people that first drill,

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and it's not just hitting balls to get them to

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get a big impact bag, and they hit the bag,

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they do it one handed and they do it left handed,

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they do it right handed, they do it two handed.

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They get used to releasing the club from that point.

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So just about everyone I've ever done that with on

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a range, you know, just with a little bit of

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drill of stuff, starts hooking the ball. So that's the

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thing that you want, right if you're a slicer, I

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teach you how to hook it, and then what I

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do is the post impact stuff, which is drill three

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that makes the body move faster on the way through,

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like we discussed earlier, and that's kind of like a fade,

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So you kind of hook it into impact and you

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fade it out of impact. And so well, let's call

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the hook in the plus and the fade out a

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negative a plus and a negative equal zero.

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So you start actually getting straight ball flights. But a

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slicer comes negative to negative. Correct.

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They would come from across the three o'clock line and

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exit over there at eight o'clock or seven point thirty,

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and someone that hooks it would basically shift the club

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off way to the right of target line and shut

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the face over and put hookspin on it.

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So there's an opposite Remember I talked.

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About opposite force is an opposite force in that you

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come from the inside, which is your plus sign, you

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exit to the inside, which is your minor sign, and

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they cancel one another out and they go straight. So

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that's why it's so effective, because you've got to turn

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a slicer into a hooker first, and then you breed

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them out of that and get it back to straight.

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And it's very simple. It's work. Obviously, bar who doesn't

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want to get better? If you want to get better,

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I kind of jest with people, but not really in

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that out of thousands and thousands of lessons, by now,

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i'd basically have a one hundred percent success rate, like

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no one gets worse, they.

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All get better.

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Talking about your boat, I had a seventy I think

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he's seventy two years old when I started working with it,

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and he thought, you know, he loved golf, but he thought,

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this is it. I'm sixteen handicapped, I've lost it. I'm

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never going to get good again. Within eight months he

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was back down to a seven. And it wasn't from

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any magic stuff. It was providing the forces on the

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ball that the golf ball likes. And one of the

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big issues with golf instruction is too many people are

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worried about what's behind them. They're all tinkering with their

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backs when they're all trying to come in from a

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certain spot or whatever. And then once they hit the ball,

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they think that's it, all right, the ball's gone off

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the club face, nothing matters. But the after impact has

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a huge effect on the ball because the ball doesn't

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just spit out of a force into entry. It spits

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out of two forces, the entry and the exit. And

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if you can get that to be a plus and

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a minus, probably hopefully at the same speed.

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Because most people are going to.

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Swing harder at a golf ball than harder throw a

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golf ball, I'm teaching them to swing hard in both

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directions so that that ball spits out perfectly straight, and

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if anything, it may have a fade bias because the

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post impact is hopefully stronger than the entry, so they

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don't hit at the ball. And that really makes sense

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to me. That's something that I always did, because when

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I'm setting up to a golf ball, I'm looking down once,

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you know, like the clock, I'm looking straight down at

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the ball. My eyes are in between the middle of

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the clock and six o'clock. But my target is over

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there at nine o'clock. My target's like way me. So

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00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:03.880
why am I interested in? Why do I care about

474
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.079
what's behind me? Because in if I am a shortstop

475
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.839
in baseball, I pick the ball up, where am I looking?

476
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.519
You're looking, You're looking at the guy and the bas

477
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.799
to throw it. If I'm shooting a basket, I'm not

478
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:17.960
thinking what I'm doing back here. I'm looking at the

479
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.759
basket and I'm going to the basket. So golfers somehow

480
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:29.000
managed to get too many people thinking about what's behind

481
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.640
them rather than what's in front of him. Because golf's

482
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.279
a target game. It's not a golf swing game. It's

483
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:38.279
a target game still, and if you can create the

484
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:43.200
right reactions and the right forces to your target because

485
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.440
you can't look there because you've got to look down

486
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:47.519
at the ball, but you can have your your mind

487
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.000
over there. And that's really the biggest key to getting

488
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:54.559
people to get better is once they understand the through part,

489
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:59.000
which is drill three. It's basically done. Because I could

490
00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.599
make any backswing I wanted to get back to that

491
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.359
full thirty path. I could go outside and drop it in.

492
00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.680
I could go inside and stay there. I could go

493
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.400
wide and load it. I can do any of those

494
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.960
backswings as long as I know what four thirty is

495
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:13.359
and I've trained to hit it from there.

496
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:15.400
I hit it from there and I keep going on

497
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:16.680
the way through.

498
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.279
And that doesn't mean I have to swing full out

499
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.799
force all the time. I just have to match those

500
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.880
two products of entry and exit that that they feel

501
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.799
like they're the same speed, but kind of To make

502
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:31.200
that happen, you always have to feel the after impact

503
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:34.079
is quicker than the entry, because everyone has a hit

504
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:35.480
instinct on the ball.

505
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:39.640
For like you, I've I have a fairly short backswing

506
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:43.200
that I've made somewhat longer, and I, you know, would

507
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.279
love to be able to have like a full backswing.

508
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.359
You know, But are you is that you're saying that

509
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.400
that is far less important.

510
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.720
Than as long as you have shoulders.

511
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:56.799
Yeah, as long as you get as long as you

512
00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.799
about shelters, and I don't care how far the hands

513
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:02.759
are the club go. Now, people will laugh at this.

514
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.680
We'll go back to Hogan again. If I said to someone,

515
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.839
I'd probably get laughed off the stage if I said this,

516
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:14.079
But I would typically say that Ben Hogan actually had

517
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.000
a pretty short backswing.

518
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.359
Even at the driver right now.

519
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.480
Why would I say that because people go, oh, no,

520
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:22.640
hang on, the club was over here, like John Daily,

521
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:23.599
But if you.

522
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.759
Look where his hands were rare, his hands really didn't

523
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.440
look that far. But the reason he went long.

524
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:32.279
I don't know if this is video or not that

525
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:35.119
I'll try to explain it in words too, is at

526
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.759
the top of the swing he had so much forearm rotation.

527
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.359
See what happens to my wrist, So that's not the

528
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.920
wrisk and that's the forearms rotating. So now the club

529
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:45.720
goes over here, but his hands are only here.

530
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:47.920
So he managed to.

531
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.079
Work out how to do short arm travel with big

532
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.400
turn and long club travel, so he had as much

533
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:56.200
energy as he wanted to put on the swing.

534
00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.000
Now he did swing short of his shorter clubs, of course, because.

535
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.880
In that day particularly, it wasn't how far you hit

536
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:05.599
a nine on? It was how far do I need

537
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:09.000
to hit a night? Can I hit thirty five yards

538
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:10.559
every time? I don't need to hit a nine nine

539
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.920
hundred and sixty yards? So it was a slightly obviously

540
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.160
different game back then, but distance control was more important

541
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.000
than distance, and that's one of the big arguments myself

542
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.039
and John Erickson, who we did the drills together. You know,

543
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.960
we talked to a lot of people about this, and

544
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.799
we say, all right, let's say you've got to pass

545
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.160
seventy two course, and let's be perfect and break it

546
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.799
up to thirty six hits and thirty six parts. You know,

547
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.559
not that that rarely ever happens, but that's the perfect

548
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.799
round of golf apparently. So out of those thirty six parts,

549
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.559
how many parts are you trying to hit as far

550
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.119
as you can? Now, how many chips you're trying to

551
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.720
hit as far as you can. You're not trying to

552
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.359
hit a nine nine as far as you can. You're

553
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.039
trying to hit it at a certain distance. You're not

554
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:58.720
trying to hit a four iron as far as you can.

555
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:00.160
You're trying to hit it two hundred and five five

556
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.400
yards or whatever to the hole. So if we're not

557
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.440
really trying to eat three woods as far as you can.

558
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:08.720
So let's say there's.

559
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.759
Fourteen holes that you need a driver or three wood

560
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.599
on or maybe something like that, you know, four path

561
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.519
for threes and fourteen other holes. Out of those fourteen holes,

562
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.119
you may hit an iron or three wood off a

563
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.359
couple of them. So that's gone. There's maybe ten holes left.

564
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:25.279
Now.

565
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.960
Of those ten holes that you've still got driver in

566
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.519
your hand, how many you're trying to eat as far

567
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.480
as you can. Probably two you might be cutting one

568
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.079
around the corner. You might be just trying to get

569
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.480
one in play. You might lay out, not hit one

570
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.200
too hard and just kind of get it on the fairway.

571
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:44.079
So out of seventy two shots, were really may be

572
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.559
trying to hit two or three shots as far as

573
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.680
we can. Yet that's become the whole game of golf,

574
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:52.359
and that's it's.

575
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:53.920
A crazy CROs do right.

576
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.640
It's a crazy right because I mean that yeah, but

577
00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:58.400
they wouldn't do.

578
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.079
It if they had a well we won't get into

579
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.000
the equipment. But obviously a big club that you can

580
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:05.680
swing with less fear, you're not going to miss it.

581
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.240
I mean, it's got trampoline effect.

582
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.519
It's got. But the courses they play quite wide open.

583
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.279
Now there's not you know, but you see you get

584
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.279
them on an oak mont like last year's US Open,

585
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.640
what one or two over or something. Now, when the

586
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.160
rough's there and you can't do that kind of thing,

587
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.559
they just become a bit more like mere mortals.

588
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.799
Like the rest of us, but it's yeah, they like scoring.

589
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.240
The PGA two are liked scoring, So set the courses

590
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.279
up accordingly, and the guys here at three hundred and

591
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.599
sixty yards and this becomes a wedge off.

592
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:37.960
That's about it. Wedge and powder.

593
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.200
So that to me is kind of boring golf. And

594
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:43.000
I know I sound old when I'm doing that, but

595
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:44.000
I'll saying that.

596
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.519
But no, I think we're about the same age, so

597
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:47.960
I know exactly.

598
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:49.640
I just think.

599
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.160
You know, if you've got fourteen clubs in your bag,

600
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.599
you should have to hit all of them. So typically,

601
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.759
you know there's a past four path threes you might

602
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.359
hit a long time with mid irons, a short iron,

603
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.559
four part fives. There might be one you can't reach.

604
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.000
You know, you're lay it up. There's two that you

605
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.920
could reach with a fairway wood or a two iron

606
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.240
or one iron back in the day, and one you know,

607
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.359
if you bomb to drive, you might have five iron in.

608
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.759
And then the part fours, if there's of them, there

609
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.519
should be three holes, three hit wedges in. There should

610
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.559
be four Holdrey hit mid irons. It should be three

611
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:28.839
Holdrey hit long irons. Because you want to challenge every

612
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.559
part of everyone's game. But right now in golf, it's

613
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.039
just challenging, smash it and have a wedge in and

614
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.839
who basically who puts the best. And it's kind of

615
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.559
like I said, people won't agree with that logic, but

616
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.119
it's really how golf was and how it had been

617
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.440
for four hundred three hundred years, however long it was.

618
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.839
So I don't see why golf had to change to

619
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:58.400
become more athletic or the athlete. It's not so much

620
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.359
the athlete. There was a certain skill to playing golf

621
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.200
that Elie Jansen had and a Corey Paven had that

622
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:09.759
you'll never see yet. I think that's sad because unless

623
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.359
you are now six foot three you can swing at

624
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.920
one hundred and twenty miles an hour, you're not going

625
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.160
to make a living playing golf.

626
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.960
There is no old per semon tournaments.

627
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.079
There is worth money that someone that likes that game

628
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.880
could go and invest and kind of have a career

629
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.440
out there. There's nothing there, So it's it's kind of

630
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.920
a weird get up or set up where golf has

631
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:36.880
got to because it doesn't encompass all people anymore.

632
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.480
Right well, And and I mean you know also, I

633
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.799
mean you know I've said this to a couple of

634
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.240
people I've interviewed from what I you know, from what

635
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.319
I've gathered, you know, because I grew up playing with persimmons,

636
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.160
you know, and with with irons, with you know, little

637
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.000
bleaded heads this big that you know, we're like hitting

638
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.200
a board. But like the average handicap, with all this

639
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:59.119
technology and the changes in the ball, and the big

640
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.440
heads on the club and all the all that have that,

641
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.759
people have not gotten better, right, I mean for the

642
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.119
right but but but the average, the average handicap is

643
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.960
about the same, right, right.

644
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.119
And that's you know, due to a number of factors.

645
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:13.559
Of course.

646
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.000
Now people with the big clubheads swing for the fences

647
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.960
because they want to tell their buddy they hit one

648
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.200
three hundred yards, so you know, they hit it off,

649
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.920
they hit it off the toe and it goes out

650
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.920
of bounds, and they they lose like ten balls around

651
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.319
because they're going for the Grand Slam rather than actually

652
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.400
playing golf. So there's a lot of you know, yeah,

653
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.039
and you've also got your seven year old guy at

654
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.119
the club who bunts it up the fairly, bunts it

655
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:40.920
near the green, chips it up and holds apart and

656
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.400
makes a par or bogie on every hole and he

657
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:49.559
beats all these guys. It's yeah, the handicap is weird

658
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.559
because if it was true, everyone would be better because

659
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.039
the pros are now shooting twenty under every week. But

660
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.839
obviously there they get to do it every day. They've

661
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.799
worked out all the technology to their advantage where they're

662
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.599
getting the maximum launch with the least spin, and they're

663
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.480
doing all these things that your average guy is not

664
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.039
going to do, and of course they practice. Most amateur

665
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.839
golfers don't really put in the work. I'm not saying everyone,

666
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.039
but most of them just turn up and that's fine.

667
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.599
But if you're going to do that, don't be serious

668
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.839
about it, Like, don't get mad when you don't play well.

669
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.440
Now you're not going to put him work. You're not

670
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:26.400
going to get a resolve.

671
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.920
So and that's why I love my drill stuff because

672
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:33.240
you don't even have to hit balls. You can just

673
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.160
work the drills and train your body to do something

674
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.720
and it's going to change their swing for the better.

675
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.960
I have a great example that, you know, even a

676
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.720
world class athlete like Pete Sampras. I've done a few

677
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.599
lessons with him in Australia and in California and like

678
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:53.880
great tennis player, very strong, fast served volley, all one hand,

679
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.759
all that stuff. When he did my first drill, he

680
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.519
stopped after about five of them.

681
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.880
He looked at me, goes, why does my arm hurt?

682
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:02.759
Oh?

683
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:04.839
Yeah, that's a good thing. I said.

684
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.719
That means you're now using golf muscles. He isn't entirely

685
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:12.320
different muscles in different sports. So he's a big, strong guy.

686
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.079
But he felt the burn of the first drill after

687
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.519
five of them, which you wouldn't think he would.

688
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.920
So that's what I mean, is that that's how you

689
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:22.840
change your swing.

690
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.679
Is I'm changing people's swings by work the muscle structure

691
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.599
so they can react and do it accordingly, rather than

692
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.840
just saying all right, you've got to be here and

693
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.559
you've got to do this like it's not it's not

694
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.559
the same. It's you know, I could teach some people

695
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.960
like that, but it's not as effective. And also with

696
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.880
the drills, even though I'm telling them what to do,

697
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.239
they still have their own They gain their own observations

698
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.480
from it as they do it. Because I'll get questions,

699
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.400
what should I feel this? I go, probably, yeah, that's fine.

700
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.320
I don't see any issue, that's your feels. You know,

701
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.519
I might say something different, but if that's what you

702
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.039
feel and can see that, so it gives them encouragement

703
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:04.800
and work, and like.

704
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.719
I said, it it just works.

705
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.840
So that's that's why I've never changed my philosophy in

706
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.320
seventeen years. And it's not a swing philosophy. I you know,

707
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.719
I could show you one hundred students and they all

708
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.440
look different, but they're all doing the same.

709
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.840
Physics on the ball, right right, So yeah, so what

710
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.840
I mean, you know, obviously being squared impact is essential,

711
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.800
but what else? I mean, you know, what else are

712
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.599
you know, does the average golfer have to you know,

713
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.360
I mean I know they're all different, but you know,

714
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.960
what are the things, you know, like the two or

715
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.199
three biggest things that people come into you and you see,

716
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.599
you know right away that need to be helped with

717
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:42.480
with these drills.

718
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:47.400
Yeah, so the biggest flaws Basically, what would you classify

719
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:48.360
as a bad golfer?

720
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:49.679
Twenty handicap and above?

721
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.760
Well, I think that's an average. I mean that's actually

722
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.719
I heard somebody said that's an average golfer, right.

723
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:58.079
All right, So let's say twenty is not good?

724
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.519
I guess, Yeah, let's say try what is the degrading lane.

725
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.199
Right, So using that as a baseline, most of those

726
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.079
people that handicap and above and obviously some below.

727
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.280
One, they don't turn enough. They lift. They just lift

728
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:13.760
the club up.

729
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.679
They don't get any shoulder turn because they're trying to

730
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.119
just get the club up here and they don't care.

731
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:20.320
How they do it. They just lift it up.

732
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.960
Two, they just lose angle straight away because there's a

733
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.920
hit instinct. There's a hit instinct to hit the ball,

734
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.960
but the better golfer hits it really late, and the

735
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.360
poor golfer starts hitting early. So obviously they cast the

736
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.119
club away, which normally equates to a couple of things.

737
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.159
An okay player when they cast the club away may

738
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.039
drop their arms behind them so they come from the inside.

739
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.320
But most people that cast the club away throw the

740
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.679
clubhead outside the line, and they're just going to continually.

741
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.679
Come across the ball.

742
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:58.079
So we get cast becomes mainly slicing and casting, trying

743
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.000
to hit the ball too soon, losing all the anger

744
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.920
of the club basically is the form of fats and

745
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.119
thin shots. Club's going to hit the ground before the

746
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.960
ball or if they get jack of that they'll start

747
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:11.960
standing their body up and then they just thin it

748
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.719
as well, so they're kind of the main things. Obviously,

749
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.159
some people don't have great grips, but I'm not a

750
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:23.159
huge grip guy because Hall of Fame's phillips and junkie grips.

751
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.480
So is the grip of true fundamental, Yes to a degree.

752
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.400
But again with people do the drill my first drill

753
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.679
with the one handed, left handed, and then right handed.

754
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.400
What happens is you can't do it with a bad grip,

755
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.360
so it kind of molds their grip to where it

756
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.480
should be without.

757
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:40.960
Them even noticing.

758
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.400
Because if I stood on the range you came to

759
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.440
me for a lesson, I said, oh, your grip stinks,

760
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.039
let's do this. It's a basic waste of the next

761
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.960
fifty minutes because it's not going to feel good and

762
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.559
it's not going to prob get much resulted. You're going

763
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.920
to revert back to trying to get a good shot

764
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.519
because the grip doesn't feel right. But when you do

765
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.639
the impact drill, there is no result. So you're working

766
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:04.639
the form and all of a sudden, the grip starts

767
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.599
to go where it has to go, and that would

768
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.840
generally mean a little bit weaker left hand and a

769
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.199
little bit more angled right hand with the fingers on

770
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.119
top rather than you know, the claw underneath, which is

771
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.440
not good at all for any golf of the right hand.

772
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:20.719
Claw too strong.

773
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.920
Now let's talk about Sam Snead for a second. I

774
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.159
mean what you know obviously, I mean for me, that

775
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.880
is like, you know, I would you know, give up

776
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.519
about the last ten years of my life if I

777
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.400
could swing like that? So what what what can you know?

778
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.800
What can what can golfers learn from watching sneed other

779
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.039
than just how beautiful his swing is and you know

780
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.000
how incredibly rhythmic and athletic and natural, you know, the

781
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.199
way he swings the club is.

782
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:59.679
Yeah, So basically him and Hogan are very similar. Is

783
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:03.159
a great In one of Sam's books, he has a

784
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:08.239
description with a clock again clocks of good visuals, and

785
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.400
he talked about trying to get his hands to only

786
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.440
go to ten o'clock. So he's now talking at a

787
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.480
clock that's upright, you know, not on the ground like

788
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.960
we're looking at when I was talking about up behind him,

789
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.079
So twelve o'clock is now above his head. So he's

790
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.360
trying to fill his hands only go to ten o'clock,

791
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.719
but his shoulders feel like they turned to one o'clock.

792
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.119
So again there's the shoulder turn thin, not the lift,

793
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.639
so he's shorthands. Hogan had short hands. There, they're talking

794
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:39.880
the same language. They did their downswing differently because Hogan

795
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.519
went into a pretty straight right leg transition and fell

796
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.599
forwards a little bit, but not with his top half.

797
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.159
He just fell forwards.

798
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.960
With his lower half, and that delayed his body action

799
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.440
for later on, which again is perfect because that's after impave.

800
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.840
You start pulling your body too soon, you're going to

801
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.800
start casting and come over the top. So sneed did

802
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.960
it more into a squat, And you can't do the

803
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.519
squat unless you push it in your right foot as well,

804
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.199
because if I push him down into both feet, the

805
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.880
pressure goes that way, my knees kind of separate, they

806
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.239
go out.

807
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.440
It's like he squat did again. That's why I hate

808
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:19.920
people talking about get onto your.

809
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.159
Left foot, because you're going to get onto your left

810
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:22.920
foot eventually.

811
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.000
But you've got to be able to.

812
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.679
Shift weight through pressure, not from just shifting weight, and

813
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.320
that's one of the big things, right.

814
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:33.320
Yeah, So you've got to push.

815
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.000
Right because your body won't want to fall down to

816
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.400
the right. When you push into your right leg, your

817
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.320
left hip will counterbalance you and you balance yourself out.

818
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.159
That's your body doesn't want to fall over, so you

819
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.639
actually get left by trying to go right, which freaks

820
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:48.159
people out.

821
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:49.320
But I've done a bunch.

822
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.239
Of videos about it, and they've kind of not made

823
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.119
me famous, but a lot of people go, oh, yeah,

824
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:56.039
that makes so much sense.

825
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.320
Of course, it makes sense because that's what everyone is doing.

826
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.119
You're going to get left now if you lose all

827
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.119
your pressure out your right leg too soon. Again, Nay,

828
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.360
you've lose resistance to be able to do the through

829
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.960
swing with the left side, so that they were very

830
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:15.159
much similar. Hogan talked about three right hands in his

831
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.880
book and his videos or whatever he talked about. He

832
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.880
wanted to basically hit as hard as he could with

833
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.679
his right hand. Now I'm under the impression that's actually

834
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.039
right forearm, but you end up feeling it in your

835
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.119
hand if I just use my hand. If I use

836
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.519
my hand, the grip slows down. If I use my forearm,

837
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.519
the grip speeds up, so I'm not flipped the matter

838
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.079
and Sneed had the same diagram in his book again

839
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.280
that he poured the power and I think he had

840
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.719
it about eighteen inches before. Himpig said at this spot,

841
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.719
I poured my right hand into the shot. So again

842
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.719
they're basically saying the same thing. I don't think Snead

843
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.920
was as good the after impact stuff as strong as

844
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.360
Hogan was. Hogan, if you look at this swing, his

845
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.840
swing was very up tempo, right fast back, fast down,

846
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.280
fast through. Now you can only do that if you're

847
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.719
fast on the way through. If you think of Nick Price,

848
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.920
fast back, fast down, fast through. So they can have

849
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.599
a more upbeat tempo because they're so strong after impact

850
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.320
with their body and everything. Now, Sneed wasn't quite as

851
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.039
strong on the way through, so his swing had a

852
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.000
bit more rhythm to it. It was slower because it's

853
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.840
like Ernie Els Ernie. He's not great on the way through.

854
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.840
It looks beautiful, but he has a nice tempo and

855
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.519
he creates a big arc, and he creates a lot

856
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.079
of speed still because of his size, and then when

857
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.119
he releases and all that, but he collapses a little bit.

858
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:43.400
On the way through. He's not as good on the

859
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.079
way through. If he was, he might have been.

860
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.199
Yeah, he could have challenged Tiger, I think, but everyone

861
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.360
has one thing that they're not that good at, whether

862
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.440
it's swing, whether it's Jack Nicholas and the Great Chipper,

863
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.199
you know, all these different things that there's kind of

864
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.320
one thing that holds every gulf of ba. They don't

865
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.119
give them everything set maybe Tiger got nil everything. Oh

866
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.440
they weren't the best driver of the ball. Stuff like that.

867
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:15.079
So there's there's swing. Philosophies were very similar. They said

868
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.159
important things the same, but their swings again looked different.

869
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:26.239
And that's the that's the observation of whose brain is

870
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.360
it coming from. Someone says it one way, someone says

871
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.400
it another way, but they're basically trying to speak the

872
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.119
same terms. They just have different ways of nunciating it.

873
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.320
Now in terms of you know, like going back to

874
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.719
the footwork for a second, you know, and like looking

875
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:46.840
at somebody like sneed or I'm trying to remember who

876
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.039
you're talking about before. But oh, Norman, yep, I'm guessing.

877
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:52.840
You know, like the average person when they come to

878
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.679
you has no idea other than just getting their feet planted.

879
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.199
On the ground, right, no idea none. They don't even

880
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:00.960
know how to use it.

881
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.119
But everyone says the swing works from the ground up,

882
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.039
but no one knows how to do it right.

883
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.559
So so just I mean literally, you know, if you

884
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.000
don't mind, just describe literally physically what like you were

885
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.960
saying Norman was doing. Because even I mean, I'm you know,

886
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.360
I'm slightly better than the average, but I'm not, you know.

887
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.639
I always I'm like, okay, how do I use my

888
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.800
feet here? And I never feel like I get what

889
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.639
you're talking you know, like what they're talking about when

890
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.000
they say, you know, pushing their feet into the ground, right.

891
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.239
So it can do it two ways.

892
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.559
So I have a product that I've used in all

893
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.320
my lessons called it down underboard, and you put it

894
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.440
between your feet and you grab it with the inside

895
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.599
of your feet. So that's kind of teaching you the

896
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:46.320
pressures because what you'll find is when there's something there

897
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.360
to grip against, you can grip it firmly. It's harder

898
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.199
to do it when there's this ground there because there's

899
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.280
nothing to you know, compress against with your feet. So

900
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.000
the board teaches you to squeeze inwards to provide the pressure.

901
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.559
I don't do it that. I actually just push downwards

902
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.159
to the same tension level.

903
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.760
And let's say you know, like you said, the normal

904
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.320
golfer just stands that he's not really doing it. He's

905
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.239
got body weight, so that would be one out of ten.

906
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.199
You know, there's tens as hard as you could do it.

907
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.079
His body weight's giving him one out of ten just

908
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.679
because he's there, and he might just push him a

909
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.039
little bit or squeeze a little bit to get things

910
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.800
going and that might get a two out of ten.

911
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.519
So if he's going back with a two out of

912
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.199
ten in his feet and then that transition hits in

913
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.920
where his brain nose, I've got to push downwards because

914
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:40.719
I'm changing direction like I'm throwing, shooting and jumping, that too,

915
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.239
now becomes a six or a seven. So there's a

916
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.360
big shift in what your body is feeling. Your feet

917
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.199
have gone from a two up to a six or seven,

918
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.000
so your brain can't compute that and it wants to

919
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.400
just give it all up again. So that's where you

920
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.519
see people start jumping in the air or sliding laterally

921
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:58.519
too much.

922
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.239
Or you know, all that that body can't keep.

923
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.199
You can't add that much and then expect to hold

924
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.920
it again, it's going to dissipate. So with the board there,

925
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.960
what I trained people to do is start with at

926
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.840
least a seven out of ten, and then when you push,

927
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.519
that's seven now only becomes maybe an eight, possibly a nine.

928
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.400
So now that shifting pressure in your feet when you

929
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.840
press in transition, it's less, so your body doesn't react

930
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.920
to it as much and it goes Ah, I want

931
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.840
to keep pushing now because I've felt a little bit,

932
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.039
but it's not extreme. So now I'm going to I

933
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.400
know I don't want to go from a seven or

934
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.440
eight down to a two again because I started with

935
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:41.559
a seven. So basically teaches them to keep using the

936
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.599
ground for longer. Now, if you keep using your feet

937
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.840
for longer, it means you push down to the ground,

938
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.800
you're not going to stand up. And if you don't

939
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.119
stand up, you don't have to straighten your right arm

940
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.119
to hit the ball either, because you're not getting further

941
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.880
from the ball, you're getting closer. So now your right

942
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.639
arm can be more stable. You don't need to straighten

943
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.360
it the the ball. And then what happens is now

944
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.719
your wrist stays better. Now You're right arms stays bamp

945
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.480
like it was it a dress, and you haven't changed

946
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.079
the pitch of the shaft from address to impact and

947
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.159
you haven't changed the face, so it just becomes much

948
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.840
much more consistent. And that's that's obviously the essence of

949
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.239
golf is that we don't need to you know, and

950
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.280
everyone said this for Donkeys' years. It's not the one

951
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:24.639
that it's the best shots. It is the one that

952
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.119
hits the least bad shots or the bad shots are

953
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:28.719
still okay.

954
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.159
Rights, And what is the average prace?

955
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.039
They hit three balls out of bounds, they top a

956
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.559
couple into the drink, they're taking penalties, they're having two

957
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.400
or three chips on a hole. It is basically wasting shots.

958
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:47.079
So refew can hit the ball straighter, more consistent. And

959
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.280
of course all these things I talk about create extra

960
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:55.679
speed because forearms uncock your wrists that speed, the hands

961
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:58.559
go faster through the ball, and they kick the shaft

962
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.639
flexed other than kick the shaft that speed. You generally

963
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:05.800
line the club up on the ball better because you're

964
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.119
rotating the center of gravity of the club onto the

965
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.440
ball rather than just slapping it at the ball.

966
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.239
That's a better hit. That's more speed.

967
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.159
Now you're using the ground to pull your body from

968
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.920
so that's more speed. So everything that I teach is

969
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.840
it's speed, but it's also control. So you know, I've

970
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.360
had many people think with the first drill, some people

971
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:30.119
lose a little bit of speed because they're not using

972
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.519
their hands as much and just flicking the.

973
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.559
Club at the ball. They're using the whole club.

974
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:37.880
And they haven't learned to do that with speed yet.

975
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.639
But once they do the after impact stuff they start,

976
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.920
you know, they pick up ten percent of their normal

977
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.440
distance they go because they're now creating an accelerating club

978
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.599
all the way through impact and beyond rather than just.

979
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:53.960
A velocitized club.

980
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.199
So it's pretty cool stuff to watch people change because

981
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.760
and the way I do it is, you know, I

982
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.599
have five main drills and I call them obviously one, two, three, four, five,

983
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.239
but I relate it to like playing music. Pardon me.

984
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.199
First drill is called a sit there with a guitar.

985
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.039
And you go hey yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, boring.

986
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.559
But then you do coord B and you go bbbbb,

987
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.599
and then you go AB, like you learn how to

988
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.480
put the two together. And then you add the third drill,

989
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.480
which is called C, and then you go footooball ab

990
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.559
and they start making music. So you can't teach a

991
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.679
swing all once because there's too many fine nique for

992
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:41.400
night differences and things that your body needs to adjust to,

993
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:44.280
your brain needs to adjust to. And that's kind of

994
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:48.039
why when people try and do a swing change, they'll

995
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.559
get their camera out. I don't film much when I

996
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.599
do lessons. I do a little bit and they just

997
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.840
to show them the difference. But once, you know, after

998
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.320
a month of doing the drill, then their swing actually changes.

999
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.599
So I'm not going to film them that afternoon. It's

1000
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.960
not going to look too different, but the ball's going

1001
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.400
to behave differently. So you know, people get their camera

1002
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:06.920
and they're saying, right, I am going to do this,

1003
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.079
and I'm going to do that, and they film it

1004
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.679
and they replay and they look and they go, that

1005
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.760
doesn't look anything different, And of course it's not because

1006
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.679
you're not going to change your swing by a thought.

1007
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.039
You've got to change the muscle structure of what's happening

1008
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:24.679
with your body in certain aspects to be able to

1009
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:27.320
slop the club deeper, or move the club faster than

1010
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.239
the impact, move your body faster beyond him. You know,

1011
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.760
you've got to do all these It's basically strength training

1012
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:40.400
through repetition that then transfers onto the course or the ball,

1013
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.960
because you take the bag away and just put a

1014
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:44.159
ball on, you do the same thing.

1015
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.239
How now I'm going to just go back to the

1016
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:50.159
feet one more time, so I get it. So since

1017
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.039
I'm not going to be jumping right, I'm not shooting

1018
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.880
a basketball right, and is it literally I'm just pressing

1019
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:02.159
my feet as hard as I can. And how can

1020
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.559
I do that for me? I mean, you know like it?

1021
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.960
I always feel like the last the free of my

1022
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:11.360
body is right, the last tuson I've got right, the

1023
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:13.079
better I sweat good.

1024
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.000
But hang on one night you go on great point.

1025
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.559
Yes, So the down underboard that I use, you train

1026
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:21.679
it between your feet.

1027
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.079
Where is now all the pressure it's in your feet?

1028
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:25.199
Isn't that all the pressure?

1029
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:27.840
Yeah, when you squeeze on the board, you're putting all

1030
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:29.840
the pressure on your feet. So that allows you to

1031
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.599
be softer in your shoulders.

1032
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:34.159
And your arms.

1033
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.760
So if you put But most people that have nothing

1034
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.519
in their feet, what do they do? And they get

1035
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.280
really tight upstairs and then they can't move or turn.

1036
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:45.599
So I just wanted to say that because you you

1037
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.840
kind of stumbled on the answer right there with what

1038
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.280
you were saying, can you remember the rest of what

1039
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:49.880
you're going to say?

1040
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:52.239
So?

1041
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.400
So okay, So how so what am I? What am

1042
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:56.880
I doing? When I stand up to the ball and

1043
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.239
want to get my feet into the ground like.

1044
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.599
That, Initially.

1045
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.519
You can't stand okay, so this is your press. Yeah,

1046
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.719
you can't stand there and press your feet while you're

1047
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.440
waggling and looking for So I would typically say, when

1048
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.760
I'm out of dress, I'm getting as comfortable as I can.

1049
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.719
My arms are soft, my feet are soft. I'm waggling

1050
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:23.960
to feel my wrists move, and yeah, not relaxed, because

1051
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:27.239
I think I think the hands should have a pretty

1052
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:28.599
good hold on the club. You don't want to grip

1053
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:30.719
the club lightly. If it's moving one hundred miles an hour,

1054
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.119
needs some type of grip on it. And of course, again,

1055
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.360
if you grip a club to light when you swing,

1056
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.400
you're going to regrip it and strengthen it. So there's

1057
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.480
an extra element added in that you don't need. So

1058
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:46.639
why not just start with a firmer grip. So this

1059
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.039
is something that I did with Brendon Todd when we

1060
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.519
were working on getting him out of his funk. He's

1061
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.159
right before he about five months before he won again,

1062
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.280
got his card back and one we did this drill,

1063
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.199
and I said, I asked him to rate his hands,

1064
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.079
his arms, and his feet at a dress before he

1065
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.920
hit a shot. He said, my feet are at two,

1066
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.960
my arms are a six, and my hands are a eight.

1067
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.679
I mean, all right, well that's not good. So I said,

1068
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:18.039
let's get your feet to a seven. Let's get your

1069
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.480
grip to a five. I'm talking out of ten, you know,

1070
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.119
and your arms out of two. So we call it

1071
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.320
the seven five to two. So basically, now you've got

1072
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.360
the two things that are holding something. Your feet a

1073
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.000
hold in the ground. They have the most pressure, your

1074
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:34.880
hands are holding the club they have the second most pressure,

1075
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.960
and everything else is free to move. But of course

1076
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.880
it's going to tense up as you swing because you're

1077
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.840
creating motion, but it's never going to reach the standards

1078
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.800
because if your feet start a seven, they're going to

1079
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.719
get to an eight or nine. If your hands start

1080
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:50.159
a five, they're going to get to a six or

1081
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.559
a seven. If your arms started two, they're probably going

1082
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:53.719
to get to a three or four.

1083
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:55.440
So you're still.

1084
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.039
Keeping the freedom in your swing, but you're using the

1085
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.519
force in the right spot. So before I hit a shot,

1086
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.760
and I'm waggling and I'm doing nothing, and I've looked

1087
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.360
at my target and I'm back to my checking my

1088
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.440
hands with my ball position and all that. When I

1089
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:16.079
feel ready to go, I push my feet and within

1090
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.920
a second I start my swing. So I don't think

1091
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:20.880
of it when I swing, I just ingrain.

1092
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:22.239
I've worked on.

1093
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.280
It enough to ingrain it so it for friends and

1094
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.280
it should And then I don't think of it when

1095
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:27.639
I swing.

1096
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.000
I just build it in and go. So it's a

1097
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:30.920
pre set condition.

1098
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.360
And the crazy thing is with this once you get

1099
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.000
really good at I'm letting my secrets out now, is

1100
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.920
if I want to hit a normal eye and distance,

1101
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.440
So I hit my seven nine even though I'm fifty

1102
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.239
eight years old now, I still hit my seven eye

1103
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:48.159
like one hundred and seventy two in the air, which

1104
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:48.679
is decent.

1105
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:49.800
I could play golf.

1106
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.800
Pity, I can't git my driver to go far, but

1107
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:56.039
my eyes I'm still pretty long with relatively speaking. So

1108
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:57.840
if I if I had one hundred and seventy to

1109
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.119
one hundred and seventy three four yards before I take

1110
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.360
the club away, I push my feet to a seven

1111
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.559
out of ten and then I swing and I will

1112
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.599
get that distance. Now, if I had to hit at

1113
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:11.239
one hundred and sixty four yards, I wouldn't swing slower.

1114
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.639
I just push my feet to a five before I swing,

1115
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.920
and now my release can't work as hard. My feet

1116
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.039
don't push as much, and my body won't rip as

1117
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.079
hard because I don't have as much resistance in my feet.

1118
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:26.679
So I change distance out of my feet, not my swing.

1119
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.000
That's really interesting, and that makes total sunse right because.

1120
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.119
I further, I would push to a nine, And if

1121
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.800
I hit a driver, I'd push to a nine every

1122
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.280
drive if I want to hit it far, because that's

1123
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:43.800
going to make my swing function at its fastest. But

1124
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.320
when I do those subtle differences, it's only out of

1125
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.360
my feet. I swing the same length. I do everything

1126
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.679
the same. It feels like I'm swinging exactly the same.

1127
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.519
But my seven is my standard. My five out of

1128
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.760
ten pressure everything goes a bit softer, and my nine

1129
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.280
out of ten pressure everything goes a bit faster. So

1130
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.840
then it's a way easier way to play golf because

1131
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.480
imagine standing they go, I had to hit at one

1132
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.400
sixty four, how far I've got to take the club

1133
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:15.079
to eleven fifteen. I've got to swing like it now,

1134
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.800
you're not thinking of your swing. Your foot pressure does

1135
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.360
it all for you. And of course, right swing works

1136
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.480
from the ground up. And if you understand that, it's

1137
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.920
really simple logic to do. And I know you sort

1138
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.599
of your eye could see your eyebrows go up. When

1139
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.199
I've told about that. No one talks about it. I

1140
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.159
might be the only person that talks about that, because

1141
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.039
every time I show that to a student, their jaw

1142
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.039
hits the four. They're like, no way, I got yeap man,

1143
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.960
Because it's way easier to do every day. You know

1144
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.639
what a five or seven or nine. See, It's like

1145
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.960
you don't know what eleven o'clock feels or this, or

1146
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.039
how hard do I need to swing or do I

1147
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:54.519
need to swing hard? If I do it in the

1148
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:56.599
wrong spot, it just all balances out.

1149
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:01.719
It's very cool, right, Yeah, that's that's really interesting. That's

1150
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:03.840
all I'll have to give that, because I mean, that

1151
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:04.639
is one thing.

1152
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.480
I've done it, done that since I was twelve years old,

1153
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:10.079
right of course, so for me it's easy.

1154
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.039
I don't even have to think of it now.

1155
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.159
Of course, I don't practice much anymore, play much, so

1156
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.320
I'm sure my legs are weaker than they used to

1157
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.000
be because I don't use them, so I'm not perfect

1158
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:23.760
at it now, but I can still go out and

1159
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.960
do it basically every day and it's still understand how

1160
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.320
to do it, and it still works even without practicing

1161
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.719
doing it. But you have to ingrain it in there first,

1162
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.519
so it becomes a reaction and not an action.

1163
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:48.239
Last question, if you if you know average, you know,

1164
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.599
say fifteen handicap walks under you or doesn't you walk

1165
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.440
into you just as you're talking to them, and you know,

1166
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.840
a coffee shop or restaurant, whatever they say. If I

1167
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.599
had to think about two things that to work on

1168
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:03.360
without you seeing the swing, like two things to make

1169
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.599
me a better golfer, swing the club better, what would

1170
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:07.840
be the two things you would tell somebody to.

1171
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.159
Go out and do. What do you think people? What

1172
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:13.480
do I think?

1173
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.840
Most people would say, yeah.

1174
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:16.639
You know, I don't know.

1175
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:20.760
I mean, I think you know what. I don't have

1176
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.000
an answer. I'm not a coach, but I guess you've.

1177
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.960
Got to you've got to have a good grip. You've

1178
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.119
got to take the club away on plane.

1179
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.280
Right, they right, right? Or they tell they got to rotate,

1180
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.840
you know, like like watching a pro right, which is

1181
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.280
not the way anybody.

1182
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:43.000
Like learn the foot pressure number one? Okay, second thing

1183
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:47.880
posting pact. If I can control I can control shots

1184
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.920
out here, just like the the foot pressure. I can

1185
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:55.400
control distance. I can control curve and trajectory over here

1186
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.039
after I've hit the ball feel wise, because what I'm

1187
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.840
what I'm focused on over here. You know, I talked

1188
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.960
about the left side, but I can switch that up.

1189
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:05.880
I can use my right shoulder to it a drawer,

1190
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.559
and I can use my left shoulder here to fade

1191
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.159
instead of that left side to hit a straight one.

1192
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:14.039
And I can aim the same. I can aim perfectly

1193
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.280
the same, or I can aim where I want to

1194
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.519
aim to make the show happen. The problem is aiming

1195
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.880
perfect is then you've got to swing perfect right. So right,

1196
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.719
I don't care about aim. You know, I'm very right

1197
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.880
eye dominant, so I tend to aim a little.

1198
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.360
Bit right and kind of look backwards.

1199
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.400
So my aim is generally slightly right. But to me

1200
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.760
it looks straight, so that doesn't really matter. But I

1201
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.719
can control my If I can hit it high, I

1202
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.320
can hit it low, I can draw it, and I

1203
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.239
can fade it, and I can do a combo of

1204
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.320
a couple of those with all my thought, not how

1205
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.079
I take the club away, not where I'm aimed, and

1206
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.480
not how my downswing is. All I think about is

1207
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:56.840
over post impact, because really what happens is what I'm

1208
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:01.199
feeling over there after impact. The down swing prepares for it.

1209
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:03.599
If I know I'm going to pull my right shoulder

1210
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.639
over and hit it like a top spin cross cord

1211
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:07.920
like in tennis, that would be a drawer for me.

1212
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.719
I'm not doing my hands, I'm doing my shoulder. So

1213
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:13.719
for my brain to know I'm going to rip my right.

1214
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.800
Shoulder four foot past the ball.

1215
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.800
My right shoulder starts coming down and I sloped the

1216
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.400
club a little bit below myself, so my right shoulder

1217
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:25.559
can move and I can hit a draw. And then

1218
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:27.960
the beauty of that is you can aim wherever you like.

1219
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.599
It doesn't matter because if there's trouble. Let's say the

1220
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:34.599
flag is on the right side of a green and

1221
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:36.320
it looks like you want to fade it in there,

1222
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.880
that would normally be the observation. Right for a good

1223
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.039
player that can control the ball, I got to start

1224
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.079
it over there. I'm going to fade it to that

1225
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:45.800
pin that's on the right hand side of the green.

1226
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.480
But on the left there's water, whether there's a pine

1227
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.159
tree or there's something there that is in your visual

1228
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.000
or your mind that says I can't aim over there

1229
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:58.679
because I'm worried about the water or the hitting the

1230
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.679
tree or something like that and messes you up. I

1231
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.039
could aim ten yard. I could aim ten yards right

1232
01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.079
of that flag, miss like I'm going to miss the

1233
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.960
green right and after impact, rip my left shoulder instead

1234
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:14.000
of my left side and the ball start left me

1235
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:14.840
cut back.

1236
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:16.280
Now.

1237
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:20.920
But okay, now that's advanced stuff, right, that's advanced stuff.

1238
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.079
I would love to be able to do.

1239
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.719
I've had twelve fifteen handicappers like yourself be able to

1240
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:30.239
do it. Because they are they get it like one

1241
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.679
side sharm. They go, that's pretty easy, and believe it

1242
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:35.800
or not, the drawer is easiest one. Be able to

1243
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.360
draw it with your right shoulder is the simplest thing

1244
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.960
to do because all it does is shift the paths.

1245
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.400
It doesn't shift the face because you're not using hands

1246
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.199
and you're not aiming any different. You just shift the

1247
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:48.559
path because you right shoulders, you're going to come higher

1248
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:50.000
on the way.

1249
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:54.280
Through, so you start playing golf with less perfection.

1250
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.320
You don't need to worry about perfection if you think

1251
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.239
about who are two of the best ball stripe Because

1252
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:05.039
everyone talks about Mo, Norman, Lee Trevino. Watch them, watch

1253
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:07.599
them on the course or on the range. They don't

1254
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.960
even line up. Moe just puts a ball down and

1255
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.280
line and hits it straight at it and Trevino just

1256
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.400
shuffles his feet around until he feels right and then

1257
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:16.920
he hits it.

1258
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:19.440
So they're not being perfect, they're just aiming or whatever

1259
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:21.519
they want, what looks right right.

1260
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:25.760
So that's the freedom that I had playing golf, or

1261
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.880
even now today, is that I don't even think golf

1262
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.039
s when if I think of anything, I think, build

1263
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.599
my foot pressure, do what I need to do after impact,

1264
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.800
and my swing will function perfectly well to correspond to that. Now,

1265
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:41.519
it's a kind of a brains It messes with your

1266
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:45.920
brain because everyone is so intent on what's behind them

1267
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:48.360
rather than what's in front of him. But once you

1268
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.480
understand it, it just makes golf really simple.

1269
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.639
One one last last thing. So I read you were

1270
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.119
talking about the head, and you know the whole thing

1271
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.199
of Nicholas you know, saying he never moved his head,

1272
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:03.159
and then you have the video of the pictures of

1273
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.280
him turning his head. What's what's your feeling on the

1274
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:08.519
You know, the head does not have to stay.

1275
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.599
Well, it can't stay.

1276
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:14.920
Because if you're set up with the ball in your

1277
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:17.440
head still, as soon as you turn your shoulders, your

1278
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:21.280
head's going to move to some degree, and then as

1279
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.039
soon as you can press down in your legs in transition,

1280
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.079
when you push a bit more, your head's going to drop.

1281
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.880
And then a lot of players because remember a golf

1282
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.320
club when it swings, got a lot of centrifugal force

1283
01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.000
on it because the heavier the bottom end is heavier

1284
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.559
than the top end, so that the bottom end is

1285
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:40.760
trying to move away from you when you swim forcefully

1286
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:41.960
away from the body.

1287
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:46.440
So that's why what I teach it it stops the clubway.

1288
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.039
You basically keep the club in a tighter circle with

1289
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.599
that plus and minus entry and exit.

1290
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:55.719
So what that what that does?

1291
01:03:56.039 --> 01:04:01.039
I forgot what we were talking about. Now I went

1292
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.199
off on a slightly different tangent there. What was the

1293
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:04.199
original question.

1294
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.519
I was I was asking you about the head moving

1295
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:08.079
the head?

1296
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.159
That's right, correct?

1297
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.119
So it can move on the backswim because you're going

1298
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.280
to turn your shoulder, so your spine moves a bit

1299
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.440
and your weight shifts a bit. It's going to drop

1300
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:22.440
in transition because you can press you feet down into

1301
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:25.239
the ground. Your knees probably flecks a little bit. And

1302
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.440
then some people Donald Palmer is a great example, and

1303
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:30.639
even Nicholas did it. Tom Watson did it a bit

1304
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.840
is on the way through. Their head often also goes

1305
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.239
backwards again because this is where the centrifugal force came

1306
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:42.519
from that I was talking about. They're fighting centrifugal force.

1307
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.800
If they keep moving with that centrifugal force, the club's

1308
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.320
going to try fly off, so that they actually their

1309
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.000
head drops back, particularly.

1310
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:51.519
With the driver or three.

1311
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:53.159
Would you know when you've got the ball teat up

1312
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.679
a bit, they fight that centrifical force to make the

1313
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.920
club not fly right. They actually hang back even more

1314
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.320
so even though a lot of people will saying Nicholas,

1315
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.840
like we talked about, he said his head didn't move,

1316
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.440
or Jack Groud apparently used to hold his hair or something.

1317
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:14.400
He used to have something right, But the idea is

1318
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.800
to not get excessive with it. But Curtis strange went

1319
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.320
way over here, and then he went way over there.

1320
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:25.239
So if your spine moves and your weight transfers, your

1321
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:26.079
head's going to move.

1322
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.199
But I think the important thing.

1323
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.880
Is just as long as your eyes are fixated somewhere

1324
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.440
in the same vicinity, that you don't change your eye position,

1325
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.400
that you're not looking at the ball from now inside

1326
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.239
when you're actually looking at it from the top to

1327
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.159
start with. So I think it's more it's more the

1328
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:46.039
levelness of your eyes rather than the head movement.

1329
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.039
Right. Well, it's fine.

1330
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.199
I tried, you know, I was watching some videos of

1331
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:53.039
Nicholas and you know he's got the head to turn

1332
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:56.519
to the left and he's the left eye. And when

1333
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.199
you were saying you're a right e dominant, I really

1334
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:03.639
I went out to I tried to hit by doing

1335
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:05.599
that because I was like, oh, I'll get a bigger turn,

1336
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:09.079
you know, because you know, freeze up the buddy. I

1337
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.639
was absolutely, I mean, you know, I tried twice.

1338
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:16.760
I mean, you know, because my now my right right.

1339
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:21.880
Funny story though, so that time for this, yeah, of course.

1340
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:27.559
Nineteen ninety seven US Open at Congressional I was hitting it, okay.

1341
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:28.960
I had a couple three parts and I ate a

1342
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.440
couple just missed the green and I whipped the chip

1343
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.320
and I'm the first day, I'm seven over through seven holes,

1344
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.159
like holy.

1345
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:38.000
Cow, get me out of here.

1346
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:42.239
And for some reason, even though I don't like it,

1347
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:45.000
because I on the eighth tee, I thought, I feel

1348
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:46.719
some on top of the ball. I'm going to do

1349
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:49.840
my Jack Nicholas head thing. And I tilted my head

1350
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.519
back like we're just talking about. I could hardly see

1351
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:55.360
the ball and I played and I birdied the eighth

1352
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.039
and I off I went, and I so seven over

1353
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.960
through seven. The next sixty five holes, I played two underpar.

1354
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.599
Came sixteenth and I got in the Masters. I was

1355
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:08.679
ready to go home after seven holes and I ended

1356
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:13.239
up and my only swing thought was Jack Nicholas head

1357
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.480
because I felt I felt like I was two on

1358
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:18.679
top of the ball, so I shifted my eyes back

1359
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.719
to that, even though I didn't feel comfortable, and I

1360
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.360
played great, but that was it. I never did it again.

1361
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.280
But it's funny how some little keys just work.

1362
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:29.679
Yeah, no, it's I mean, it's so funny. I mean

1363
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.639
because I, you know, like I was watching him swing

1364
01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:33.000
and I was like, God, you know, he's got that

1365
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:37.079
great you know, vertical, you know, swinging, and I was like,

1366
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:40.119
you know, and if I could just get get that

1367
01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.440
kind of turn. I mean obviously not his turn, but

1368
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.159
I mean, you know my room of that, and I

1369
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.760
mean I felt like I'd never played golf before. All right,

1370
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:52.840
It's difficult because it was such a change.

1371
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:55.159
If I hadn't a birdied the eight sol, I probably

1372
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.760
would have quit it right there and then. But so

1373
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.119
I'll give you, I'll give you two one tip about

1374
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:05.760
you creating a longer backswing. So you got to take

1375
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:07.840
a club away with how do you feel? Do you

1376
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:12.679
feel shoulders, arms hips, hands on, what what do you feel?

1377
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.880
You know, I try to do with my shoulders, you know.

1378
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.720
And like one thing you know, and it's I am.

1379
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.000
You know, when you were talking about like the grip pressure.

1380
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:26.319
One of the things I noticed was I I took

1381
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:28.399
I took a lesson from a guy who worked with

1382
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:30.640
Mike Austin, right, you know, the guy who hit the

1383
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:35.479
five hundred and fifteen year drive. And it actually for

1384
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:40.920
about three weeks worked great. And I was, I mean,

1385
01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:43.039
and I was, you know, not that it's all about distance,

1386
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:45.880
but I was hitting the ball thirty yards longer off

1387
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.520
the tee and straighter than I've ever hit the ball.

1388
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.159
But then what started happening is, you know, I try

1389
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.760
to hold the club pretty loose just because that kind

1390
01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:59.880
of you know, has helped me, not you know, help

1391
01:08:59.920 --> 01:09:01.800
me get rid of attention when I'm when I'm swinging.

1392
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.479
But I realized that I was regripping once I lost

1393
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.319
that sweat. It was because I was putting so much

1394
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:11.920
force coming down with I was regripping the club on

1395
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:16.479
the way now, and I actually had so I had

1396
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.279
I didn't think I could get along swing like that,

1397
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:26.359
and then I've abandoned it. So so tell me, tell me.

1398
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.319
That's why I asked you what you feel your backswing

1399
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.399
goes with? So typically if I if I feel I

1400
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.960
turned my shoulders, it comes a maximum spot that I

1401
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:40.680
can't turn them anymore in that right now, where are

1402
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:42.520
my hands when I do that? If my hands are

1403
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.880
only halfway up my waist, I'm going to swing short?

1404
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:49.039
Right? How to swing along? All I'm going to do

1405
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:50.159
is lift my arms up.

1406
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.800
You know, So that that may be what you were doing,

1407
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:55.520
But then you got rid of that after a while

1408
01:09:55.560 --> 01:10:04.760
because you literally would teach people to here's how I

1409
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:10.439
teach people to do a proper backswing sequence and long

1410
01:10:10.600 --> 01:10:14.800
enough with good enough turn that everything's coiled up basically,

1411
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.119
so step right foot pressure. If you push your feet

1412
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.560
into the ground, you create a stable base, and then

1413
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.520
what happens is your hips won't turn too early.

1414
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:26.000
So the worst thing.

1415
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.560
People do is slide off the ball or turn their

1416
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:31.920
hips too soon. Because if I turn my hips, what

1417
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:32.680
are my shoulders?

1418
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:34.399
Do? They turn as well? Right?

1419
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:37.399
They go with them, and to complete the swing, I

1420
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:41.199
have to lift, So I may only get sixty five

1421
01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:43.239
or seventy degrees a turn, even though I feel like

1422
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:47.439
I've turned like crazy correct because if I turn it

1423
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.199
early and then lift, I don't really get the shoulder

1424
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:53.520
turn I'm after. So what I get people to do

1425
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.279
is push the ground. Think about their core so that

1426
01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.840
you center your belly button. Think of the right side

1427
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:04.119
of view belly button moving like you like you start

1428
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:05.079
in a lawnmower, but.

1429
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:05.600
Not with your arm.

1430
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:08.239
Just that right side is can you see me here?

1431
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.000
That right side here is pulling that way. So what

1432
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:16.520
that does is it creates a one piece motion. Your

1433
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.680
arms won't just won't break arms arms are going to

1434
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.039
move with it because they're connected. What happens is when

1435
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:25.239
I do the core. See how my shoulders have not

1436
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.680
turned a lot yet, right, my hands.

1437
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:29.800
Are still all the way back here.

1438
01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:32.439
So now all I do is turn my shoulders and

1439
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:34.600
my arms lift up and they reach a point where

1440
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.079
they can't go any further. So people should use the

1441
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.880
ground and then their right side core for right hands

1442
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.319
obviously to get the initial takeaway. So it's almost like

1443
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.760
you don't turn here and then you turn the second

1444
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.199
party backswing. And why that's so good is generally what

1445
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:56.640
stops first on the backswing tries to start first on

1446
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.159
the down swing. So if I overturn and then lift

1447
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.960
stopped first. When I do that, my.

1448
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:03.399
Shoulders starts first.

1449
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:07.199
Yeah, my shoulders, right, yeah, so they're they're going to

1450
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.439
want to start down. Now if I do it the

1451
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:13.399
other way, if I go core and then shoulders, it

1452
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:17.560
feels like my shoulders kept going, So then I'll just

1453
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.119
start down that way and I'll slought it because my

1454
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.279
shoulders don't want to spin because they felt like they

1455
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:26.359
were completing the back swing rather than starting the backs.

1456
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.960
That's no, that's great, actually, that actually understand that completely.

1457
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.079
So that's you've got to have foot pressure to do it,

1458
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:35.239
because you need resistance in the ground to pull the

1459
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:37.399
core from and then to turn against.

1460
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:39.960
Now I'm not saying you've.

1461
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.199
Got to keep you right hip still. It will still turn,

1462
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.319
but I'm not trying to turn my hip. I'm basically

1463
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.000
my shoulder turn is now going to turn that hip

1464
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.439
a little bit, but it's not going to overturn. I'm

1465
01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:52.720
just going to get deeper into it so i'd feel

1466
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:55.600
all loaded on my right leg, which now I can

1467
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.720
start my downswing with rather than up here.

1468
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.720
Right, Okay, all right, I'm going to I'm maybe hit

1469
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.720
bars today even though it's fifty degrees, so I'm going

1470
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:05.520
to give it a shot.

1471
01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:08.399
It works, It works well.

1472
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.319
It's one piece take where you're not manipulating anything with

1473
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.800
your wrists or getting the club too far off plane.

1474
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.960
Not that that's a great big deal, but it's going

1475
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:20.960
to be pretty pretty even there. But just seeing whatever

1476
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.039
stops last, so when you feel your shoulders stopping last,

1477
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:26.119
they're not going to want to start first.

1478
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:31.399
Right, Okay, cool, thank you? That is like, this is

1479
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:32.760
a victory. I'm excited.

1480
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:38.800
So you're is that will That's an easy thing to

1481
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:43.000
remember and to keep doing because now remember every little

1482
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:46.279
swing change you make does have an effect on something,

1483
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.640
but right that won that'll only have a good effect

1484
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.239
because it's not going to make you do crazy things.

1485
01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:58.039
It's going to put you on the right path coming down. Okay,

1486
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.079
and foot pressure.

1487
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.439
All right, I'm working on the foot pressure and on

1488
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.079
the turn. Bradley, thank you so much for taking the

1489
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:09.479
time to do this. I really appreciate you it a lot.

1490
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.199
Hopefully everyone gets a good bars out of some of

1491
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.039
that and gets some great info that's going to help

1492
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:15.760
their game.

1493
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:17.760
And if not, come see me awesome.

1494
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:20.119
Yeah, while you tell everybody just quickly where you're at

1495
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:22.960
May You're Bradley hughesgolf dot com.

1496
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.199
That's what I do you want to So I'm based

1497
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:30.239
out in Greenville, South Carolina, and at Holytree Country Club.

1498
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:34.039
At the moment, our course is getting renovated, but the

1499
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.680
range is not, so I'll be there for lessons, short

1500
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:40.439
game putting, all that stuff. Just no on course stuff.

1501
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.079
But yeah, our weather's pretty good all year round. You'll

1502
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.640
find links to the lessons on my website bradleyhuesgolf dot com.

1503
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.640
And then if you liked what I talked about today,

1504
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:52.039
you'll find some more video work and talk about it

1505
01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:56.600
on Instagram, at Twitter x whatever it is, and they're

1506
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:58.960
all b Hughes Golf terrific.

1507
01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:00.880
Thank you so much, Bradley, appreciate it.

1508
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.279
You're welcome, look forward to watching and hope everyone had

1509
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:03.760
a good time.

1510
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:05.279
And thanks for asking me to be on.

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01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:06.239
Thank you.