March 6, 2026

The Single Pivot Swing - In Detail with Tony Manzoni (RIP)

The Single Pivot Swing - In Detail with Tony Manzoni (RIP)
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GS#254 Oct 26,2010 Tony Manzoni (RIP) returned for his second appearance on Golf Smarter by popular demand to provide details on his "Single Pivot Swing" which he believes was Ben Hogan's secret that was never revealed. A PGA instructor since 1965, Tony spent years studying Hogan's swing and breaks down the details in this interview. This was originally a Members’ Only episode not released to the public.

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Hi, This is Fred Green from the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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This is part two of our extended series with Tony Manzoni,

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who passed away in twenty eighteen. Even if you've heard

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these episodes in the past, it's a great reminder to

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reiterate Tony's teaching methods that he communicates so effectively and

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based on your feedback, works incredibly well. What we're doing

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differently this year versus what we've done the last few

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years is that I'm replaying these episodes in the dated

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order they were originally published. Tony's book The Loss Fundamental,

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One Simple Move Better Golf Forever is once again available

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on Amazon, including the Kindle format, and his video of

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the same name can now only be seen online. If

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you'd like to gain access, please write directly to me

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at golf Smarter podcast at gmail dot com or click

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on the Heyfred button at golfsmarter dot com. To find

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out more. Please visit Golfsmarter dot com. Thanks so much

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for your support and enjoy.

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For members only.

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Golf Smarter number two fifty four recorded on October twenty six,

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twenty ten, The Single Pivot Swing in detail with Tony Manzoni.

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This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers

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and golf professionals to help lower your score.

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It's worked for your host, Fred Green.

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Welcome and thanks for downloading the Golf Smarter Podcast. A

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few episodes ago, we had a conversation with Tony Manzoni,

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who claimed to have unearthed the secret to Ben Hogan's

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golf swing. Tony calls it the single pivot swing, and

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he'll soon be opening this Single Pivot Academy down in

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Palm Desert, California, where he coaches and teaches at College

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of the Desert. Well after that podcast, not only did

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Tony get a number of calls requesting a coaching session,

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I received many emails wanting more in depth information. So

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I called him and luckily we caught Tony before he

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left the country for meetings in China, and he was

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more than willing to discuss his theories in detail.

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Welcome back to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Tony, Hey, how are you today.

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I'm doing well and I'm so glad that we caught you.

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I understand you're going to be leaving the country any.

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Minute, right, Yeah, I'm going to China and meet with

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some government officials about doing some golf courses there and

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also created some golf schools and kind of tied into

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what we're doing with golf illustrated here at College of

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the Desert.

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Wow, that's very exciting.

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It is, and it's my first trip to Asia, and

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I'm so excited about going to China because right now

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I think that's a hotspot for all the golf activity

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in the world.

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One of my business acted We're not just golf, yeah.

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Oh yeah, everything everything, and golf is kind of the

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criteria for people that are working in various industries to

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do business. In my golf management program, I get a

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lot of boys from Korea and China that have been

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sent here by employers so that they get some form

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of knowledge about the management of golf courses and then

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also a little bit about teaching, but primarily to get

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their skills up so that they can play golf and

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do business on the golf course.

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Very interesting. Well, and part of your College of the

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Desert program is golf management.

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Correct, that's correct, Yes, that's correct, Very very good.

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So when you were on the show and we had

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you talking about shot Watch and among other things, but

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we wanted to talk about your single pivot swing, and

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I've got to ask you a couple questions about it,

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and you were kind of vague about it, which was okay,

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but I was inundated with emails and phone calls from

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listeners around the world saying.

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Wait a minute, I want more.

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You tease this as Ben Hogan's secret, and you really

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didn't even talk about it. So it's not much that

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I would call some back and say, hey, can you

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do a second episode, you know, in a couple of weeks.

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Usually we'll do long interview and cut into two, but

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this time we had to call you back and get

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you to talk more about the single pivot swing.

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I hope you well, I can do that. I can

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do that for you because it's really a passion of mine,

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and I think we've kind of got a ground swell

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moving right now with this thing. When I came up

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with the method, through years of research and especially watching

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Ben Hogan, I wasn't sure myself, because when you're thinking

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a little bit out of the box as an instructor,

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there's always a question, well, you know, have I flipped

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my wig here or have I really found something? And

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it took a while for me to realize that this

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is valid, this is what Hogan did, because there's been

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a lot of people saying they knew what he did,

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and I think this is an aspect to it. I'm

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not sure it's everything he did, but I know that

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I know that in watching some of the film that

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I have of him, especially in this later year, this

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is exactly what he did. Wow.

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All right, Well, and one of the comments that I

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received was, I can't believe he doesn't have a website,

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not even a simple one.

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So you need to explain this.

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And it's like, well, I'm finishing a book with a

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gentleman by the name of Paul Servantis, who's a very

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very fine co writer. Uh, and I speak in a

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certain way, so he's tried to keep that flavor in

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the book without editing me out of it. And so

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Paul does have a website that he's building at this

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present time, and we will have a lot of information.

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And then Golf Illustrated, because I'm working with them with

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a single pivot golf school. They have the Golf Illustrated

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has just gone online and they have a pretty large website,

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and we're going to be doing kind of golf viignettes

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that we'll be putting on there myself, Al Geiberger, Mike Lyons,

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and Brian Geiberger. That's the for some of us, and

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also a young lady by the name of Karen Gottwald

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who's our female instructor about to single pivot, how you

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have to set up to it, because setup is really

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important in making this happen. What we're eliminating in the

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single pivot golf swing is we're eliminating the lateral move,

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the shifts from the right leg to the left leg.

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And it's not an invention. There have been many great

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players that played off the left side, but no one

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has ever really explained it in detail how you do

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it and what are the functions and so forth. So

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that's what that's what my role has come has happened,

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is that I've I've watched this and of course I

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give lessons to a lot of people, especially elderly people,

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and now that this doesn't work for young people because

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my golf team are all you know, they all kill

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the ball and they're all playing off of one axis.

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But I saw that older people people that always said

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I can't get over the left side, I can't finish

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the swing anymore. I can't get any distance. I've increased

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their distance just two to three clubs by just putting

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them in the right position, by setting them to the

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ball correctly, and then keeping them there throughout the motion

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so that there's not a lot of weight on the

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right side, so they can clear their left side. They

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can turn their chest left of the target and get

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the right shoulder pointing at the target. And while they

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do that, the left arm stack is connected high on

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the chest. And that's the secret of this. It's playing

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off of one axis. Now we're not tilting the shoulders,

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so this is not stack and tilt. And I don't

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mean to infer that what they do is wrong. I

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don't like to get into those things. But you can't

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hurt your back doing this. When you're tilting your shoulders,

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especially on the through swing, you're going to end up

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in what we used to call a sea position, and

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there's a little bit of strain on the lower back.

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And all the people that played from that era that

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finished with the head back and the body kind of

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in a sea position, they all were troubled with their

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back in later years. And Hogan, if you see any

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pictures of him, he posts it up so that he

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was on a straight line because he didn't work that way.

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He didn't work down and under to hit the golf ball.

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When you do that, you have to turn your arms over.

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There's two ways to square the golf club. You can

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turn your arms over and hit it, or you can

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rotate your body and keep your arm connected to your

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body like it's a lever connected to a gear. So

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when you set up to the golf ball, the first

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thing you're going to do is you're going to set

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up sixty forty sixty percent of your weight on your

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left foot and forty percent on your right. And why

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you're doing that is because you're aligning your left hip

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to the outside of your left foot, and that's impact.

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Is when we hit the golf ball, whether we sway

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off the ball and come back to it, that's where

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we're going to end up. But with this concept, we're

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going to get against impact to start with. So we've

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positioned the legs in the proper position, and now all

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we have to do is rotate the upper part of

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the body and we're gonna coil the body without moving

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that center, and that's our head we're going to stay.

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Our face will be right down on the golf ball. Okay,

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So the right shoulder and the right hip are going

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to turn behind us, and that's going to pull the

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arm around the body with the rotation.

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So I'm going to stop you for a second here

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because as you're describing this, not only am I trying

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to do this, I'm standing up, I got a club

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in my hand.

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I'm doing this.

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I'm sure there are people who listeners right now who

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are on a commute train standing there doing this with So,

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so let me just let me just kind of visualize this.

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So when I'm bringing my hands back, I'm not bringing

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my hands up. I'm bringing my hands more.

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You're you're not well, yeah, but you're not bringing your

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hands back. Your arms are connected to your body and

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you're turning your You're turning your upper torso, and your

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arms are being moved to a position behind you. The

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arms are in front of you, okay, and they're going

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to stay in front of you in the addressed position.

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But as your body, as your body is rotating, it's

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it's turning, it's turning around. The right shoulder is now

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being displaced behind the spine, and the right hip is

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being displaced behind the so your right side is turning.

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There's no there's no lateral move back. There's no there's

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no sway back to low power. You're coiling. Imagine a

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wall against your right shoulder. Okay, you're going to turn

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inside that wall with your right side, and that movement

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will take the club back into a position. And everybody

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is different because we are all built differently. Some people

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have a lot of flexibility, some don't. Some are short waists,

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some are long legged. So there's no position you can

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say you have to take the club here. So by

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connecting the arms slightly on top of the body at address,

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we from a single axis, which is the left leg,

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and we we stay against that brace, almost the feeling

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of there's an imaginary wall on your left side. Okay.

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So now from that position, you're going to coil the

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upper body staying centered. Okay, so when we coil, we're

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not going to tilt our head to the right. We're

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going to stay right on that ball. So the right shoulder,

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right hip go behind us, and the club, the arms

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will follow. The left ear was going to go across

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the chest. This is a big this is the big key.

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It's going to go across the chest, and the left

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arm should sit fairly high on the left pectoral muscle. Okay.

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Years ago, there was a great player by the name

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of Dick Mayer. He won the US Open, the World Open.

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I had a little problems with alcohol in his later years.

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And I met him and he used to watch me

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hit balls, and he used to say, son, you've got

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to keep your left arm on your tit and he

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meant the nipple. Okay. And and he wrote a book

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subsequent to that that gerald Ford was in the gerald

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Ford Library. He gave me the book, and in that

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book it says that everybody has an area in the

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body that defines where the left arm should be in

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that'sh the left arm should be right above that nipple

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of the on the man on the left pectoral muscle. Okay.

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And he would watch me hit balls and say, you

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got to keep your arm up on your tit. And

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I used to think this guy's whacked out because I

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had no idea what he was talking about, until I

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learned that that was position is paramount to hitting the

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ball solid and straight, time after time after time, because

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when the left arm stays high in the chest, the

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only way it can move because it's connected to the body.

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Is the rotation of the body opening up through the target,

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kind of like if you've ever seen Anika Sorenson play,

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Anika was very It was a real rotator of the

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golf swing, and it looked like her body was facing

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the target at impact. And that's exactly what it was.

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So if people in the audience would stand up, if

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they can do this and put their arm right across

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their body and then take their right arm and hold

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their left arm high against the chest, and then just

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turn the body and see how the arm moves with it.

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It's not coming off the chest, it's still pressed against it.

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But if you keep turning left, the club will square itself.

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Now, you talk about seniors being able to do this,

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what kind of to me? The way you're describing this

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In this rotation, it seems like a lot of flexibility

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is required.

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I mean you have, Oh, no, none at all. I'm

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believing I'm about as flexible as a solid pretzel. I

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can't touch my toes. Okay, I'm lucky if I can

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get past my knees when I bend over. But I

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can do this, Oh yeah, I can do this. Hey,

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I'm seventy four years old. You know an atrophy is

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snuck in there somewhere. Now. I try to stay as

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limber as I can, but really I'm not going to yoga,

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I'm not doing stretching. But what I found is that

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all all, if you put your arms across your chest

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like you see guys criss cross their arms, and you

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get in swinging position, you set yourself off against the

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left side brace and just turn the top part. You're

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going to turn it enough to where your back is

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to the target. Even less than that is fine, okay,

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But if you're turning your right side behind you, this

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is the ticket. If you try to turn your left

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shold over to your chin, it's harder to do if

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you take your right side and pull it back behind

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behind you towards the target. That's the keyword, towards the target.

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Because at the top of your swing, your weight is

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now seventy thirty. You're braced against that wall and on

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your left.

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Side, the seventy being on the left side.

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Left side you started sixty forty. Because you're displacing your

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weight behind you and it's going behind you towards the target.

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You have now braced up seventy thirty. The left knee

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has not pulled back from the ball or pulled back

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to go towards the ball or behind it. The left

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knee is pointed straight to the toe of the left foot.

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Okay, rotation in your rotation, your your knee has pointed

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to your foot. You're not banking your knee on that rotation.

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Well, you're You're both knees are bent. Okay, I'm because

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I'm trying to talk you through this. Okay. As I

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as I turn my right pocket and my right shoulder

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behind me, okay, towards my left heel towards my left heel.

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As I do that, my left knee points towards my toe.

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Should on your left.

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Left foot, left foot, the right leg will elongate, it'll

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get it won't lock, but it'll get. It'll get steeper. Okay.

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So now you're now you're braced on your axis that

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you're going to swing around. Okay, So you're there. Okay,

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Now all we're all we're doing is we've coiled the

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top part of the body. Our legs are in position.

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So now all there is left by staying connected high

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on the pectoral muscle. Okay, we just unwind our chest

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through the target around the left leg, and we finished

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with the chest pointing left of the target and the

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right should're pointing at the target. And trust me when

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I tell you I have a I've got an eighty

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six year old man that when he first came to

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me and he took the club back, he looked like

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a tree falling to the right. He had no conception

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of turn. I've got him on his left side now

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and he's hitting the ball farther now than he did

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when he was in his fifties because he's hitting it

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with his whole body. He's not working down under so

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that his arms have to flip over so that the

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arms leave the body. He's hitting it with his chest,

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his core, his hips, and the last thing through is

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the clubhead, so as his body unwinds, the clubhead hits

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the ball. Now, if you're on the right side and

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you try to do this, you're gonna you're gonna spin

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out open. You're gonna spin open, but you can't get

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open enough. When you're on your left side. As you

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as you start unwinding, you can open up as early

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as you want, and you're just gonna hit the ball harder. Okay, Now,

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Now the key here, the key as we do this

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is that the left arm must stay on the chest

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as you open. Okay, So you're gonna be turning level.

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You are not gonna work be working down. You're gonna

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stay level like Hogan did in his later years, and

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you're gonna smash the ball. And the by product of

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this is that whether you pull it or push it,

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and we will do that for our life, no one's

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going to hit it dead straight at the pin every time.

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They're gonna push it a little right, but there'll be

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no side spin on the ball because the club the

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clubhead is held square throughout the heating area. There's no

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rotation to square it. It's square from the beginning to

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the end. Okay, So you'll pull it or push it

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dead straight. So your your shot dispersion is going to

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get real narrow, real narrows. So you're going to start hitting.

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You're gonna hit a lot of greens and a lot

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of fairways, and you're going to hit the ball much

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more solid, which will make your average hit further. See

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you when we move off the golf ball. And it's

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a trend in teaching. At one time, the Nicholas's the Palmers,

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they stayed right on the ball their head and did

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not move. It didn't move because they didn't make that

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little lateral move on the backswing. And then all of

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a sudden, instructures start saying it's okay to move your head,

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and I'm here to tell you that's a bunch of bs.

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It isn't okay to move your head because you got

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to move it back to the place you started, because

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that's your center before you hit the golf ball. And

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you know, unless you're neurria of or somebody like that,

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how do you do that, especially when you get past fifty.

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So that's why so many people. You know, we have

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a driving rain chair at the college and you see

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people and they're just locked back on that right foot.

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The ball goes right and their instructor says, will shift

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your weight. Well, that's that's the problem. They did shift

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their weight. They put too much weight on the right

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foot early. Yeah, once you get back on that right

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side unless you unless you have an athletic body. And

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even the athletic guys that are arm swingers every now

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and then, they're all all over the place. I mean,

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you look at Dustin Johnson, a tremendous athlete, tremendous strength.

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He can hit the ball two miles, but every now

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and then he can hit it so far off the

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Fairwey Mickelson another arms swinging around the downswing. But you

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can see it when the when the arms come down,

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the body can't. The body can't rotate and the arms

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come down at the same time. One. So if the

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body doesn't, if the arms come down, the body is

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going to follow the arms when they when the when

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you're a rotator, the arms always follow the body. And

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and and because you're not turning the club over, the

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clubhead isn't going to be opened a long time, closed

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a long time, and square for just a moment. So

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now you're you're eliminating one of the things that happens

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to all of us as soon as you get anxious,

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as soon it means something. You know, our eye hand

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coordination runs down our leg I mean that, I don't

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care who it is. Uh. You saw Dustin Johnson in

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that one tournament where he stood in a bunker. Well,

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he didn't have to be in that bucker if he

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could have just hit the ball in the far away.

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But because he's he has to square that club with

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his arms. As soon as it gets really important, you're

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gonna you're just you're gonna hang on or you're going

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to release it too early. See. And that's what Hogan,

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that's what he really figured out. And in his later

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years he made statements, I square the golf club with

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my body. Okay, well that's how. But he didn't tell

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you how to do it. That's what the single pit

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was school and concept is about. It tells you how

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to do it. And I want to tell you. Uh

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and I don't mean to brag, but I am going

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to brag. Since I've been teaching. Yes, since I've been

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teaching this, I have had nothing but repeat business and

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nothing but referral business, and people tell sending me emails

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and tell me I never hit the ball like this.

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I haven't hit it like this since I was a kid.

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Blah blah blah blah blah. And it works. I've got

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al Geiberger, who's a pretty good golfer in his day,

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doing this. Okay. Al geiber was voted as having the

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top one of the top swings of the top five

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best wings and he is now a single pivot player. Okay,

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I have a terrific teacher from Canada that was reluctant

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to this at first, although he tried to stay centered

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to the ball, But once he got all the pieces together,

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his following now is expanded tremendously because you get instant results.

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I know, one of the guys that heard your podcast

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came down to see me. Really yeah, oh yeah, I've

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had two actually I had two lessons, and there one

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young man. He said, great to hear, thank you. Yeah,

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And what do you shoot? He says, well, I'm about

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a twenty handicap. So I said, well, I hit a

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few balls from me, and then immediately I saw he had

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his hands out of position and he's just swinging back

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on the golf ball and with no power. And then

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here he's in this probably early thirties and well built guy,

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and here I'm this over the hill pro and I

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get up there with a nine iron and I'm hitting

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the past where he's hitting the seven, and I mean

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way past. And he's where you getting on all that power?

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And I said, because you're hitting it with your flick

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of your wrists and I'm hitting it with my whole body.

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And I got him in position, and I'll tell you

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after about the fifteenth golf ball, he was blasting the others.

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I've never hit a ball this far in.

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My life, the chilly.

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Believe me when I tell you, it gives me the chills,

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because my passion is teaching, and I'm you know, we

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all want to make money, but I promise you this

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is this is like an elixir for me because I

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finally found something that really works for I don't care

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what level player, and I've got some I've got some kids.

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I've got a twelve year old, and I'm going to

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give a plane lesson too. She's had six lessons, and

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she hits it so far and so straight, it's just ridiculous.

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But she's she's blessed. But she's also she's also lucky

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that she got a fellow like me that didn't teach

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her shift to the right, shift to the left, because

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she'd be chasing that monkey for a long long time.

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Well, I'll tell you, my passion is finding people like

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you to share this knowledge. So I'm glad that we've

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found each other.

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Now.

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I received an email from a listener in Joplin, Missouri,

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and he had a number of questions. He says that

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I just finished it, and I had a lot of questions.

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Instead of writing to you, he thought he'd write to

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me so that maybe I can ask you again. And

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you mentioned a couple of times about Hogan's later year

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later years. He was just curious, is that the is

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those later years? Is that after he wrote the Five Lessons?

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Oh yeah, way after.

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Way after, Okay.

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So he says that he's intrigued by what you're describing

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and he's read Hogan's Five Lessons and it really didn't

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help him as much as it would he would like.

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He wants to well, if you listen, if you read

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the Hogans, there's a lot of really great stuff in

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Hogan's but what he says in there, and you know,

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I mean they asked him near his death because he

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went to Golf Digest in the nineties to release a secret,

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but he wanted a six figure payment and they refused,

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and so I think he took it to the grave

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with him. But they asked him in his later years, well,

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what was your secret? What really was it? Because there's

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been a lot of speculation, and he said, they're going

471
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:26.839
to have to dig it out of the dirt like

472
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.920
I did. And I just love him for that because

473
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.440
he had no gruz, he had no real video and

474
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:33.920
nothing to work with. He had to get out there

475
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.799
and just beat balls. But he got an idea in

476
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.079
a dream state. And I know what that I really

477
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.160
believe I know what that idea was. And it wasn't

478
00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:46.279
weakening his grip and all that pronation and suppornation stuff.

479
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.480
I mean, he may have done that, but I've got

480
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:50.319
film and you can look at him at the top

481
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.160
of his swing, and his weight is on top of

482
00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.839
his left side. His right leg is so steep and

483
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.319
so braced, and you can see he's right there ready

484
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:02.839
to rotate. So he eliminated that transitional move that I

485
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:04.759
don't care who you are, whether you're a tour player

486
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:08.240
or a high handicapped player, it's difficult. You've got to

487
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.920
move laterally onto the left foot and then rotate, and

488
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.319
you have to time that rotation in a split second

489
00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.799
when that club is really really moving. And for some

490
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.519
of these young guys that hit three or four ferris

491
00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.160
then blowing out of bounds right or left and never

492
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:27.519
knowing what they know what I'm talking about because I

493
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.160
was one of those guys. When I was a young man,

494
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:31.279
I was a very good player. But every time I

495
00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:36.200
got into a tour event one hole or two holes,

496
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.720
I'd hit the ball left and it'd be out of

497
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.559
bounds or into some real trouble where I ran my

498
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.160
score up, and I always thought, well, I just don't

499
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.839
have it. And I just want to pass this information

500
00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:49.480
onto people, for those young people that are out there

501
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.839
that really want to play this game. You've got to

502
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:54.519
be connected and rotate that body so that you can

503
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.160
control that clubhead. You have to know where that club

504
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:59.680
head is through impact. If you're just guessing and hoping,

505
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.319
you you got a long road and a rough road

506
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:02.839
to go through.

507
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.960
Well, you had mentioned the word coordinate, and I'm wondering

508
00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.440
what it. What kind of I guess coordination is the

509
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:13.200
word that I'm looking for. Does it take a lot

510
00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:15.799
of good hand eye coordination? Does a lot of work

511
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.079
to get that coordination together to hit it, to get

512
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.039
it at that right spot.

513
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:21.400
If you're going to hit the ball with your hands

514
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:23.359
and arms, if you're going to rotate your arms hit

515
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.119
the golf ball, you better have really good coordination. And

516
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.079
then you better practice every single day for a long

517
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.119
time because you can lose it immediately and you're going

518
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.960
to lose it when you get anxious anyway. But if

519
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.079
you're if you're scoring the club with the rotation of

520
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.279
your big muscles, your your big muscles, your shoulders and

521
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:43.200
chests really can't rotate on a lot of different planes.

522
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.759
Your hands and wrists are much more appliable. They can

523
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.240
they can flip over and flop and hang on and

524
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.640
so forth. The body really can't do those things. And

525
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.720
the body of the nerve endings are right at the

526
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.880
edge of the body. So when you're nervous, the last

527
00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:59.640
thing you want to try to do is to do

528
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.880
something with your fingertips or your hands. It's just not doable.

529
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.799
You know when your handshake when you get nervous, but

530
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:08.359
your chest doesn't shake. Okay, So if you can take

531
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.680
that club and trap it across your chest and then

532
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.599
the only way that that arm can move is for

533
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:15.039
your chest to rotate, that clubhead is going to be

534
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.720
in the same position time in and time again. I mean,

535
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.799
I'm writing a book, I'm going to China. I run

536
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:23.839
a golf management program, and the coach of the Ben's

537
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:25.759
golf team. I don't have any time to go out

538
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:28.160
there and hit balls. Okay, but when I go out

539
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.920
to hit golf balls and to demonstrate this. There is

540
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.559
no question in my mind that I can take a

541
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.000
driver out seven iron witch. I don't care what it is.

542
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.519
I'm going to hit it one way. I'm going to

543
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.920
hit it straight. Now. I may tow it a little bit,

544
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:40.519
I may heal it a little bit, but the ball

545
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.319
is going to hold its line because my club head

546
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.359
is not turning over, it's not tumbling.

547
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.079
Just not a lot of spin on the ball when

548
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:48.519
you hit it.

549
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.440
No, I don't have any side spin at all. That's

550
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.359
what I'm telling you. I don't have any side spin

551
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:57.400
on my golf ball. My ball doesn't draw, my ball

552
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.960
doesn't fade. My ball goes right or left a little bit,

553
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.680
but never to the point where it would ever be

554
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.880
in the rough. Okay, And unfortunately for me, I learned

555
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:13.440
this to to at an advanced age. I don't I

556
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.599
don't have the desire to compete, but I really have

557
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.200
the desire to pass this on. Now. I can tell you,

558
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:21.640
as a golf coach, a lot of the young men

559
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.000
that come to me, they have they're pretty good players,

560
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.079
I mean plus ones and scratch and so forth, and

561
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.839
when they hear this and they don't hear it from

562
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.119
a lot of people because this is kind of this

563
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.119
is not new, but it hasn't been talked about. Let's

564
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:39.039
put it that way. They're always very suspect, and as

565
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.079
I tell them, look, I am not going to try

566
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.480
to change the way you think or to play. I'm

567
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.200
going to just show you the way I play and think,

568
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.319
and then you make your own mind up on what

569
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.480
you want to do, because I don't want to disrupt

570
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.880
anybody in their game. And obviously there's a lot of

571
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.079
ways to play this game, but I think I've found

572
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.720
a way that really makes it easy for the advanced

573
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.759
player as well as a high handicapper. I think they

574
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.319
both profit from this. I mean I I I would

575
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.279
get on the golf chair, I would talk to whoever

576
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.359
on the tour and not be a little bit nervous

577
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.960
about what it's about telling him this, because if they're

578
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.480
an arm swinger, I can improve them. It's just it's

579
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:17.200
just that simple.

580
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.519
Wow, now you you mentioned that.

581
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.160
Well, one of the things that it says in the

582
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.279
Hogan's book is that the beginning of the downswing transfers

583
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:28.960
the weight from the right foot to the left foot.

584
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.519
Well, Hogan said, the first move of the down swing

585
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.519
is to clear your left side. Okay, if your weight's

586
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.519
on your right foot and you rotate your left side,

587
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.279
you're on your right foot when you're hitting the golf ball.

588
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:40.839
And that's why a lot of people, when they took

589
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.519
his words verbatim, they could hit the golf ball because

590
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.240
because he left out the parrot. The part in the

591
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.079
letter I have by Ben Hogan to a friend about

592
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.680
how to hit the driver, he states emphatically, at the

593
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.240
top of my swinging, my weights on the instep of

594
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.720
my left foot, not my right foot, my left foot.

595
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.039
And when the first time I read that, I just

596
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.079
blinked and said, well, Ben must have had a cocktail

597
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.480
that day and or maybe a little dyslexia kicked in,

598
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:16.279
but he meant right foot. And then as I continued

599
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.799
my research and looked at film of him, and then

600
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.160
saw quotes where he told Mike Austin, who was a

601
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.559
pro from Los Angeles, from now on, I'm going to

602
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.279
play off the left side. And then one time I'm

603
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.079
with a conversation with Lee Trevino, Lee said, I've seen

604
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.799
a lot of great players play off the left side.

605
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.240
I've never seen anybody great that stayed for any length

606
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.720
of time on the right side. But I didn't understand

607
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:39.960
what he was talking about, and like most people, I

608
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.400
was too embarrassed to say, I don't know what you

609
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.759
mean by that. So through this period of time, this

610
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.720
learning experience, and then also there was a lot of

611
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.880
self doubt. Who am I? Who am I to say

612
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.440
some of these guys are wrong? But then when Jack

613
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.960
Nicholas made a quote in Golf Digest after the second

614
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.039
so people pointed out to him that he was staying

615
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:05.079
on his left side. Jack made the statement, and it

616
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.039
was a very you know, brash statement. He said, anyone

617
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:09.799
that teaches you to shift your weight on your right

618
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.200
foot on the backswing doesn't know how to teach well.

619
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.279
Led Metter and a lot of these guys hairsit straight up. Okay.

620
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.880
And I know when I first wrote, you know, when

621
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.000
I was writing my book some excerpts of it. When

622
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:27.000
in the local sportsbook here a little golf book, a

623
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.759
couple of pros wrote skating reviews of what I said.

624
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.759
You're insane, You're a fraud, blah blah blah. You know,

625
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.279
in the South side of Chicago, and me wanted to

626
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.799
go over there. And punch somebody in the nose. But

627
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.079
you know, at my age, I watched that stuff. So

628
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.079
I just wrote back. I just wrote that, and I

629
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.400
just said, well, you have your you know, you have

630
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.319
the right. I don't think you should slander me, but

631
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.720
you have the right to not agree. But but Al

632
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.839
Geiberger and Jack Nicholas agreed with me, and that's pretty

633
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.279
that's good enough for me. Yeah, but there really was

634
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.039
a lot of self done. I must say to you

635
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.079
that you know, I've been a hand player all my life.

636
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.759
I had no formal training. I was a kid and

637
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.680
I caddied like most of us did from my era,

638
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:13.599
and that's how we learned to play golf. We got

639
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.880
to play on Mondays at Caddy's Day and we had

640
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.079
hand me down clubs, but we prevailed. And because I

641
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.920
could play baseball pretty good and I was kind of

642
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.480
blessed with eye hand coordination, I got to the point

643
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.039
where I can play in a tour event, not to

644
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:28.599
stay out there, but I was good enough to qualify,

645
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.559
let's put at that point. But the game was always

646
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.400
elusive for me, and I just said, I just came

647
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.559
to the conclusion, well, I'm just not good enough I've

648
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.200
put my tie in, but I'm just not good enough

649
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:43.279
and I just didn't understand connection and rotation. And then

650
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.519
a lot of people think that Jimmy Ballard was the

651
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.119
one that was the first one to say that, but

652
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.519
that's really not true. I've got books that were written

653
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.680
in the twenties and thirties that talked about connection and rotation.

654
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.160
And there was an argument at the time. Do you

655
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.240
face the ball when you're hitting it or are you

656
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.400
facing the target when you hit it? Because your face

657
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.359
on the ball, your arms have to cross over in

658
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.680
front of you when you when your body's facing the target,

659
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.640
then your your arms are being pulled by the body,

660
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.240
so that this this this argument has gone gone on

661
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.240
for a while. Okay, and Hogan, you know, he was

662
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.279
a very bright man. He had like I S one

663
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.119
seventy five IQ, so he was close to genius. He

664
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.799
he figured it out, He got a thought and figured

665
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.559
it out and worked on it. And I don't think

666
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.000
he ever really divulged his secret. But you can see

667
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.119
it in his later film. You can see it so clearly.

668
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.000
You can see his rear end is totally on his

669
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.839
left leg, as was Nicholas. Even though Nicholas hoisted the

670
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.640
club upright and Hogan took it around him. They were

671
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:46.039
still against that brace. And I think that that is,

672
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:49.160
you know, the playoff of one axis is it really

673
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.640
eliminates a lot of the air made on the transitional

674
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.359
move and then the coupi gra on. That is, if

675
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.079
you can keep your left arm connected high on the

676
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.640
chest so that the movement of the body rotation brings

677
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.480
the arm into impact, then you got the best of everything.

678
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.759
And that's what we teach. I mean, there's some finite

679
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.359
things like when you set up to the ball, your

680
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.079
right hip has to be on the inside of your

681
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.880
right foot head address, and then when you go sixty

682
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:14.880
four do you find that the left hip has to

683
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.640
be in line with the outside of the left foot.

684
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.119
So the legs are going to be reactionary to this

685
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.920
winning You're not gonna have to drive the legs. You're

686
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.079
not gonna have to move the lower body and then

687
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.200
the upper body and all that stuff. That's all very

688
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:32.319
very difficult. And really when we use the legs for power,

689
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.200
that leverage comes from the ground up. It doesn't. It

690
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.799
doesn't come when we're when we're moving laterally, we're actually

691
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.119
not totally on the ground. So the more you're grounded,

692
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.400
the more power you can get from your legs. But

693
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.559
your legs have to be in a certain position so

694
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.240
that you can so that they can stay grounded as

695
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:55.519
you rotate the top part and then they just react. Unfortunately,

696
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.319
you can't see what I'm saying, but hopefully your listeners

697
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.680
are getting a labor for this. And and you're.

698
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:02.920
Being very descriptive. It's good.

699
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.680
I mean, if if you know, don't not while you're driving,

700
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.359
of course, but if you can close your eyes and listen,

701
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.000
you can visualize a lot of what you're saying.

702
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.960
Yeah, because this is this is really important, and I

703
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.320
mean it's really important if you're if you're if you

704
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.079
love the game I do, and you want to improve.

705
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.960
And the beautiful part about this cool concept is you

706
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.920
can do it from your chip shot to your drive.

707
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.960
It's the same exact concept. You you are connected at

708
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.119
the left arm and you rotate your body through the

709
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.320
target and it pulls a club through. The club can't

710
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.559
turn over, and you're going to hit really wonderful shots.

711
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.519
And we're not trying to stay behind the ball, We're

712
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.679
trying to move through the golf ball. Again, that's another concept.

713
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.440
See when you drop your right shoulder down, your head

714
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.920
goes backwards, it goes away from the target. Your body

715
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.000
arches and your hands turnover and you hit the golf ball.

716
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.400
But the true rotational person doesn't drop down and hit

717
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.199
the ball. His right side stays level and he and

718
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.599
he just slams his right side through that golf ball.

719
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.599
He hits it, hits through the golf ball, his right

720
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.599
side goes past the ball. If you're using the golf ball.

721
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.760
And this is what I tell all my students. The

722
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.800
golf balls a line. It's just a point of reference

723
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.880
to align your club hit at the target. But you've

724
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.960
got to move past that line. Your divot has to

725
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:21.519
be on the other side of that line. It can't

726
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.880
be behind that line when you put your golf club

727
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.159
behind the ball. If you brought the club right to

728
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.480
that spot each and every time, you'd be hitting the

729
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.480
ball fat because the club sets behind the golf ball.

730
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.039
So we've got to catch that ball and then the

731
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:36.360
divit forward of it. Okay, so we've got to be

732
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.800
moving through it. The more underneath you work. For all

733
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.000
the people that hit it, thin and fat and thin

734
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.000
and fat you're behind the ball, so you have to

735
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.079
be in position to hit the ball with power. And

736
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.440
most people are behind the ball too far, so the

737
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.480
only thing they can fire is their hands, and they

738
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.199
hit and fall back. They step back in the box

739
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.559
like a lot of baseball players used to do. I mean,

740
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.000
that move is prevalent in golf. There's PhDs with that movement.

741
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:02.719
I can tell you that.

742
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.920
This seems to be your creation, your discovery, not of

743
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.360
your creation. Obviously you're you're basing it on on what

744
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.039
you're watching from Hogan. But even if you uh were

745
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.519
to put in a search engine on the internet, single

746
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.559
pivot swing, it's going to pop back up with stack

747
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.079
and tilt.

748
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.440
Yeah yeah, and it's not. And believe me when I

749
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.400
tell you the only similarity is that we we set

750
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.519
up more weight left. But that's the only similarity. Stack

751
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.440
until is totally different than what I do. And God

752
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.440
bless them, that's that's their method. I don't I don't

753
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.960
talk about their method because it's it's not my method

754
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.559
and it's not what I believe. And I'm sure they're

755
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.760
just as passionate about their method. Heck, they wrote a

756
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.079
book and and and they did a tape. But I can.

757
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:56.519
I can honestly tell you that when my article article

758
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:58.880
came out and Golf illustrated, I got a lot of

759
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.760
email from people that bought their book and bought their

760
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.679
tapes and said, I can't do this. It hurts my back.

761
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.119
But when I tried your method, I could hit the ball.

762
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.159
Now does that mean I'm right? No, It just means

763
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.760
that some people think that my method is easier. I

764
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.320
do know one thing. Ben Hogan rotated through the golf ball.

765
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:23.440
He didn't tilt. He was stacked. He was what we

766
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.360
call posted, straight up and down. When he hit a

767
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.000
golf ball, he did not tilt back. His chest was

768
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.719
left with the target, and he was always in perfect balance.

769
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.079
He didn't go down and search for that golf ball.

770
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.880
He didn't need to do that. He could turn to

771
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.039
the ball. He cleared his right side and his early swings,

772
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:45.400
he was very long with the swing, and his swing

773
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.679
looked the same, but there was a big change to

774
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.400
his golf swing. His knee position was more towards the ball.

775
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.400
As he turned. In his later years, his knee jetted

776
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.519
straight out to the left foot, as did a gentleman

777
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.480
by the name of James Barn in the twenties with

778
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.119
Hickory Chefts. So again, that wasn't Hogan's invention. It was

779
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.159
I'm sure Ben found that if when his knee worked

780
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.920
that way, he was more balanced and braced, because that's

781
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.440
the whole key here, is that your body has to

782
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.239
be ready to make a really athletic move, and when

783
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.039
it's drifting right and drifting left like a willow, there's

784
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:24.280
nothing athletic about that.

785
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.559
And one of the things that you haven't mentioned yet

786
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.760
as a comparison or even its relevance, are the other

787
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.440
terms that we hear so frequently are the single, single

788
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.480
and two plane swing.

789
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.599
Yeah, you know, and Jim Hardy is it Jim Hardy? Yeah,

790
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.559
he wrote the book on plane swing on the single

791
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.320
plane swing, and he's a very fine teacher, and he

792
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.320
even shows that Hogan got a little bit on his

793
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.559
left side when he does his demonstrations. You know, I

794
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.800
believe that the body rotation puts the club in a

795
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.000
position just like when you're going to throw a baseball.

796
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.159
You kind of wind up, but there's no specific position

797
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.079
that you put your arm, and your arm goes to

798
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.199
a place where your body feels strong so that you

799
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:14.239
can make a hard throw, and I think the golfing

800
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.519
it has to be that way. I think that when

801
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.360
we set up properly, and if we're not changing our

802
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.000
spine angle, if we just rotate the body and keep

803
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.039
the arms connected to the body, that they're going to

804
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.000
find the position that you should be in. I have

805
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:28.960
never believed that you should try to get your wrist

806
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.320
hinged at the top or flat at the top. I

807
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:36.000
think that I think that that hurts people primarily because

808
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.599
they're thinking about their hands and their position, and you

809
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:41.400
can't shut that off. At the top, you're going to

810
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.639
be thinking about your hands and trying to get that

811
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:47.440
club flat at impact. And I've got scores of film

812
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.599
of me hitting the golf ball where my left wrist

813
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.400
is flat, and I can tell you that I have

814
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.679
never tried to get left wrist flat. I believe lag

815
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.559
and all of that are they're the consequence of doing

816
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.400
something before that. So as I rotate and that club

817
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.559
is being pulled, that club is going to be lagged

818
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.360
and my left wrist will have to be flat. When

819
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.880
my body stops and the club goes forward, that's when

820
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.400
my left rist is going to hinge and it's going

821
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.519
to cup. That's when you hit the ball weak, but

822
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.599
that's because the body stopped. Okay, but there's no way

823
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.000
that you can bring your arms out and try to

824
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.320
keep your left wrist flat. I mean, that's insanity. I

825
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.960
see people hurt themselves doing that and they hit everything

826
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.400
weak right, And yet there are people that are teaching

827
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.639
that today. And you know, that's one of the things

828
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.000
that I've always said. I'm a pgm ember since nineteen

829
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.039
sixty five, and not one person from the PGA has

830
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:41.639
ever come over and said, Okay, let me see what

831
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.840
you're doing to make sure you're not making people crazy here.

832
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.599
And I think that a lot. There's are art teachers

833
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.719
that are teaching out of a book and they're just

834
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.119
not cognizant them Why things happen. There is cause and effect,

835
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.480
and the left risk being flat of impact is an

836
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.639
effect of something else. It is not because you purposely

837
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.480
try to keep your left frist flat. I mean, that's

838
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.440
just that's ludicrous. You're moving too fast. There's too much

839
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.639
weight forward, especially when you have a driver in your hand.

840
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.119
Even though it may be fifteen ounces or so, the

841
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.199
weight of that clubhead is enormous as it's moving through

842
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.559
time and if you're if you're if your body stops,

843
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.559
that weight is gonna is gonna flip your hands you,

844
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.960
I don't care how strong you are, they're gonna, they're gonna,

845
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.199
they're gonna cup. And that's why a lot of people

846
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.599
when they go to hit the ball hard, they hit

847
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.440
that sky shot, they go straight up in the air

848
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.599
and they get that mark on the top of their club.

849
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.440
I know there's a lot of people out there now

850
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:32.960
nodding there.

851
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:34.920
I'm raising my hand. I'm one of those people.

852
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.440
Yeah, Okay, that's because you pull the club down steep,

853
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.639
the clubhead turns over and you make contact with the

854
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.880
top of the club, not the face the top. Okay, well,

855
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.960
that's because the body is still and the arms are down.

856
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.239
They're coming down and nothing is releasing except the arms.

857
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.360
I can remember so many times when I, you know,

858
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.719
I'm from another era. I played with per Simon woods

859
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.719
and I'd have these pure woods and I'd take I

860
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.800
try on a par five to kill the ball, and

861
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.280
there there'd be a big white spot on on the

862
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.480
top of my club. And I just hated myself for that.

863
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.039
But I never knew why I did it. I always

864
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:12.159
thought it was going underneath the ball, but you can't

865
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:12.920
go under the ball.

866
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:13.360
Yeah.

867
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.159
How many times you see people go, you know, I

868
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.239
need to tee it up higher. Yeah, change change their

869
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:19.559
tea position after they do that.

870
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.440
It's nothing about that. So all of those things, the

871
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.400
golf God was whispering my ear. Hey, you see what

872
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:32.360
you just did? You know why? And finally, my inquisitive nature,

873
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.639
and I was driven by the passion not to play

874
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.639
any better anymore, but to be able to teach people.

875
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.679
And also when I want to demonstrate, I don't have

876
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.960
to think, God, hopeing will shank this one or something

877
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.239
like that. I mean, I don't have those thoughts anymore,

878
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.599
especially when my kids are all, like I say, really

879
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.920
solid players. I've got a fifteen year old that's blasted

880
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.639
in the sixties all the time, and he hits about

881
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.320
three twenty off the tee and he's fifteen years old.

882
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.400
I want to slap him when I'm trying to tell

883
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.239
him to do this a little bit more. I've got

884
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.039
to get up there and be able to produce. I've

885
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.760
got to get up there and say, Okay, we'll watch this.

886
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.320
I'm going to hit this fire and it's going to

887
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.440
be dead straight. I'm going to hit that yellow flag

888
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:12.880
and I'm going to make it fall right just a

889
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.800
little bit. And I can do that. I have no

890
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.119
fear about doing that in front of anybody, because I

891
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.719
know there's a mathematical thing going on. If my left

892
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.480
arm is trapped against my chest and I rotate my chest,

893
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.880
my club's coming into that ball square. So if I

894
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:31.639
align myself properly and those conditions stay in place, I'm

895
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:33.719
going to hit that ball. Now. Have I ever hit

896
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.239
it when I was trying to do this? Have I

897
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.239
ever pulled one or push one? Absolutely, but I knew

898
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.400
exactly what happened, and I'll say my arms went first

899
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.639
that time and I reconnect bam. I hit it perfect.

900
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.159
So there's no doubt in my mind that this works.

901
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.760
There's no doubt in my mind that anybody can do this, male, female,

902
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.840
young or old. And I think that it's I think

903
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.119
it's what the Master figured out. And I've just kind

904
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:02.199
of add little signature things in there that that I

905
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.599
think are very really you know that that relate to

906
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:06.159
what he was trying to do. And then make it

907
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.519
easier again. The setup. You have to be set up

908
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.599
against the wall against the brace and you can't you

909
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.480
can't let your lower body go underneath your top top

910
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.639
of you. So the slides under because it's got a

911
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.840
slide back the other way. And then you're just you're

912
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.440
you know, you're in Chinatown. I mean, it's it's it's

913
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.760
over sell the clubs, buy a dog, go for a walk.

914
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.880
If you're going to go for a walk, don't hit anything.

915
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:34.079
So so well, you mentioned how you know, when you

916
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.199
talked about popping the ball up off the tee, and

917
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.960
then everyone always has advice about where your tea placement was.

918
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:45.199
The Other thing that I frequently see from from armchair

919
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:48.960
golf instructors are the people who say, oh, you lifted

920
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:49.360
your head.

921
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.639
Oh you lifted your head. Oh you lifted your head.

922
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.800
And that's just insanity. You know. I tell I show people,

923
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.440
you know, I have a number of because in a

924
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.760
golf management program, there's a lot of boys that came

925
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.079
in to learn the business, but they're not really skilled

926
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:07.079
in golf. They're double digit handicaps. And I get them

927
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:08.480
out there and I, you know, I try to feed

928
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.519
them a little bit of this and try to help them.

929
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.119
And they topped the ball on occasion and they say

930
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.199
to them, you know why you top that golfley say, well,

931
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.559
I looked up and I sa, are you sure? Are

932
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.039
you sure? You looked up? And they see why? Yeah,

933
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:21.679
I looked up and I said, well, let me show

934
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.559
you something. You watch my head. I'm gonna be I'm

935
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.639
gonna hold my head dead's still, and you're going to

936
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.000
see my eyes are going to be a neck gulp

937
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:28.719
ball and I'm going to hit the very top of

938
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.719
that golf ball. Now you know, I don't have time

939
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.239
enough to swing this club seventy miles an hour with

940
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.800
an iron and hit the very top of that skin.

941
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.320
But I'm going to do that, and I'll top that ball.

942
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.400
I'll make a really hard swing and then the ball

943
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.760
will go four or five feet and they'll say, how'd

944
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.360
you do that? It was really easy. I anticipated impact.

945
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.079
So what happens when you anticipate the impact you clinch.

946
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:53.199
So when you tighten your hands, your arms get shorter,

947
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.280
they pull in towards you, and that's why you top

948
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.320
the golf ball. So for people out there that are

949
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.159
top it a lot, especially with that faraway wood, it's

950
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.840
because they're hitting to the golf ball. So there's only

951
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:05.519
one cure for this. You got to be brave. Number one.

952
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:06.920
You got to set up to that golf ball so

953
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.440
that you don't get way behind it and then you're

954
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.599
trying to catch up. You kind of focus on where

955
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.000
you're going to go with your body and the club

956
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.159
head and not the golf ball. So when you get

957
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.280
it the coil, let's just say that's phase one of

958
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.760
a two part swing. Then you got to unwind to

959
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.519
the second part and hold that position. Look, you know,

960
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.400
look pretty, look like someone's taking a picture of your

961
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.199
follow through. And if you get your mind off of impact,

962
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.840
then you'll quit trying to hit and when you hit,

963
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.639
you won't have that response. So for everyone that's top

964
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.320
of the ball, I can promise you you're tightening up,

965
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:41.199
not looking up.

966
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:49.280
That is phenomenal observation. We even had a listener right

967
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:51.719
me and said once that his dad always used to

968
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:53.360
say to him, if you lift your head, the only

969
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.199
thing you're going to see is.

970
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:55.119
A bad golf shot.

971
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.159
When I watch Annika, it always looks like she's lifting

972
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:05.480
her head before she hits the ball.

973
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:07.320
Well, she looks like she was looking at the target

974
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.000
because she rotated her body and because her head and

975
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:14.559
eyes moved towards were moving following the ball. That's another thing.

976
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.480
You don't stay down when you hit a golf ball.

977
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:19.320
You let your eyes release. You have to because if

978
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.639
your head is looking to the right and you're trying

979
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.559
to turn left, your head is going to block your rotation.

980
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.960
So you've got to release your eyes. I mean that's

981
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.440
been said forever. There's a lot of great players. But

982
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.320
Anika David did the ball at one time, and it's

983
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.760
a shame that he moved away from his original swing,

984
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.400
but he was that left arm was so across the chest.

985
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.639
He had that club face shut at the top. But

986
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.360
it didn't really matter because he just rotated through the

987
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.639
golf ball and his eyes were really down the target line.

988
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.360
When he was hitting the golf ball, he was looking

989
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.880
where he wanted the ball to go. And Anika did

990
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.360
the same thing becausefully in your spine angle, you don't

991
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.159
want to focus on the golf ball anyway. I mean,

992
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.159
they're old saying a good player sense where the ball

993
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:07.880
is and bad players stare at it. And there's a

994
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.400
lot to be said about that, because if you get

995
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.079
stuck looking at that golf baller looking at a dimple

996
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.599
on that ball and all that blowing that we've been

997
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.440
told to do. You're gonna stay on that ball and

998
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.199
you're gonna shut down your swing because the ball is

999
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.079
not the golf swing. The ball is the center of

1000
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.599
the swing. You're going to decelerate like crazy if you're

1001
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.280
focusing on the back of the ball or anything, and

1002
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.840
you gonna use your hands. Your body's gonna stay behind

1003
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:32.760
the ball. I mean, you're going to be You're going

1004
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.559
to be just still when you're hitting it instead of active.

1005
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.880
And that's why so many people hits so short. I mean,

1006
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:42.000
I had a guy recently come up to me about

1007
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.159
six foot three and he says, well, I you know,

1008
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:45.760
I'm fairly new at the game. I've been played about

1009
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.519
a year. I said, okay, well tell me a bout you.

1010
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.159
So how far do you hit a How far do

1011
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:50.760
you hit a driver? He says, oh, I hit about

1012
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.960
one sixty five, one seventy And I said, you should

1013
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:55.880
be able to throw it that far for God's sake,

1014
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.880
with your size. And when I got through with him,

1015
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.760
you know, he was two thirty two forty because side

1016
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:04.639
was there the length, you know, he had a very

1017
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.840
long arm and then a club on top of it.

1018
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.400
So he had a huge lever, but he didn't know

1019
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.519
what to do with the lever. And so all of

1020
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:18.480
these things you know, are are they all relat If

1021
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.519
your body's in the wrong position. I don't care how

1022
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.480
strong you are, you can't hit the golf ball very far.

1023
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.119
I used to give lessons to gene Upjaw years and

1024
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.639
years ago when he was with the Open Raiders. Jeane

1025
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.599
was a massive man. I weigh one hundred and fifty

1026
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:35.480
pounds and I just drilled it by him, I mean

1027
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.000
one hundred yards okay, And he'd say, how can you

1028
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:40.840
hit it so far? My leg's bigger than you. Didn't

1029
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.320
blah blah blah. But when he got to when he

1030
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.599
got right, when he figured out where to be instinctively

1031
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:49.480
because he was an athlete, you know, he hit it

1032
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.320
two miles And I didn't know all of this then.

1033
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.239
But you get there. Every now and then, do you

1034
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.239
understand what I mean? Every now and then you clock one,

1035
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.920
you say, what did I do there? Your body is

1036
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.320
in the place. Well, now I know where that place is.

1037
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.519
That's the thing. I know. We'll put you and you're

1038
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.920
gonna you're gonna hit the ball farther. You're going to

1039
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.639
hit the ball straighter, and it's it's and it's not hard.

1040
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:14.760
I have people say, well, how many lessons do I have?

1041
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:18.320
And I say one, maybe two, and then then then

1042
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:19.920
I can pass it. I'm pass it on to you,

1043
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.880
and then you'll know every time you hit the golf ball,

1044
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.440
what that ball is doing will tell you what you

1045
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:25.679
did or did not do.

1046
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.760
Well, we're gonna come down to Palm Springs. I'm going

1047
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.960
to spend some time with you.

1048
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:33.280
Well, i'd problems you. It's not going to take a

1049
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.480
lot of time. And you don't have to be a

1050
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.199
great athlete. You don't have to be young and springy.

1051
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.199
You can you know, you can be just a regular

1052
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.760
guy that doesn't have eight hours to day to practice.

1053
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.039
And I'll show you. I'll show you how to hit

1054
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.639
the ball and hit it solid. And I mean that's

1055
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.920
a flat guarantee.

1056
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:50.639
I love it.

1057
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.519
I love that kind of flat guarantee. That is confidence,

1058
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.840
and that's what the game is about. Having that confidence.

1059
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.440
Well, you know, you know, I've been at this a

1060
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:01.679
long time. I've you know, I made my bones. As

1061
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.559
they say, I know how to teach golf and I've

1062
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.400
been doing this since. You know, I've been a pros

1063
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.840
in sixty five, but it's really the last fifteen years

1064
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.960
that I've learned how to swing the golf club. And

1065
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.440
I just wish I had done this a little earlier

1066
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.320
and really and where I really was sure it was right.

1067
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.639
It's probably been the last sixty seven years and now

1068
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.400
I and now there's a couple of guys on the tour.

1069
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:28.079
I'm not going to mention, but I just wish I

1070
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.840
could have a conversation with him. I don't want any money,

1071
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.559
I don't want anything. I would, in fact, I would

1072
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.920
do it anonymously, but unfortunately Egos they're not going to say, hey,

1073
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.920
there's a guy on a driver that could really help you.

1074
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.159
You know, it's just not going to happen. But just

1075
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:43.280
for the sake of the game, you know.

1076
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:45.920
So when do you come back from China.

1077
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:49.039
I'm going to be there a week. Hopefully that's going

1078
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.000
to be all. I mean, I'm enamored with it, but

1079
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.280
I have so much to do on this side of

1080
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.719
the pond. I've got to catch up. But I want

1081
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:03.519
to really try to to get some golf academies there

1082
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.400
and teach people how to operate a facility, because it

1083
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.239
doesn't make sense to me that they're going to build

1084
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.840
ten thousand golf courses in the next five or six years.

1085
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.480
And that's the that's on the drawing board. That they

1086
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.880
don't that their own people can't operate them. Doesn't make

1087
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.679
sense to me that they have to get somebody from

1088
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.039
Australia or America or whatever to run their golf course.

1089
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.719
So they should build their own base of employees, you know,

1090
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.360
so it benefits them just like we have we have here.

1091
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.440
We don't have to call someone in Australia to run

1092
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:33.599
a golf course here, and that's what they need. So

1093
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:37.880
they need junior programs and they need some management program

1094
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.239
so they get an understanding. You know, this is not

1095
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.760
rocket science. The golf industry is a service oriented business.

1096
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.639
To accommodate people. You anticipate what they're going to say

1097
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:50.000
before they do it, and you're ready to form that accommodation.

1098
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.920
And that's it. Learning to fold the shirt or sell

1099
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.119
a set of clubs. Come on, we can all do that.

1100
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.519
But the secret of this business is to make people

1101
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.480
feel welcome and not when they walk through the door

1102
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.760
and look at them and say, well, that guy's not

1103
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:06.079
going to spend any money. You know, you don't qualify

1104
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.840
people in this business, nor should you in life for

1105
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.480
that matter. But that's a secret of this business. And

1106
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.079
I've been lucky because that was taught to me as

1107
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.400
a young man. And I've made a lot of money

1108
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.360
in the golf industry and times when people didn't make money,

1109
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.320
and and you know, it's it's what I pass on

1110
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.519
to mysch students so that they can go out there

1111
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:27.800
and they can become successful.

1112
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:31.000
Well, if you receive two phone calls from the last

1113
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.960
episode that we barely even scratch the surface on the

1114
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.400
single pivot swing, I'm hoping you're going to get a

1115
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:40.079
lot more emails and phone calls. I will make sure

1116
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:43.840
to post your your email address on our blog site.

1117
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.159
And you told me T Manzoni at College Oftheesert dot edu.

1118
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.079
Correct, that's correct, And.

1119
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:54.480
Then let's let them contact you that way, unless you

1120
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.480
want to give the phone number that I contacted you.

1121
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.639
At this one.

1122
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.039
If they want to, they can call me in my

1123
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.280
cellular phone. If they don't agree with me, please don't

1124
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:04.760
call me and call me a bunch of names.

1125
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.000
If you don't agree to call me, just get a

1126
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.840
hold of me and my cell phone.

1127
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.039
My cell phone is seven to six zero five three

1128
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.639
four three one nine zero, and you have my email,

1129
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.719
and anyone that's interested in trying to find out more,

1130
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.000
if they're a little bit confused, you know, and drop

1131
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:26.599
me into or give me a call, and I'll be

1132
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:28.440
happy to help them in any way that I can.

1133
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.320
Well, like I said, I'm going to try to come

1134
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:33.880
down to the Palm Springs area around the first part

1135
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.960
of twenty eleven. And if I do and we get

1136
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:41.079
a chance to get together, I hope that you'll allow

1137
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.719
me to bring a video camera and and maybe even

1138
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:45.400
put a little bit on video on here so we

1139
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.920
can get that on golf Smarter TV too, to show people,

1140
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.760
because based on this information and the emails that I received,

1141
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.159
they want more information. They are intrigued by what you're

1142
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.119
saying and want to know more, So we've got to

1143
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:57.840
get it out there.

1144
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.840
Well, that's great, and I I appreciate, I really do

1145
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.079
appreciate the opportunity to tell you all this stuff because

1146
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.800
it's it's it's it's like, you know, I feel like

1147
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.159
I have a lightning in a bottle right now and

1148
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:12.239
it's trying to get out, and I want to get

1149
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:16.719
it out, and not so much to praise myself, but

1150
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.320
to help people with this game, because it's such a

1151
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.960
fantastic game, and and to suffer with it like I

1152
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:27.000
know I did for many years is ridiculous. If you

1153
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.800
get the right amount of information, it isn't that complicated.

1154
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.039
We're not building a rocket here, Okay, we're swinging a club.

1155
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.079
And if we just play on an access and rotate

1156
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.519
around that access, it makes it so much easier