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Hey, everybody, it's Josh Kart. This week's episode of Mulligans
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features interviews from the twenty twenty three Sony Open with
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two of the last four major winners, JJ Spond and
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Aaron Raye, who just came out of nowhere to win
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the PGA Championship. And be sure to join us next
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week for a special episode of Golf Smarter's Corrected Mistakes
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with Big Randy from No Laying Up, who talks about
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his video series Strapped, what he's learned about the game,
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and what it's like to play golf with Max Omer.
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It's probably the most important aspect of the game because
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we can group the mental side on how the pre
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shot routine is, how calm you are over your shot,
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how well you visualize it, how clear you are in
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your mind, how you can think of the right thoughts
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but clear the other thoughts out of it. And that's
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not to mention. Mental game goes into how while you
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react to mistakes, how will you deal with adversity, how
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well you can ride good waves of momentum as well,
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and within all of those things, that's a significant.
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Part of golf.
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So if that part of the game can be sharp,
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then it can take you a long way.
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I was curious when you did your world record of
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was it two hundred and seven putts of ten feet?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, did you have any you know, kind of thoughts
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if you remember back then, like if any doubts that
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were coming up, like can you really do this or
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things like that, and how did you overcome that if
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that happened during that.
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Time, Yeah, definitely. So that was my third attempt.
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My previous two attempts, I think on the first run
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I maybe made seven. Second run, I think I got
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to about forty and so obviously in the world record
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I think was one hundred and thirty six at that point,
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so previous two times obviously.
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I didn't make it there.
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But then I thought, it's rather than trying to see
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it as me get into forty eighty one thirty, just
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seeing in cycles of ten and then when I got
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to ten, I just started again at one and then
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kept on going. So again we're talking about the mental
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side of it. That just really helped to keep me
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quite present and not to get too far ahead, and
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also to keep everything very manageable that I was never
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on one hundred.
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And thirty seventh part to break the record.
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I was aware that it was one hundred and thirty
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seventh part, but it was more in my mind that
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it was just the seventh part of that particular cycle.
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So that helped to kind of keep me in a
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better place mentally in order to achieve that.
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And then.
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That was it, really And there were a couple of
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puts which looked like they were missing but went in.
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And you always need those good breaks here and there
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with that's in around the golf or with that's in
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a ten foot part. So that's pretty much some of
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the keys to it.
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When you were in that experience or when you have won,
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have you ever felt like being in what we call
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the zone where things kind of like are quiet or
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maybe slowed down, or just do you enter into maybe
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an altered space where it seems so easy.
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That's a great question.
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I think when when a lot of players perform well,
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they do experience that that kind of feeling because it's
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almost well for me anyway, it's almost like nothing else
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is really going on outside of that present moment and
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that present shot.
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But you almost have to enter a state like.
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That to be able to focus on all of the
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things you need to in order to pull off that
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given shot in order to to really perform, because if
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any of the other things start to enter your mind
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and you don't use them as fuel and use them
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in the right way, it can very quickly derail you.
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And that can translate itself into a misshot or a
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mispart or a bad run of holes, which can end
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your chances of winning a tournament. So, yeah, to answer
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your question, and it's happened a few times, it'd be
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nice if that happened a little bit more, and I
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think we will strive for that and we will try
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and do our best in order to enter that state.
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And that's where it's such a mix of physical and
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mental because if the physical parts are in a good place,
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if you're well rested, you always give yourself that chance
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for everything to fall in line, and then the mental
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side can really come out because it's you've got a
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great game for it to work on on top of
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that week.
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So it really is trying to take care of the
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whole picture.
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And that's a battle that I think a lot of
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golfers constantly face on a week to week basis. But
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when we do get it right, that that feeling is
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pretty cool. And then when that translates into achievement or
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winning a tournament, then obviously that's very special.
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If you ever experience any like kind of doubts when
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you're cunning or shipping or driving, and it's so like,
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how do you kind of address that to kind of
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you know, shift it in that sense, it's a great question.
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And that can happen a number of times, and it
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does happen to me a number of times in the past,
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and it will happen now, and it will.
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Happen in the future. I think for me.
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It sounds very cliche, but having a good routine, having
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when I say a good routine timing that is quite
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similar where the body just falls into a bit of
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a flow where those doubts can come to mind. But
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when you're working at a good time, everything just seems
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to flow a little bit better and hopefully the body
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coordinates itself a little bit better to override the doubt
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that comes into mind.
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And then on top of that, just having.
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A couple of key key thoughts that are very simple
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with in this wing, and if the doubts come to
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the forefront of the mind, to just try and replace
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those with a key thought. And I hope that between
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the key thought and good timing of the body, that
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the dat can hopefully be overcome. And that isn't always
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a case, but I think that that gives certainly gives
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me the best chance of overcoming those doubts because I
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do have them.
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Do you ever consider that the doubts are actually trying
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to help you succeed and that they're coming up at
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a time when you're on the pinnacle of more success,
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either in that shot or that or that hole or
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that round, And it's just almost a test to say,
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we're checking to see your resolve in how much you
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believe in the success you're about to have.
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That's a great question, and I think you're right, I think,
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and it's in those periods where you begin to push
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some of your limits and you come through those, you
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learn if you don't come through those again, they're a
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great They're a great learning process.
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It is.
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It is definitely a test of your resolve and a
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test of how much you truly believe in yourself. But
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I also think it comes down to self awareness as well,
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because there are times when doubt can actually be your friend,
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when you may be taken on a shot that is
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a little bit risky, and the swing is feeling a
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little bit ropey, and the doubt creeps up to go, actually,
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what are you doing here. Let's be a little bit smarter.
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Let's just step away from this and let's rethink. So
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I believe it does come back to the self awareness
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that when is that doubt actually helping you? When is
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it giving you a signpost to say, hey, that's step back,
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or when is that doubt trying to limit you? And
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in both the examples they a doubt, but in one
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example it's working with you, the other example it's not.
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And I think differentiating between the two requires a self
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awareness and then trying to react in the correct way
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then requires putting that into action. So I guess you've
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just got to try and read this situation and read
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your self to the best of your ability.
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And you beautifully explain that. I feel because a sense,
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that kind of mental inner talk is actually different those two.
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Versions about they are.
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Yes, you have a very unique cultural background. I wonder
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do you does that help you at all playing golf?
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Do you pull from any of your cultural you know,
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kind of straints or history or things of that nature
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to I guess feel stronger or more confident or things
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like that.
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On the course, Yeah, I would say so.
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I think that is probably a natural part for most
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people that we rely on some of our past experiences
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and how we've learned.
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In order to try and help us in the future.
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And I come from the UK, but from an Indian family,
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again very cliche, but a lot of hard work in
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the family and discipline, and also faith in God and
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believing in a higher power than things happen for a reason,
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and that those those are some very big things which
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have shaped me and continue to shape me.
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Yes.
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And have you had that kind of experience where you,
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let's say, you call on that faith of God or
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the divine when you're playing and you felt something kind
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of take over in a positive way or like kind
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of help you or things like that. Does that ever happen?
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Yeah, yeah, it has, whether that is simply belief or
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whether that is a higher power. I think I believe
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in one of those two things. But yeah, I've definitely
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experienced that in the past. And again it's as we
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were talking about before in terms of getting in that zone.
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Maybe that is part of it. That it's just a
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feeling of peace and being at one with whatever it
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is that we're doing in that present moment, whether that
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is hitting a shot, whether that is walking down the fairway,
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or whether that is getting groceries from a store. These
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are things that are about life and peace and just
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the interconnectedness of all things really. So I've definitely experienced
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that in the past, and i think ironically that's something
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that I'm trying to be a bit more wary of
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implementing in my life now because it is there, but
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it's also something that maybe hasn't been as much in
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the forefront as what it was in the past for me.
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So it's quite interesting actually talking about this now because
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it's something that I've I've thought of a lot over
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the last couple of weeks.
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Really, Yeah, it's interesting.