Jan. 6, 2026

Letting Go of The Bad Shots

Letting Go of The Bad Shots
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GS#468 December 23, 2014 As we begin our 21st year of the Golf Smarter podcast, we go back to the episode that kicked off our 10th.  Jamie Zimron changes the conversation from the mental aspect of improvement to the physical. What's more important to a successful golf swing, lower body movement or upper body? Strength or flexibility?

If you have a question about whether or not Fred is using any of the methods, equipment or apps we’ve discussed, or if you’d like to share a comment about what you’ve heard in this or any other episode, please write because Fred will get back to you. Either write to golfsmarterpodcast@gmail.com or click on the Hey Fred button, at golfsmarter.com

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Hi.

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This is Mike Pokowitz, a golf instructor in Philadelphia, PA,

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and I coach at Five Iron Golf and Play Around Golf.

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This is golf Smarter.

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Golf Smarter number four hundred and seventy one, published on

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You have to take them on the golf course. I

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don't think you can teach that management standing on the

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driving range. What I would do is get that person

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on the golf course, stand on the tee and look

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down the fairway and have them tell me what's out there,

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What do they see? Where's the trouble? Where don't you

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want to go? And they'll convince themselves they say, well,

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it's all water down the right hand side. I definitely

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don't want to go there. So you get them to

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actually see a picture of the hole and where's the

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best place to play that and then start working on

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club selection. You know, this is a little tight driving hole.

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What club do you have the most confidence in it?

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You know, I really like my seven with Okay, so

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hit your seven with office teeth with the next shot

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and play get it inside one hundred yards to the

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green and then get it on the green to walk away.

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With bogie.

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Letting go of the bad shots with Tom Good.

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This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers

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and golf professionals to help blower your score. It's worked

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for your host, Fred Green.

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Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Tom.

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Hey, Fred, thanks for having me.

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Well, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for reaching

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out to me via LinkedIn. Nope, that's interesting how many

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people will do that. But I appreciate you doing that

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because there were a couple things in your introductory let

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that really stood out to me. That mostly which is

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that you teach golfers how to manage a golf course.

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And I think that is such an important part of

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the game that most people don't really get and I

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want to spend some time on that.

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Okay, that sounds good, but before.

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We do that, let's establish who you are, where you

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come from, what you're doing these days, and why in

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the fact, why in the heck that I'm talking to

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you today.

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Well, I'll tell you it's been kind of a long,

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fun journey for me. I've been in this business all

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my life, pretty much as a child.

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I grew up in it. I've played professionally.

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I've played in college, and when I ended up not

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being able to make the money I needed to make professionally,

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I figured I could probably teach the game better than

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I could play it, so I gravitated into teaching. In fact,

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I started my first lessons in nineteen seventy two at

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Lincoln Park Golf Course in San Francisco, and the last

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twenty two years I spent well, actually it's probably a

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little longer ago than that, twenty two years at Almonden

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Country Club as the director of instruction and head golf professional.

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And then four years ago I made a move to

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go strictly back into teaching full time at Center Bar

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Hills Golf Club in San Jose, where I'm the director

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of instruction.

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Very good.

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So, when you said you played professionally, tell me a

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little bit about that. That always is intriguing to me.

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Well, it was you know, I had worked in the

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club business for a little while as a young guy

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right out of college, and decided that I'd like to

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try to play the.

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Game for a living.

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So I did the whole deal of going through the

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tour school qualifying after working for about five years, you know,

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not playing a lot of competitive golf, and I went

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and missed the first stage of the tour school by

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one shot. So I thought, hey, you know, maybe let's

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pursue this. So I played mini tour golf in Arizona

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and around California for about two years, and I'll never

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forget my first first round as a professional. I shot

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sixty seven. I felt absolutely fantastic, and I went into

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the scoreboard and I was six shots behind the lead

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after one round.

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So one of the best rounds of your life. And

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it's like exactly, and you're not.

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Thinking, that's as boud as good as I can play,

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and I was six packs. So and that was quite

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a while ago. That was when everybody wasn't quite as

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good as they are today.

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So but I did play for a.

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While, and you know, then when kind of that kind

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of served its purpose, I got back into the club

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professional business and concentrating a lot on teaching. That was

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when I really decided that was what I wanted to do.

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And so I've been teaching pretty much off and on

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for forty years, the last thirty years exclusively teaching.

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So great, Great, I want to go back to that

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first round that you had when you were playing professionally.

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Is that one a three or four day tournament?

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It was, I, you know, my memories, that was quite

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a few years ago, but I believe they were three

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day tournaments at that time.

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Okay, So you know, it's so fun to watch recreational

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amateur golfers who get frustrated that they don't get better

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every single round, and they'll go out and shoot a

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eighty five and be ecstatic about it and think that

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they've got everything figured out. And the next day they'll

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go out and shoot a ninety seven and you know,

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it can range ten strokes on any given day. Do

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you happen to remember, you know, you shoot a sixty seven,

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you're stoked, you're pumped up, and then the next day

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do you have any recollection of how you did that?

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Yeah, I believe it was somewhere close to PARR. But

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I think what happens is you go out and shoot

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around like that. Then the next day you go back

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out and try to do the same thing.

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And as soon as you start trying to.

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Do something in this game, that's when you get into trouble.

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Oh please expand on that. That's really an interesting concept.

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It's when you try to do something exactly.

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And I kind of use the analogy a lot in teaching.

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When we get in on a car and drive down

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the road or down the street going to the store

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or wherever, we really don't think about the mechanics of

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driving the car. We don't think about getting in, fasten

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our seat belt, doing all those things that need to

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get us there. We just end up at our destination

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and sometimes you stop and wonder, oh, wow, here's my exit.

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I got to get off the road right here. Well,

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what happens a lot of times when you get on

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that golf course and you've.

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Just had a really good round.

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You go back to the course the next day and

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you say, now, what was I doing?

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You know, I think I was.

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I think I must have been turning really well, I

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was using my body well, and you start thinking about

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the mechanics of the golf swing rather than just playing

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the game, looking at the golf course and picking your

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target and.

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Just letting your swing work. What you've been teaching it.

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Are you telling me that we think too much when

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we're on the golf course.

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Oh?

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Probably got ninety nine percent of us do that.

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Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, you're just trying to figure out And

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I think as humans we have this tendency to always

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be trying to figure things out. Whether we've hit a

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bad shot, we try to figure.

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Out what we did wrong.

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Then when we hit a good shot, we try to

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figure out what we did.

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Well.

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Or you have a good shot and you think it's

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an anomaly and you're going, yeah, but I'm hitting bad

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shots today, and you keep focused on the bad shot exactly.

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Yeah, Well that good shot wasn't me. That was a mistake,

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you know.

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So I'm the guy that hits it out of bounds

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and left all the time, So right right, that was

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someone else in my body.

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Yeah. Where'd you play in college?

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I played at BYU Okay, very good.

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I played for a couple of years there and then

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went to work at my family golf course after that,

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and that was kind of when.

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I got into the business.

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At that time, wea a family golf course. So you

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said you were in at your entire life. What is

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a family golf course?

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My family, my father was a golf professional, and we

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grew up. I can remember as a kid ten eleven

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years old picking the driving range, doing all the work,

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washing the carts. So I've been in it pretty much

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all my life, which is I'm sixty three years old

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right now, so I've been around it a long time,

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seeing a.

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Lot, done a lot.

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Yeah, okay, all right. So now I'm thinking, you're a

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teenage boy. You're working in You're working for your family,

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You're driving the golf, you know, picking up balls off

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the driving range, and you're saying to yourself, I am not.

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Going to be in this business. This is ridiculous.

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I mean, were there times that you were going, Okay,

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this is not going to work for me, I'm going

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to be an accountant.

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Nope.

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Never never had that thought I was going to play

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I was going to play professionally. It was I think

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I've had maybe two other part time jobs in my

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entire life outside of golf, which were that was when

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I was in high school. I sold men's clothing for

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a while, and then I got a job one time

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for a fencing company, and I found out that I

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was the only they hired me because I had a

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driver's license. It wasn't anything about building fences.

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I could drive the truck, so you know, that was

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why I was about eighteen years old. So anyway, and

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that was it.

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Then from then on, it's been golf, all aspects of golf.

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Wow.

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Do you have siblings.

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I do.

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Did they go in the business as well?

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Or are they the ones that said I am not

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going to do this.

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Let's just say that they started in it. We were

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all in it one time, and they got smart and

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got out of it.

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Yeah, so you're the bad good right, the bad member

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of the good family.

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He Yeah, I had an older brother that went into

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the superintendent business, taking care of the golf courses rather.

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Than than being the golf professional. But yeah, we were

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all in it one time.

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That's awesome.

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At one point, all four of us, my father and

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my two brothers, we were all pros at the same time.

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So awesome.

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Well, that's great, great story, Thank you. Let's go back

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to us. Let's let's figure out what we're doing wrong here.

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And I love the idea of talking about thinking too

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much and and you know, I know that there's times

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where I'm playing well and I'll focus more on the

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fact that I'm feeling confident as opposed.

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To knowing what I did right.

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Okay, So because I I just you know, I hear

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so often and talk talking to so many instruction instructors

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that confidence is such a key to every shot.

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Tell me your thoughts on that.

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Well, I think, you know, confidence obviously is vital, but

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I kind of look at it like which which comes first,

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the confidence or the consistency of doing something. You know,

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in a routine where you're you're practicing the right things

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and you're practicing your tempo and all that, and then

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so you start hitting better shots, and then out of.

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Those better shots comes the confidence.

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So you know, it's you know what came first, the

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egg or the chicken, you know, So you have to

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have that consistency in the golf swing and be practicing

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the right things.

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To create the confidence.

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So and then once you feel that confidence on the

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golf course, the hardest part is just just trusting yourself

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and believing.

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In what you're doing.

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And also, I would think it's really important to understand

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and be at peace with yourself and knowing things happen

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out of your control, that there are going to be

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bad shots, there are going to be bad results to

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good shots.

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Exactly exactly.

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That's one of the things that it's really hard to

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work with younger players sometimes because.

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They're you know, they think they're.

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Immune to ever hitting a bad shot. So they could

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be really really good players, but.

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They, like you say, they bad.

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Shots are as much a part of the game as

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the good shots. And I would sometimes like to have

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people look at the golf courses. If you're playing an

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eighteen whole round, it's eighteen games and it's maybe going.

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Like going to Las Vegas. The house is going to

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win most of the holes, so you've got.

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To just kind of manage your mistakes and just realize

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that that's part of the game and the hole is

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going to beat you sometimes, so it's you know, you.

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Got to just roll with the punches and have amnesia.

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Let the bad shots go and focus on the next

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shot that you're looking at.

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How how do you have yeah, how do you get

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that amnesia where you know, how do you focus on

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the good and eliminate the negative and not overthink this?

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I mean, how do you teach that well.

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I think I think you've actually got to practice it.

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It's again, it goes back to what I mentioned there before,

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is that we're always trying to figure out what.

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We did wrong.

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And I just share a little story with you. One time,

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I a couple of years ago, I had a young

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high school kid come out and he was he was

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pretty pretty big kid. He came out very very quiet,

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wouldn't talk very much, and so I had him warm up,

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getting some nine irons, and so he hit the first

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nine iron abou one hundred and seventy yards absolutely.

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Perfect and seventy yards?

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Is that what you said?

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Really? Yes, that's exactly what I said.

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I watched the ball and I went I said, okay, Nathan,

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I said, is that a pretty normal nine iron?

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And he looked at me and goes mm hm.

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And so he had another one about exactly the same thing,

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land in the same spot. And so he hit five

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shots in a row that.

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Were within five to ten yards of each other.

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And I'm looking and I said, that is you know,

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I says, that's your normal nine iron and he's and

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again man of few words, he said mm hmm.

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So then he hit one.

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I hit about three inches behind it. Okay, hit this

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big chunker. So I said, so, Nathan, what happened there?

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And he looked at me like I was like an idiot.

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He looked at me, he said, well, I hit behind it.

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And I said, okay, go on, you know. So it

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wasn't why did I do that? Why did I hit

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behind it?

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He just accepted that he hit behind it and that

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was what it was. So he went on to the

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next shot and.

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Probably hit the next one one hundred and seventy yards.

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Yeah, he just hit it out there again.

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Right, So it's what we have to practice, is and

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I don't I don't think you can just go out

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there and say, okay, I'm you know, for every bad

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shot I hit today, I'm just going to forget it

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and go on to the next one, because that's not

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our human nature. It's something that you have to work at.

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It's something that you have to practice, and you can

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start practicing it on the driving range and it's really

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really hard to do, you know, to get out of

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our get that out of our mind, that got to

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hit that bad shot, and you've got to stay in

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the present. Okay, all right, that SHOT's gone, and you

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actually have.

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To talk yourself through that.

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You have to say, all right, miss that shot, all right,

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I'm moving on to the next one, and you start

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focusing on the next shot. And that's going to help

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you train yourself to get out of what you just did,

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because you know, there's so much time between shots on.

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The golf course.

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You're either waiting for the people that you're playing with

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or waiting for the group in front of it, and

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the whole time is you're thinking about that last shot

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you just hit. So I think you have to actually

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mentally and physically just say okay, I'm going to the

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next shot.

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I'm moving forward here. And it takes time. You might

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be able to do it for three or four holes.

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In around and then gradually the many the next time

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out you're able to kind of stay in that present

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for six holes. So it's just something that you have

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to work at. It's just like practicing the physical shots,

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you got to practice the mental park.

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We've talked so much on this show about outcome versus process.

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We never forget we had one called Nato, which was

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not attached to outcome. And I find that a lot

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of people get upset. People that I play with, they

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get upset with the result of where the ball landed

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versus their swing, their contact with the ball, and I,

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you know, I my friends kind of look at me like,

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what are you talking about? When I'll have a shot

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that I'm not happy with that, I'm more unhappy with

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the swing and with the contact than I am with

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the result the result. You know, once you know I

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can't do much about that. I can have a phenomenal

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drive and it ends up in a bunker. Why should

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I get upset about that? Right?

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Exactly?

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Take on the challenge of trying to get it out

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of the ball.

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Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh boy, this is exciting something different.

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That's why they you know, they put bunkers out there

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for a reason for people to hit into them. So

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you might as well just say, take on the challenge

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of being able to hit the bunker shot.

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And what cracks me up is that you'll play with

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someone who's played that course over and over and they go, God,

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I hit into the bunker every single time, and you

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just want to go, well, let's there's two things you

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can do here. One you can go from a different

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tea box maybe you're playing the wrong tea box, or

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two just try a different club this time. If you're

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going to do that every time, why are you taking

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the driver out every single time to do this?

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Are there other options that I missed?

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They hit right? You know it's I got two things

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I was thinking of.

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One one story college coach was talking to me the

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one time about one of his tail players was standing

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on a part three, one hundred and six bole water

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on the right, Arizona on the left, so there's tons

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of room on the left.

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Right.

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First ball goes in the water, right, second ball goes

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in the water right, So three free balls in a

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row into the water to the right of the green.

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You're under a coach and said what do I do?

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And the coach said, aim left.

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You know, if you keep making the same mistake, that's

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you know, you just you got to look at it

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and say God that that you know, you don't have

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to hit driver off every team. You don't have to

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hit three wood on every part five for your second shot.

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Just because it's a long waist from the green.

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But what you're trying to do is keep the golf

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ball in play and hit the club that you have

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the most confidence in.

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And you know, and I think another thing.

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Another mistake people make a lot is they don't play

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the way they hit the ball. So you know, if

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they'll stand on the range and they'll practice, and their

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driver ninety eight percent of the time has a left

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to right shape to it, sometimes more than others. Okay,

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So they stand up and they aim down the middle

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of the fairway and the ball slices into the trees

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on the right.

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Okay, so I know it, well, yeah.

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If you do it ninety percent of the time, So

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why don't you just aim down the left side and

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play the fade rather than trying to hit it straight,

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which you can't do right. So I think it's it's

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people have to understand their game.

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Know their game.

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Okay, if you're a twenty two handicap and you hit

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your ball off the tee one hundred and eighty five yards,

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but in your mind, you should be hitting at two

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hundred and thirty. So then you start trying to hit

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it two hundred and thirty yards and it goes further

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into the trees, further left, missing shots, Okay, rather than

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just playing your normal game, play what your your swing

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is it it's your perfect golf swing is what you create,

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not the one that's in Golf Digest or on Golf Channel.

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And you know, this is what the guys on the tour,

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this is the way they hit their drive. You know,

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use your perfect golf swing and play your own game.

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Is that something that you teach is that everyone has

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their own perfect golf swing or you try to recreate

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what you know Rory does.

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No, I absolutely I do not teach everybody a method.

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In other words, this is you come to see me.

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You're going to learn to swing the golf club this way.

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What I'm going to do is I'm going to see

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what you can do physically. You know where you are

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in the game, what you want to try to do.

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You know what are your goals and can you physically

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do some of the things that you read about or

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you know you have certain restrictions to your body, the flexibility,

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whatever it is. And you know I've played for forty years.

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I need to get better. I need to start hooking

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my driver rather than fading it. And I'm going to

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try to work with that person with what they've got bring.

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Bring to me your game, and we'll make your game

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better by by looking at where where are you mismanaging

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your game? You know, you stand out there and I

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can't hit the drivers. Okay, I'm hitting I hit my driver,

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you know bad all the time.

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Well, if you really analyze their game, their driver may.

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Not be that bad, but they just had forty seven

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putts in eighteen.

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Holes, you know.

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So it's not your driver, it's your putting. So you

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have to look at your game and analyze your game.

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Is that you know I'm horrible from fifty yards in.

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It takes me two shots to get it on the green,

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and then I can't get it close on the third shot.

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So you better start working on your short game.

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That That actually is what happened to me and was

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a huge made a huge difference in my game once

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I started focusing on my short.

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Game in and around the green.

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Is what is the most common problem that you come

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up with? Is it people don't know the distance they

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hit each club that they have. They think they're better

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than they are. What do you find not what people

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ask you like, I want more consistency, I want to

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hit the ball farther. What do you find is the

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most common amateur mistake that's going on that they don't

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recognize their making?

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Well, I think you.

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Know the first thing you said there was their distance.

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I think a lot of people really have a.

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Misconception of how far they actually hit the.

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Ball and how far you know, they they think the

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ball is going when it's really not.

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And then they're you know.

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They're always coming up short, or they're trying to hit

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the ball harder than they need to rather than playing

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within themselves. But I think it's a it's a misunderstanding

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of their of their true yardages.

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How do you get their ego to accept that.

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That's the problem.

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I think if I'm working with someone consistently, we're going

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to take them out on the golf course and put.

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Them at a certain yardage.

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It's it's sometimes really hard to see that actual yardage

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on the driving range, and then well it's a range ball.

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00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:47.599
It doesn't go as far as my regular ball that

492
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:49.880
I play, And then it's so I think the answer

493
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.000
to that is actually getting them on the golf course,

494
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.279
putting them at one hundred and thirty yards and having

495
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.079
them hit their nine iron and dump a twenty yards

496
00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.599
short in the bunker. Say, okay, so you're nine iron

497
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:01.759
really goes one hundred and ten.

498
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:03.279
No, it doesn't.

499
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.279
I really had no I hit it one thirty exactly exactly.

500
00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:09.599
Hit the ball.

501
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.319
I hit it one thirty once exactly.

502
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.599
It's that, Okay, I can't hit it one thirty and

503
00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:17.960
something happened.

504
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.400
But it's you know, that's not you know that. You know,

505
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:21.400
it's where you.

506
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.759
Hit the ball, where you hit it on the club

507
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.000
face and all that. So you've just got I think

508
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.720
it's just in coaching and teaching, you you've gone to

509
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:31.279
get that.

510
00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:35.079
Have the student gained the confidence, you know.

511
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.240
In their coach that that I'm there to help and

512
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:41.559
and and you know, they've just got to accept the

513
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:46.880
fact that that numbers don't lie, you know, and you

514
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.599
just have to convince them that if you you might

515
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.279
have to take them out two or three times and

516
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.839
show them that, hey, here's now, you can knock this

517
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.480
seven iron from one hundred and thirty yards. You can

518
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.319
knock it on the green, you know, eight out of

519
00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:58.400
nine times.

520
00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.880
And you're going to play better from there.

521
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.920
And you know, if they accept it, they accept it

522
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.279
and they go on to play better golf.

523
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.680
And if they don't, they just keep struggling.

524
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.279
This is a great lead in for something that we

525
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:10.359
talked about in the very beginning. And I do want

526
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.720
to get to it, and that is how to manage

527
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.759
your game on the golf course. And you said, you know,

528
00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:19.160
I'm sure this is just a start. When you put

529
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:20.960
the ball one hundred and thirty yards out and say,

530
00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:23.799
give give me your best shot. What does it mean

531
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.680
to teach someone to manage the golf course?

532
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.880
I think you have to you, first of all, start

533
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.599
with their game and their shot shape.

534
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.599
What kind of shots do you hit off the tee?

535
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.079
You know, how far do you hit it? And what

536
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:43.200
first you know?

537
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.519
So once they understand that, okay, I do play my ball.

538
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.079
Left to right, that's what I play.

539
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:51.680
Okay, then you actually you have to take them on

540
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.279
the golf course.

541
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:53.319
You can't.

542
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.240
I don't think you can teach that management standing on

543
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:59.599
the driving range. But then you what I would do

544
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:02.640
is get that person on the golf course, stand on

545
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:05.200
the tee and look down the fairway and have.

546
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.519
Them tell me what's out there? What do they see?

547
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:08.000
What you know?

548
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.759
What's where's the trouble? Where don't you want to go?

549
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:16.400
And let them tell themselves. They'll convince themselves. They say, well,

550
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.079
geeze the water, it's all water down the.

551
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:18.599
Right hand side.

552
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.079
I definitely don't want to go there. So you get

553
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.400
them to actually see a picture of the hole and

554
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.519
where's the best place to play that now? And then

555
00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:29.359
start working on club selection.

556
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.519
You know, where's your you know, this is.

557
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.759
A little tight driving hole. What club do you have

558
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.200
the most confidence in? You know, I really like my

559
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.240
seven wood? Okay, so hit your seven with off this

560
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.559
te put it in play, with the next shot in play,

561
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.599
get it inside one hundred yards to the green, and

562
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.519
then get it on the green to walk away with bogie.

563
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.759
You know. So you just I think you have to

564
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:50.319
show it to.

565
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:53.359
Them and prove them. Prove to them there's other ways

566
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:55.480
to play the golf rather than always hitting driver off

567
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.279
of par fours and par fives, and you.

568
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.839
Know, just understand.

569
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:04.279
How to back off a little bit, play more within themselves.

570
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.920
Yeah, yeah, And then the whole shot shape idea. There's

571
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.039
a natural shot shape that everybody has. But so often

572
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.079
I'll see middle handicappers and I'm talking, you know, fifteen

573
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.240
to what do you consider a middle handicap?

574
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.160
Probably fifteen to twenty two.

575
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:30.319
We're in there, all right, So somebody who's shooting high eighties, nineties, okay,

576
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.279
and they're out there and I've seen it so many

577
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:34.960
times it cracks me up. Say, all I need to

578
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.920
do is hit a slight draw here, and all I

579
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.559
need to do is hit it low.

580
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:39.720
And it's like.

581
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.480
I've admitted to myself, I don't know how to shape

582
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:44.000
my shots.

583
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.880
I don't know how. I don't have that many tools

584
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:48.559
in my bag.

585
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.480
If you will, that my ball has just a natural

586
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.079
fade to it.

587
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:55.599
And I've accepted.

588
00:26:55.079 --> 00:27:01.480
That my irons go farther right, farther right than I

589
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.799
want them to, and I'm working on that. But there's

590
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:09.160
so many people that these middle handicappers that are talk

591
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.160
about shaping their shots and talk about knowing what they

592
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.680
did wrong.

593
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.559
I lifted my.

594
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:19.839
Head, but really, yeah again, but it's like you really

595
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.680
should people be trying to shape their shots if they're

596
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:24.119
not a single digit handicap.

597
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:27.319
I don't think so.

598
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.880
I mean I think if you're you know, and I'll

599
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.000
if I really feel.

600
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.000
Confident with my students, you.

601
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:39.119
Know, and they're and they're talking about, you know, shaping

602
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.039
shots and doing this, I said, if you want to.

603
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.599
Do that, you got to get a lower handicap, you know.

604
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.680
So yeah, I think, you know, if if people who

605
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:53.279
are averaged to higher handicaps, just trust themselves to play.

606
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.440
What again, their perfect golf swing gives them When they're

607
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.680
swinging right, man, it's a little left to right boom

608
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.359
that goes right in the fairway every time.

609
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:02.640
I'm never out of the fairway.

610
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.480
And you know, they're just going to play so much

611
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.160
better and have so much more fun.

612
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.000
But I think we're in this.

613
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.680
You know, you've got Golf Channel now and you watch

614
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.799
you watch any of the tournaments on TV, and this

615
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:16.440
whole Okay, he's got to hit it out there right,

616
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.000
he's got to bring it in right to left here,

617
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.759
and they talk about this. So as a human, we're

618
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.519
out there and we're thinking, man, okay, I'm going.

619
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:25.599
To hook this ball. Well, they don't have.

620
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.079
First of all, they don't know how to hook it.

621
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.160
They don't know how to do that, okay, but they're

622
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.680
trying it on the golf course. So if they want

623
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.440
to start learning how to work the ball, they've got

624
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.720
to do it on the driving range. And most of

625
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:41.480
the time, no one ever practices shaping shots or trying

626
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.039
to make a ball go right to left, So they

627
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.000
have no idea how to do it, and they don't

628
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.799
know if they can. So then they're trying it on

629
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.599
the golf course and it ends up into a triple

630
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.640
bow gear or quadruple bogue or something like that because

631
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.759
they they got a shot there trying that they've never

632
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.680
hit in their life.

633
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.279
It brings out I'm going to go a little sidetrack here,

634
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.440
because this came up in my round the other day

635
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.559
with a friend of mine and we were talking about, uh,

636
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:12.400
fade versus slice or a draw versus a hook, right,

637
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:16.599
I mean so like so a slice is an exaggerated fade.

638
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.680
Correct. Correct, It's a left to right.

639
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.720
It's a left to right shape and usually starts left

640
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.599
of the target ends.

641
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.319
Up right of the target.

642
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.000
Is this is a slice?

643
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.319
That's a slice, Okay? And a fade A fade, A

644
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:28.880
lot of fade.

645
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.680
A lot of times will be just it's a it's

646
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.279
a a softer curve maybe starting at the target and

647
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.559
then just drifting off to the right.

648
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.559
Okay, and then going that's left to right, now going

649
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:41.319
right to left.

650
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:46.119
We have go ahead, you got the you got a hook, okay, hook,

651
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.920
big big curve right to left. Usually you know, I

652
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.079
think most hooks kind of start at the.

653
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.160
Target in a.

654
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.440
Curve way left or just a slight draw, it's usually

655
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.920
a little higher shot drops softly down left.

656
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:03.279
Of the target.

657
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.720
And a cut. What's a cut?

658
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.480
That's that's where this conversation led the other day. We

659
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.839
were like, that's a cut. Well, I don't know what's

660
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:11.279
a cut?

661
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.759
Okay, A cut is is more it's it's kind of

662
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.000
an intentional slice where you never release the golf club,

663
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:20.839
you hold on really if you're a right hand or

664
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.680
you hold on really firm with your left and you

665
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.599
actually try to hit the ball left with a with

666
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.240
a h swing path that comes across the ball and

667
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.000
puts dramatic left to right spin on the.

668
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.720
Ball, and going the opposite way would be called.

669
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.960
What a pole hook right to left and kind of

670
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:43.119
a pole.

671
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.400
Draw where you're actually but that's an intentionally.

672
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.480
That's intentional where you're really trying to close the club

673
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.240
face over the ball, keep it low and get it

674
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.240
going around a tree left or something like that.

675
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:53.240
Is it dangerous for us?

676
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.640
I watched tournaments on TV and listen to these guys

677
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.720
because then we walk out going okay, I got.

678
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:01.880
It, yeah, because I think the I'll probably get in

679
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:03.480
trouble here to tell you, I think they talked too

680
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.079
much instead of just letting us watch the tournament and uh,

681
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.759
you know, they're they're just you know. And the one

682
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.079
I love when the golf tournament tournaments is when he's

683
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:13.960
got no chance here to get this up and down.

684
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:14.960
He's in the deep rough.

685
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.440
He's got it here, he's got green sloping away from me,

686
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:18.960
water on the other side, and the guy.

687
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.440
Hits it up two feet Well okay, well, okay.

688
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.799
Right in my wildest dream.

689
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:32.640
Yeah, But you know, I think most slices, and I

690
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.200
see this so much for for I'm kind of talking

691
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:39.319
right handed player here, but most most slices come when

692
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:44.039
the player is trying to hit the ball straight. And

693
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.240
I guarantee that everybody that's gone down to the range

694
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.480
to practice, they're trying to hit the ball straight.

695
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.480
And you should not try to hit the ball straight.

696
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.079
I don't think so. I think it's the hardest shot

697
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:55.680
in golf to hit.

698
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:56.440
Really.

699
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.960
If if you if you take okay, just picture and iron,

700
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.039
you know anything, seven iron, six iron.

701
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.160
Okay, the face is flat, the ball.

702
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.440
Is round, and if you look at the contact point

703
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.359
between the ball and the club face, you know there's

704
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:12.960
not a lot of.

705
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.160
Room for error there. So as soon as you start.

706
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.240
Trying to guide that ball straight, you get tension in

707
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:22.279
your hands. You're trying, you're trying to to keep the

708
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.440
golf club going straight at the target rather than letting

709
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.240
it release naturally. And if you happen to line it

710
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.599
up with good timing, the ball goes relatively straight, but

711
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.559
it's much easier to curve the ball one way or

712
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:33.839
the other.

713
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.400
Hey, you know what, we're out of time, So here's

714
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.000
what I'd like to do. Can you hang around so

715
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:46.920
we can have a continue this conversation. We'll do part two. Sure, awesome, absolutely, okay,

716
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.160
but before you go, please tell me if people want

717
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.119
to get in touch with you.

718
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:52.480
Do you have a website?

719
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.799
What's the best way If they're living in the South

720
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.640
Bay of the Bay Area and they want some lessons,

721
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.839
or if they want to they've enjoyed this conversation, they

722
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.000
want to travel to meet you and work with you,

723
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.440
how's the best way to get in touch with you.

724
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.920
My website is Tom Goood g o D one word

725
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.640
at the Good Golf Connection dot com.

726
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:17.519
That's your email.

727
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:19.039
I'm sorry, A right, sorry, and that's my I'm sorry,

728
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.200
that's my email. See huh, San Jose golf lessons.

729
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.799
Okay, wait it's Tom Tom What wait.

730
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:27.200
I'm talking way too fast here.

731
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.799
That's okay, I do that all the time. Okay, not

732
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:30.559
a problem.

733
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.160
So I just gave you my email, okay, that which

734
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.480
is Tom Good at what.

735
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.880
The at the Good Golf Connection.

736
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.200
Good Golf Connection okay dot com dot com.

737
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.559
That's your email, all right?

738
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:45.039
Right?

739
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:51.720
Phone number four zero eight four six zero eight zero

740
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.160
two five.

741
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.400
Okay, good. And do you have a website?

742
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:57.680
I I do.

743
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:02.000
I'm going to give you it's it's San Jose, San

744
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:09.960
hyphen Jose hyphen golf dot all right, I'm sorry, hyphen

745
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.400
again lessons dot com.

746
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.920
Should I be interviewing your wife, sir Sam?

747
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:18.559
All right?

748
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:18.920
I have.

749
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.639
I have about three three websites, and I never get

750
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.480
the right one going because you wanted to if you

751
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:26.920
wanted to.

752
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.280
Go to another.

753
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.519
It was golf MDS dot com slash Tom Good golf

754
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.880
MDS okay, uh slash.

755
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.199
Tom Tom golf MDS dot com.

756
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.920
Okay dot com lash slash Tom Good Okay, slash Tom Good.

757
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:44.719
All right.

758
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.639
That's that's in my calendar and the whole thing and

759
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:47.639
some other information on there.

760
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:48.039
That's great.

761
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:49.800
So I need to ask you more about that when

762
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.320
we got for our next show. All right, well, thank

763
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.480
you so much for your time, and I really appreciate

764
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:55.920
you agreeing to do part.

765
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.519
Two of this, and I hope you're enjoying talk to this.

766
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:07.320
I'm gon enjoin me. Thanks for letting me babble. Mhm