Oct. 3, 2025

Target Oriented Golf, with Colin Cromack

Target Oriented Golf, with Colin Cromack
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GS#442 June 24, 2014 442: The key to performance and flow in golf is understanding how to keep your conscious mind away from attempting to control your physical actions. Colin Cromack of Target Oriented Golf returns for the first time since 2008 (ep#137) to discuss how to train your eyes, mind and body for success, and then putting Golf Psychology into practice. Swing with precision and play with real freedom.
If you are a dedicated golfer somewhere between beginner and Tour Professional wondering why your best golf performances remain so frustratingly elusive, the Target Oriented Golf program systematically explains how to focus your mind for golf and demonstrate how to put the comprehensive theory into practical procedures you can practice at home, on the range and enjoy out on the golf course. No NLP. No EFT. No 3 Principles. No hypnosis. This is ALL golf instruction.

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If you have a question about whether or not Fred is using any of the methods, equipment or apps we’ve discussed, or if you’d like to share a comment about what you’ve heard in this or any other episode, please write because Fred will get back to you. Either write to golfsmarterpodcast@gmail.com or click on the Hey Fred button, at golfsmarter.com

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Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty two from June

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What target are into golf is about is helping a

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person establish that visualization of the target as they're executing

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their action. So is that conscious mind is occupied with

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the visualization of the target. That allows a non conscious

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mind to swing a golf club, and it will do

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so because you're giving it a clear statement of intention.

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Your conscious mind has a clear picture of what it's

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trying to achieve, and it allows a non conscious mind

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to follow through. A non conscious mind cannot carry out

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that action if you don't have a clear targeting mind.

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And that's the reason why many people struggle with this

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concept of target orientation. Because they look at their target

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threads but they don't see it. And because they don't

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see it when they look back at the ball, their

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attentional focus shifts away from target onto the ball, onto

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the takeaway, onto the water, onto the outer bounds, onto

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whatever it chooses to jump in. It comes the focus

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of your attention at that time, and the non conscious

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mind responds accordingly.

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Target Oriented Golf with Colin Cromac. This is Golf Smarter.

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Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast. Colin.

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Good morning, Fred. I'm delighted to be here a game.

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It has been a long time since the first time

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you and I spoke, which was episode number one hundred

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and thirty seven back in July of two.

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Thousand and eight.

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So in six years time, I hope that you've done

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a lot of changing to your method of teaching, but

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maybe updated, perhaps, but I've been quoting it for the

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six years.

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Well, I thank you for that, bread and you'll be placed.

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And you're pleased to know that my approach to golf

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and my methods that I've developed haven't changed. They are

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as consistent as today as they were six years ago.

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But interestingly enough, I've developed a collaboration with a gentleman

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in America called doctor Tony Paparo, and I would like

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to take the opportunity to introduce his work as well

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as mine Fred to give a refresher on target oriented

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golf and hopefully give you the opportunity to maybe talk

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to Dr Piparo with a follow up show.

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Yeah, spell his last name for me, please.

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Pip a R.

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Okay, and does he have a website as well?

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Yes, it's found out mine.

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My mind, mastery golf dot com. Okay, we will look

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into that absolutely. And as we're giving u ur ls,

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let's give yours too real quick to get get this started.

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Yep. My website is target oriented golf dot com.

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Target oriented goolf dot com. All right, Well, now people

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can listen and decide if they're going to go there

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or not. But let's let's talk about where do you

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want to start? Let me start, okay, because you know,

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again it's been a long time since we spoke. I've

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been talking about the four levels of competence for years,

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always trying to figure out every time I say it,

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I'm like, wait a minute, is that the order?

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Did I get it? Is it you start with and

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then to conscient and you got to move.

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So we're going to get into the details of that

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so you can really allow me to repeat it smoothly

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and not screw it up.

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But I got it.

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I got an email from a listener, John Pappas up

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in Santa Rosa, California, and he says, Hey, Fred, please

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bring back Colin Cromac.

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He is onto something.

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His insight, golfer a cycle between conscious competence and conscious incompetence.

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You're constantly dragging yourself back down to conscious incompetence. You

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never give yourself a chance to play golf intuitively. That

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was a quote from you, he says. And now what

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John says is this was a big light bulb moment

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for me. I've been playing golf for thirty years. For

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the first ten years, from ages to eleven to twenty two,

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I played intuitively unconscious competence down to a four handicap.

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But for the last twenty years.

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I've been dragging myself back down into conscious incompetence. Now

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I'm a fifteen handicap. What a drag, he says. Here's

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a list of teaching methods that I've tried, And when

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I say tried, I mean I committed to each method

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for one year at least one Ledbetter, two Stack Intilt,

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three Secret in the Mike May's right foot Inversion method four,

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Sean Clement Wrecking Ball Method five, Martin Ayers Wound right

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Arm six, John Erics and Bradley Hughes Advanced ball Striking,

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Flat Entry into Pack seven Shoemaker Fred Shoemaker Extraordinary Golf.

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Even when I stopped focusing on technique and started using

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Shoemaker's mental approach, I still approach the mental side as

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a technique versus just simply unconscious competence. This is, for example,

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Shoemaker's club throwing exercise as.

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An eye opener.

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So I started thinking about my swing as a throw,

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my conscious mind was still paying attention to my body actions.

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Shoemaker is a great coach, but he is still having

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students focus their conscious minds on body awareness too much.

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In my opinion. I know he wants us to focus

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on the target or the club or the ball.

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Something external, but students like me will still focus their

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conscious mind on a body technique. That's why I'm excited

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to learn more about in Chromac's target oriented Golf. I'm

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really really exhausted from cycling between conscious competence and conscious incompetence. Lastly,

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Collins question does the target create anxiety is a very

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powerful question for me. The answer for me is no,

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I find calm in the target versus always finding anxiety

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by putting my conscious mind on my body actions.

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Wow right, yeah, yeah, And.

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I say that's not uncommon. I mean, at the end

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of the day, John's gone through a process that many

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other golfers have been through themselves, and it's his desire

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to obviously improve in your golf. But the majority of

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the time golfers spend their practice cycling between different methods

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of learning how to swing off clubs. And now there

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is a very different psychological skill set that's required to

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learn how to play Goldfread, because learning how to swim

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you having your attentional focus on something to do with

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a body part of body movement, and some coaches are

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trying to move the attention away from the body onto

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the club, but it still takes the individual's conscious mind

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onto a control of their motor skills. Now, we don't

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perform anything in our lives successfully, Fred, whilst we're consciously

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trying to control our physical actions. So the key thing

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about learning goal and any other life skill is we

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actually have to shift our conscious mind away from this

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motor skill so that the motor cortex in our brain,

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which ultimately has everything that we need to carry out

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a motor skill. Once the skills have been developed, we

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need to actually tap into that FRED. But we can't

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tap into that because we spend all of our lives

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being taught how to consciously try and control the motor skill.

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So the individual or the golfer never gets that sense

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of freedom in their golf game that they get in

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other aspects of their life, from riding a bike through

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to driving a car, where we free the conscious mind.

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So I'd like to just briefly introduce a concept to

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your FRED which it introduces different states of the mind.

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And it's important to understand this because if we don't

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know where in the mind we're trying to improve a skill,

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then it's very difficult to target what it is that

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we're trying to improve. So you're obviously familiar with people

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talking about the subconscious mind, and the subconscious mind FRED

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is basically whereby we develop ourself image and our belief systems.

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They are acquired over a lifetime through our experiences and

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through people talking to us and telling us things, and

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we start to develop a belief system about who we

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are in life now the subconscious mind is different to

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the non conscious mind. The non conscious mind is that

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part of the brain which is responsible for your motor skills.

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So when you're an infant, when you're a child, for instance,

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before you learn language. It's very interesting, Fred, but we

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learn to walk as infants without actually having learned any

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language at that time. So the conscious mind or the

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cognitive process in the prefrontal cortex hasn't developed all right,

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So we can't think our way through learning how to walk.

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We do that process by awareness, and there's often a

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parent opposite to where we're trying to go, and we

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stumble slowly towards that other parent, and through a series

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of repetitious movements, we develop the motor skills for walking.

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No conscious mind involved in this process, Fred, but we

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learn to walk, and that skill of walking becomes adaptive.

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We learn to then crawl and run and skip, and.

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Let's not forget Colin, that we also learned to fall,

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which is actually incredibly important because you can't learn resiliency

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if you haven't fallen over.

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And it's all done though, Fred, without any conscious mind involved.

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What's through this process and this is really important to

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understand in motor skills acquisition. We develop motor skills when

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we keep the conscious mind out of the picture, because

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the conscious mind, in essence, is something that we develop

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through language and through thinking process, whereby we start to

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actually give our selves a sense of direction through our

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thinking process. But that thinking process isn't very adapt at

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developing or controlling our body. It's not designed to control

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the body. That's what the motor cortex is there for.

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So what we have to do. You see, what happens

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is when we start to become we learn language, we

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start to learn a skill like riding a bike. Thread

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Typically what happens is we've learned language at that time

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and we start to sort of be very anxious when

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we are learning to ride a bike, because we are

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being taught how to control the pedals, and our focus

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is on trying to control the bike at that time.

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You see, But through a series of repetitious processes which

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are constrained by the instrument the bike, our attention naturally

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shifts to the road ahead. So what's actually happening is

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our conscious mind is being allowed to navigate to an

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external focus. And once that happens, fred the external focus

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allows the non conscious mind to take over the control

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of the vehicle. The balancing of the vehicle, and the

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movement of the pedals is all done non consciously, and

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you can take this process through any skill that you've

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ever developed. When you learn to drive a car, initially

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you're getting instruction, You're getting conscious instruction. You're trying to

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consciously control the steering, changing the gear, changing the clutch,

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and depressing the accelerator. You're really quite poor at this time,

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but again you're constrained by the vehicle. And once you

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start allowing your attentional focus to shift to the road ahead,

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your non conscious mind starts to take over the vehicle,

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the control of the vehicle. So every situation that occurs

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in life, we are allowed naturally to go to an

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external focus. Fred, Is this all good? So the external

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focus is the key thing. It allows us to pass

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over the motor skill to the non conscious mind.

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Is there a subtle difference between non conscious and unconscious

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or is it a huge difference?

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Well, this is the important thing forred. The unconscious mind

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is another thing altogether. The unconscious mind is when you're asleep,

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and when you're asleep, you're aware of the environment, but

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you're not paying attention to anything other than what's going

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on in the dreams. But the dream itself is not

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something that you're in control of. But the key thing

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is Fred, is that the unconscious mind is very active.

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It's very busy, and you're very aware of something that

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you know in the room. Should should it, should it occur?

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But typically you're not actively paying attention. It's only when

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you wake up that the conscious mind sort of picks

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into into action and you start thinking about the day ahead.

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And so the conscious mind gives you the direction, it

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gives you the intention for what you're going to spend

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your life doing throughout the day. So you've got the

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unconscious mind, which is obviously one aspect of your mind.

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You've got the subconscious, which is where your belief systems

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and your self image is developed. You've got the non conscious,

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which is responsible for the motor skills, and you've finally

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got the captain of the ship, which happens to be

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the conscious mind. But the conscious mind gives the direction,

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it doesn't carry out the action. It's not powerful enough,

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it's not fast enough. So the reason why I'm explaining

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these different states of mind, Fred, is that in research

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in neuroscience that these minds they don't exist. They can

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only research the brain, and so any mind is just

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kind of an epi phenomenon of brain activity. They can't

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describe the minds that I'm talking about. Now. There are

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lots of people that work with the subconscious mind. They

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try and help people improve golf, for instance, by using

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things like hypnosis and NLP, trying to change self image

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and belief systems, which work by you shutting down for

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a moment of conscious mind. You park it to one

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side whilst you go in and implant new memories into

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the area for the subconscious mind. So what you're trying

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to do, Fred is override what were dominant memories with

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new memories. You know, we are purely memories. Everything we

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you and I are that we experience are created from

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experiences we've had and stored as memories. So if you've

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got a bad memory that's preventing you from before meing,

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it is possible to go in and replace that with

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a much more empowering one. But it takes time, it

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takes effort. But the point is Fred, changing subconscious patterns

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doesn't change the motor skills, it doesn't change the non

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unconscious skills that you're trying to develop. You see, the

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non conscious mind in essence, Fred, once the motor skill

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has been developed is perfect if we keep the conscious

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mind away from it. Ahah.

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And that's the big question, right, how do you do that?

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You play target oriented golf? Well?

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Did walk into that one?

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Well? You know, this is the wayson why I've developed

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the workfread. It takes time to understand the subject matter

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and to go and a play in practice and in

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your play. But people spend twenty years trying to learn

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how to swing a golf club. Why don't they try

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and learn how to trust themselves to swing a golf

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club when they've developed other skills in their lives successfully

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by getting the conscious mind out of the picture.

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But you're not really serious about why do they question

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themselves on their mechanics because it doesn't go well every

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single time you swing the club, so you're always questioning yourself.

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Yeah, well that's the problem from the very first golf

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lesson when the club is put into your hand and

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you have your attention taken to how to grip the

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golf club, and you try and hit a golf ball

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whilst your attention is internal and probably on the grip.

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You hit a poor golf shot, you naturally attribute that

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poor golf shot with something you're doing physically wrong. So

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you spend a lot of time focusing on trying to

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improve your grip whilst hitting golf balls. Once you've got

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your grip feeling right, but you're still hitting poor golf balls,

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you then switch your attention to your stance or your posture,

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or your takeaway or any other number of body parts.

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And isn't that the point that there are so many

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different things that can go wrong? How can you be

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unconscious about it when you're trying to analyze and practice

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awareness of where it is and what's going wrong.

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Yeah, Well that's the point, Freddie, is that if you

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spend your life trying to develop the motor skill with

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that conscious thought process of trying to control that skill,

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you'll never go to experience a trust in it. Now.

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The reason why I mentioned my partner, doctor Tony Baparo,

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was because he spent his life in research dedicated to

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understanding attentional focus in relation to motor skills acquisition. And

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what he's done is developed a golf coaching program that

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I believe every PGA coach and any golf coach out

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there should understand because what he's advocating Fred is that

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whilst an individual is learning how to develop the motor

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skills to swing a golf club, they need to be

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keeping the conscious mind busy and occupied whilst moving into

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the specific positions that the individual is trying to move into.

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Based on the coach is advice. So you know, you

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might be aware of the concept of tim gorway and

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in a game of golf where he advocates the concept

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of back hit. The idea of this thread is that

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by saying something whilst you're moving the body, you're keeping

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the conscious mind engaged so that it allows the non

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conscious mind to move the body. You can't be attending

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to the body if you're engaging the mind with that command. Now,

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what doctor Paparo has done has developed a very systematic

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way of a golfer developing a golf swing without hitting

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golf balls. First of all, because you need to develop

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the motor skills for swinging a golf club before you

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actually start trying to apply it to a golf ball.

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Because what happens is whilst you've got the golf ball there,

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thread and you're trying to not only develop the motor skill,

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you're reacting every time to where the golf ball's going.

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You're constantly doubting the fact that you're in the right position.

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So your conscious mind is constantly switching to and from

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different body parts and it's never there's never any control

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over the attention. And that's what we're trying to explain

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in our work, is that the attentional focus needs to

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be controlled, not only out on the golf course when

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you're trying to perform, but it needs to be controlled

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whilst you're developing the motor skills for a golf swing,

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because without being aware of your attentional focus, the mind

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is doing whatever it chooses to do wherever the individual

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chooses to think. And consequently, when it comes to playing golf,

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if you spend your whole time I'm consciously practicing the

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information that you're consciously being taught, you have no choice

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but to consciously play, and therefore you never get to

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that place where you're out there experiencing a trust in

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the golf swing or the putting stroke that you would

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do in any other life skill. Let me tell you

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the importance of the target thread. If you and I

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were to go out onto a park and we had

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some balls in our hands, and we were simply I

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was asking you to simply throw the ball at different targets.

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You intuitively would know how hard to throw the ball

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based on the target selection. Your attention would be always external,

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your mind would typically be quiet, and your non conscious

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mind would be allowed to throw the ball.

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All right, Can I stop you right there?

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Go ahead?

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All right, Let's take that analogy that you were bringing.

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Let's put it into say shooting a basketball. All right,

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go ahead, There's there's the basket. Throw the basket. Throw

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the ball up to the basket, and unconsciously I would think, okay,

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I just I just need to do that right, just

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this motion here and it'll go in.

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But it doesn't go in.

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Right.

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So, when I'm out on the driving ranger and you

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and I are working out, and and we're just working

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on practicing my swing, I'm on the range.

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When you're on the range, you there's nothing that can

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go wrong.

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Really, it's like there's no let's say, there's no consequences

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to something going wrong. But when you're about to take

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a golf shot during a round of golf, that's I

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guess when the doubt would would come in.

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That's when you'd have problems, because then you go, if

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I don't get this right, there are consequences.

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Yeah, but you're you're you're switching to a different aspect

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of golf performance here, Fred, because you're starting to talk

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about the concept of psychological performance, whereby, if an individal

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jaw is having all of these thoughts that you're talking about,

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then they haven't got a sense of control over what

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it is that they're trying to achieve. And paying is

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that those thoughts do occur because the individual hasn't developed

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a very systematic way of guiding themselves through that period

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of time that I specialize in, which is that time

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between stepping in and executing the golf shot. You see

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many people recognize that they try and break up the

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golf shot into this concept of a play a think

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think box, and a playbox, whereby you're doing all of

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your strategizing and then you step behind the ball and

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then you stop the thinking and you just move into play. Unfortunately, Fred,

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you can't stop thinking. And that's the point is that

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when you step into play your golf shot, the individual's

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intentional focus if it's not being controlled, introduces all of

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those other erroneous thoughts that you're talking about, and it's

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that the fact that you're trying to stop thinking leaves

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you so vulnerable because you actually need to be really

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focusing your attention during that period of time between stepping

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in and executing. That's when you really need to be concentrating,

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not pretending that everybody's having a great time, because all

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you're doing is leaving yourself vulnerable to a situational event

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that comes in and destroys your ability to swing the

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golf club. So, jumping back moment to that concept of

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throwing a basketball. Thread when you're throwing the basketball, you

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miss the shot, that's okay, you're not going to make

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it ever a shot. But the point is that your

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attention is naturally external. You're not thinking about how to

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throw the ball. You're not thinking about how to throw

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the ball. Your attention needs to be on the basket,

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on the target. Yeah. Now, the concept in golf of

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targeting is very important. It's something we need to talk

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about because there are many theories of golf instruction that

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suggests that you shouldn't have to pay attention to the

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target once you've aligned yourself to it, Fred, because it

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doesn't go anywhere at the end of the day. Once

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you've aligned yourself to it, why do you need to

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think about the target? Well, based on our discussion that

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we've had so far, if you're not thinking about the

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target when you're trying to execute your action, what are

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you choosing to think about? You see the target? Primarily,

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what target are into golf is about is helping a

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person establish that visualization of the target thread as they're

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executing their action. So if their conscious mind is occupied

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with the visualization of the target, then it allows the

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non conscious mind to swing the golf club do so

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because you're giving it a clear statement of intention. Your

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conscious mind has a clear picture of what it's trying

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to achieve, and it allows an unconscious mind to follow through.

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The non conscious mind cannot carry out that action if

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you don't have a clear target in mind. And that's

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the reason why many people struggle with this concept of

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target orientation, because they look at their target threads but

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they don't see it. And because they don't see it,

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when they look back at the ball, their intentional focus

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shifts away from target onto the ball, onto the takeaway

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onto the water, onto the outer bounds, onto don't knuck

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this up. Whatever chooses to jump in becomes the focus

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of your attention at that time, and the non conscious

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mind responds accordingly.

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Colin, I don't understand what you mean by they don't

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see the target.

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If you and I, Fred, were standing on a tea

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box and I was observing you looking down the fairway,

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I wouldn't have a clue what the focus of your

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attention was. All right now, if I was to then

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say to you, Fred, can you see that red roof

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in the distance. By giving you a description of that object,

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I've brought your attention to that object. So you are

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now seeing the object that I've brought your attention to

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now when you're looking down the fairway. Typically what's happening

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is that people are very aware of the water and

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the outer bounds and the bunkers, and oftentimes are drawing

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their attention to the very things that they don't want

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to be hitting the ball out.

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Sure.

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So, the very important thing, Fred, is that in the brain,

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the visual system is quite complex. There are many pathways

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to taking information in Through the eye, it hits the

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back of the brain and then it goes off in

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many different directions. Majority of the information that we process

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in our in our brain, we don't have to attend

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to FRED visually. And what I mean by that is

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we navigate through traffic in our car, processing lots of

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information visually, but we're not paying attention to it. It's

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the same when you're walking and doing anything. We're always

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processing visual information, but we don't attend to everything. When

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we want to attend to something FRED typically what there's

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another process that happens in the brain in which you

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compare the visual imagery that you're looking at with a

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pre existing memory of what it is you're looking at,

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and you use a label to bring a description to

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that object. So when you read, for instance, a paper

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or a book, do you ever hear that internal dialogue

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the internal voice that goes on in your head when

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you're reading a paragraph of information.

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Oh, I have four or five voices in my head

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when I'm reading.

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Look into your schizophrenia. Right. The important thing is the

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question I asked was why do you think, well, when

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you're trying to read, why do you have to use

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that internal dialogue? Because we're processing visual information. Where's the

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internal dialogue coming? From Well. The key thing is Fred,

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is that every single word that you're reading, you're actually

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comparing with a pre existing memory of that visual information

472
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.319
and you're using it. You're using your internal dialogue to

473
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.440
bring the words to the focus of your attention. So

474
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.680
that's the seeing process. Difference between looking at the page

475
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.319
and seeing the information requires your attentional focus to be involved.

476
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.000
I'm with you now, good because it's really important. There's Fred,

477
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.279
that same process that you use when you're reading your

478
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.559
internal dialogue. How is that internal dialogue any different too?

479
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.279
Your thinking process when you're out on the golf course.

480
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.200
You know when the uroneous thoughts are coming in. It's

481
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.640
the same internal dialogue. It's just that it's not coming

482
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.880
off of a page. It's random information that you're pulling

483
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.000
out from your mind. Now, my point is this thread.

484
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.319
If you're looking down the fairway to describe your target,

485
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.640
you've got to see your target. You've got to describe

486
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.799
it to yourself. It's not enough just to look at it.

487
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.680
And it's the same thing applies when you're over your

488
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.519
golf ball. You've got yourself nice and settled over your

489
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.279
golf ball if all you do is look back out

490
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.960
down the fairway. It doesn't bring the target to your

491
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.160
focus of attention unless you describe it to yourself so

492
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.359
that when you feel like you're connected to your target,

493
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.279
you can bring your eyes back to the ball and

494
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.759
still feel connected to it in order to execute the

495
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:12.200
swing at it. So the concept of target orientation involved

496
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.400
looking at something but using your internal dialogue to reinforce

497
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:19.960
what it is that you're looking at. Fred. The reason

498
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.119
why this is important is that if you're using that

499
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.640
internal dialogue to keep your attention on the target, then

500
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.200
you cannot be thinking about your golf swing. In fact,

501
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.480
that's the whole point of this, is that you're trying

502
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:40.039
to keep your attention external in order to allow your

503
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.599
non conscious mind to swing the golf club. If I

504
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.000
was to ask you that I was going to put

505
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.880
a local theater production on, and I was to ask

506
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.759
you that I want you to be the lead in

507
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.480
the show, the lead actor. Now, what would be the

508
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.880
first thing that you'd ask for from me in order

509
00:31:58.920 --> 00:31:59.960
to perform on stage?

510
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:01.240
A script?

511
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.000
This is important. Why would you need a script?

512
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.440
Because if I'm going to be in a play and

513
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.279
memorizing my lines and performing my lines, I got to

514
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.160
know the out line, and I got to know the

515
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:17.559
direction that we're all headed in.

516
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.519
Yeah, exactly. Now, what would happen if you went on

517
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.400
the stage without having learned your lines?

518
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:28.880
You don't want me to add Libya.

519
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.920
Unfortunately, Fred, this is what every golfer is doing on

520
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:35.000
the golf Why did you set me up? This is

521
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.720
the point of attentional focus, Fred, is that as an actor,

522
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.680
you go and perform because you know exactly what it

523
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:46.920
is you're going to deliver. And mentally you've learned your lines,

524
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.680
and we go out there and deliver them, and your

525
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.599
non conscious mind just goes and does whatever it is

526
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.039
that the conscious mind is directing it to do. Now,

527
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.920
the purpose of my work is to help a goal

528
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.039
for develop their own personal scripts that keep their attentional

529
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:10.359
focus systematically occupied with the same tasks every time they

530
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.400
prepare to play a golf shop. So that period of

531
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.720
time between stepping in and executing their swing thread, which

532
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.599
takes about twelve to fourteen seconds, is typically time where

533
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.279
the conscious mind is allowed to run free and they

534
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:32.759
are trying to go through a physical preshot routine. But

535
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:39.599
under the surface, the conscious mind is very variable, and

536
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.839
it's that variability in their conscious thought process, which creates

537
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:50.920
such variability in their outcomes. But the visualization thread that

538
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:57.599
need to happen at execution, which is target orientation, is

539
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.319
denied if the individual does not prepared themselves for that

540
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.799
moment successfully. And what I mean by that is if

541
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.840
there's no proper state management, if there's no proper breathing,

542
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.719
there's no proper awareness of the body before you get

543
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:17.679
to target orientation, then at any single erroneous thought that

544
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:23.079
comes in can elevate the person's anxiety level, the arousal level,

545
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:27.599
and that adrenaline flow stops the muscles from performing as

546
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.480
they would do if they were relaxed. And whatever it is, Fred,

547
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.000
that is choosing to create that arousal means that the

548
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.679
individual's attention must be on something other than target. And

549
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.280
that's the key thing about target. You see, there are

550
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.320
many theories that suggest the target creates anxiety in golfers. Fred,

551
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:51.840
what's your opinion.

552
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:56.280
On that the anxiety produced by.

553
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.559
I'm trying to figure out, is this like we create

554
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.079
this on ourselves, this anxiety, dude of and is this

555
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.679
are we trying to get away from that completely?

556
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.679
Well, the point is, Fred, the anxiety doesn't happen to you.

557
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:15.159
You create that.

558
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.400
You create it by how you choose to think at

559
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:23.280
that moment. Now, if you're you're you're only having those

560
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.039
erroneous thoughts because you haven't developed a systematic process to

561
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:33.159
keep those erroneous thoughts at bay. You know, you can't

562
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.119
have these anxious, anxiety provoking thoughts if you're busy focused

563
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.000
on something else that's designed specifically to keep your state

564
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:44.920
correct in order to get target oriented.

565
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.360
But there's so many things to be focused on.

566
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:49.760
No, it's the point, Fred, Well, let me ask you

567
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.119
this question for can you pay attention to more than

568
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.000
one thing at a time?

569
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:54.639
Unfortunately? Yes.

570
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:57.280
Give me an example.

571
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.480
I can be in a conversation with somebody and hear

572
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.159
a conversation going on behind me and following that as.

573
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.440
Well, Okay, well, what's actually happening And you might not

574
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.599
necessarily notice it, but your attention is actually switching between

575
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:16.480
the two very fast. You cannot have your attention in

576
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.360
two places at once. You're aware of one whilst you're

577
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.760
attending to the other, but you're not really attending to

578
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.199
them both at the same time. And it's an important

579
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:31.800
distinction to understand here, because you in effect can't be

580
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.840
attending to two sources of information simultaneously. But you can

581
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:42.079
certainly be aware of sources of information simultaneously. So you

582
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:47.239
can certainly hear something whilst reading. You're aware of the noise,

583
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.760
but you're not necessarily paying attention to it. Your attention

584
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.320
might flick to it, but then come back. Or you

585
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:58.880
might be looking at something that's occupying your attention and

586
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.159
you might hear a noise, your attention flicks to that

587
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.440
and then comes back. It doesn't You're not in two

588
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.360
places at the same time right now.

589
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.599
It definitely flicks. I would, yes, I would agree with

590
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:10.719
you that it flicks back and forth. But it flicks

591
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.880
back so fast that I can pick up and gather

592
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.000
the information from both sides simultaneous. It feels like I'm

593
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:20.119
doing this simultaneously.

594
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:21.280
Is that I can get it here?

595
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.079
Yeah, okay, I got that part, I'll get this part,

596
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.320
and I've got and piecing both of them together.

597
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.480
Yeah, it's an illusion, Fred, but that's the nature of

598
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:28.880
the brain.

599
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.840
Most of what we most of my life, Colin, is

600
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.559
an illusion. I just want you to know you're not alone.

601
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.719
Now, everybody's life is the same. What we're doing within

602
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.519
the brain is often predicting what it is that we

603
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.280
expect to see, rather than actually seeing what is in

604
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.679
front of us. Because the majority of the time we

605
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.639
our brain is in a state of processing information, and

606
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.480
therefore it's doing it at the non conscious, subconscious, unconscious level.

607
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:03.840
We aren't consciously attending everything. We simply cannot. So a

608
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.960
lot of the information that arises into consciousness has already

609
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.079
been predicted by other aspects of your brain. And what

610
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.280
you see is a prediction from what from from from

611
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.719
from your from your brain, not what is actually out there.

612
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.440
And the way I demonstrate this, fred is is to

613
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:25.119
people is have you ever seen little paragraphs written in

614
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.920
which all of the words are spelt incorrectly except for

615
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.440
the first and last letters m H, and you're able

616
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.960
to read it as if it's written correctly. Yeah, well,

617
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.840
there's the predicative process happening. Fred. You're you're reading those

618
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.000
words and you're you're visually processing it. Now, if your

619
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.679
eyes were simply giving you the information to your brain,

620
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:50.679
then what you had been saying would sound like the

621
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.159
garbage that's actually written on the page. But it doesn't

622
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.840
because what you're doing is you're taking the visual information

623
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.280
comparing it to a memory. You're then using your internal

624
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.440
dialogue to say, well, that's what it was saying, that's

625
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.920
what it says, when it wasn't that at aol we see,

626
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:10.880
so your predictive nature of the brain confused or it

627
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.159
convinces us that we're seeing something that we're not. And

628
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.840
that's the reason why targeting is important in golf in

629
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.960
respect of we don't see the target unless we actually

630
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.760
support it with that internal dialogue process. In essence, what's happening, Fred,

631
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.880
is we might be looking down the fairway, but unless

632
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.519
we describe the target to ourselves, we don't get a

633
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.079
chance to see the target when we're looking at the ball.

634
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:39.960
Can you give me a practical demonstration of how to

635
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.480
focus on get to find your target, focus on your target,

636
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.679
and only focus on your target through the completion of

637
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:48.119
your swing.

638
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.360
Yeah. Well, the key thing is, Fred, we've got to

639
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.159
establish first of all, the difference between our desired, our

640
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.480
outcome and our target, because there is a lot of

641
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.639
people that suggest that the target creates anxiety. Now, what

642
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.599
creates anxiety in golfers often is the fact that they

643
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.280
are thinking about their desired outcome for the shot, which

644
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.840
it happens to be where the ball will be finishing. Now,

645
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.519
in golf, we cannot control that, and if you are

646
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.320
paying attention or trying to control where the ball will finish,

647
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.199
that happens to be a future event, which can create

648
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.800
an anxiety response because you're not in control of that.

649
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.360
This sounds like a contradiction to the target though.

650
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.800
Yeah, but the desired outcome is not the same as

651
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.480
the target more often than not, Fred, And that's the

652
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.800
reason why this discussion is important.

653
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.800
That's what to me, that's a very thin line.

654
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:48.639
Well, it might be. It might be a thin line,

655
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.320
but let me give you an example. Take let's take

656
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.400
chipping for example, thread where you're going to chip a

657
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.400
ball onto the green and your hole is obviously on

658
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:02.320
the other side of the green. Clear your desired outcome

659
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:04.480
for that shot is to get the ball in the hole.

660
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:06.880
But what would be your target?

661
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:16.199
What would be my target on the chip? Yeah, is

662
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.360
to me, the target would be like a three four

663
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.880
foot circle around the hall. Try to get it in

664
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:23.360
that area.

665
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.719
Okay, you see what I'm advocating is that with a chip,

666
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.800
you would typically chip the ball onto the green and

667
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.119
you would identify a landing spot, a.

668
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.239
Landing spot, Okay, yeah, right, so my target would be

669
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.199
the landing spot, and then pick the landing spot and

670
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.599
try to guesstimate how much role I'm going to get

671
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.519
if it lands there and will it get me into

672
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.440
that circle? So yeah, I guess the target would be

673
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:48.159
the landing spot.

674
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.800
Yeah, that's important for it because you've already differentiated. You

675
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.800
know what your desired outcome is, but you separated that

676
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.960
from your target, and ultimately your target selection to term,

677
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.880
means what club it is you're going to use to

678
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.480
play that shot, all right, So the target is very

679
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.239
different to your desired outcome and when you're trying to

680
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.320
play the shot and effectively, you are aligning yourself to

681
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.079
the target point, not to the desired outcome.

682
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.079
Okay, because if.

683
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.880
You've chosen the right target and you choose the right club, Fred,

684
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.239
you'll get the desired outcome. So psychological, can you see

685
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.119
that there's a difference between what your target is and

686
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.920
your desired outcome on that shot? On that shot, yes, yeah,

687
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.800
But that same principle can be extrapolated to every single

688
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.360
other golf shot. First of all, you've got to ask

689
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.119
yourself when you're stepping into a golf shot, what's my

690
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.639
desired outcome for this? But then you've got to say

691
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.239
what's my target for this golf shot? And very rarely

692
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.679
will they be the same. Your desired outcome and your

693
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.639
target won't be the same place because we don't hit

694
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:04.039
perfectly straight shots when we're playing golf, and so because

695
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.880
we cannot control where the ball finishes thread we can

696
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.360
only control where the ball starts. The idea of target

697
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:14.679
orientation is to establish what on that starting line you're

698
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.480
hitting the ball at that's going to allow you to

699
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.159
achieve your desired outcome. So you put yourself on a

700
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.559
T box, for instance, and you look down the fairway.

701
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:26.920
You see where you want the ball to finish on

702
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.519
the fairway, But that landing spot on the fairway isn't

703
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:35.199
where your target will be your target because because there's

704
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:40.039
nothing there, often that gives you a clearness of for

705
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.119
the visualization process. So you're typically what you do is

706
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:50.039
you find a line on that either on that line

707
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.679
where you're wanting the desired outcome, or you might even

708
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:56.599
move left or right of that desired outcome and establish

709
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.800
a target that's on your target line. So it might

710
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.119
be something that's off the golf course. It might be

711
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.880
a roof on a house, or it might be an

712
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.760
electricity part on it might be a tree trunk. But

713
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.920
it's always something Fred that gives you a clear visual

714
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:17.079
connection with where you're going to start that ball, Because

715
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.119
it's that target that you're trying to commit the swing towards,

716
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:24.199
knowing full well you'll get your desired outcome. You've got

717
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.920
to let go of that outcome and just trust that

718
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.079
the club you've chosen and a target you're selecting will

719
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.920
help you achieve that desired outcome.

720
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.719
When I'm standing behind the ball looking down the fairway,

721
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.880
you know, setting my visualizing where I want the ball to,

722
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.400
where my target is, but I also look at the

723
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.280
end target the ball, and then a point just beyond

724
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.679
the ball as where I want to start the line.

725
00:44:59.280 --> 00:44:59.960
Is that my target?

726
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.239
No, no, it's not, Fred. You're only using that point

727
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.239
behind the ball as your alignment. It's helping your alignment

728
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:11.079
to your chosen target. But once you've aligned yourself to

729
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.199
your chosen target, Fred, you can you forget about that

730
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.960
spot in front of the ball because that was only

731
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:21.519
used to help for alignment purposes. But the key thing

732
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.440
is that once you've established that you're going to hit

733
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.360
the ball towards a pre determined target that is visually

734
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.559
attractive to you. You know, like you're always looking for

735
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:38.519
something that's easy to see, because that's the whole purpose

736
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.400
of target orientation. You're trying to give yourself. You're trying

737
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.559
to make it easy for yourself by giving yourself a

738
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:48.280
clear target. If all you do is try and establish

739
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.559
when you want the ball to finish on the fairway,

740
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.320
you end up with just a big load of fairway

741
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.440
and not an awful lot of focus. You don't give

742
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.639
yourself a clear focal point to get in your ball

743
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:06.599
to wards. And again you're psychologically stepping into a place

744
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.000
which can be creating the anxiety response because you're trying

745
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.320
to control where the ball finishes and you simply cannot

746
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:18.159
do that and therefore being a future event, you create

747
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:21.280
the anxiety response due to the lack of control that

748
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.480
you perceive over it. So you know, if I was

749
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:26.480
to stand in front of you, fred hands out, you

750
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.320
get you throw the ball to me, the target and

751
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.400
the desired outcome would be the same my hands and

752
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.280
as I move away from you, you still recognize that

753
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.199
the target and the hands are the same place, but

754
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.639
you've got absolute freedom in your actions because you've got

755
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.800
that clear target to throw the ball at. If I

756
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:49.480
put my hand just as you're about to throw the

757
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.159
ball and I put my hands behind my back, two

758
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.920
things typically happen. I make you think where's my target?

759
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.960
And I stop your flower of action. Well, that's exactly

760
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.079
what happens when you look back at the bull thread

761
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.320
and you haven't got a clear statement of intention in

762
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.880
your mind, because your attention then shifts to something else,

763
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.840
and that creates the funky swings that people experience. More

764
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.239
often than not, it's the lack of clear intension with

765
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:23.960
aligned attention that creates the poor golf swing. So this

766
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.480
concept of putting targeting is important as well in putting

767
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.760
because unless you've got a straight put to a hole,

768
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.639
the target and the target and your desired outcome are

769
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.920
also different. You know, if you've got an uphill put

770
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.719
thread to a hole that's a straight uphill part, your

771
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:45.960
typical target point will move behind the hole because you're

772
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.440
having to put more force onto the ball to allow

773
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:52.400
it to go uphill. So you're putting through the hole

774
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.960
basically to ensure that you've given the ball enough energy,

775
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.840
and if it's a downhill put you clearly don't want

776
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.239
to be putting out to act the hole. You put

777
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.599
a spot in front of the hole and that becomes

778
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:10.079
your focal point for your part. So you're establishing how

779
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:12.960
much energy you have to impart on the golf ball

780
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.559
based on your target selection point. And as soon as

781
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.480
you start to introduce break left and right, your target

782
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.239
point starts to shift left and right of the whole

783
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:29.159
as well. So you've always got Fred the desired outcome

784
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.519
of getting the ball in the hole. But if you

785
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.840
actually attempt to part always with your attention on the

786
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.920
whole when you step into and an align yourself to

787
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.039
your chosen line, but then switch your attention back to

788
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.880
the hole, what actually happens, Fredd, is you end up

789
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.199
pushing or pulling the ball off of the target line

790
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.559
because you're thinking about the desired outcome rather than a

791
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:01.320
target point on that line that you've chosen. There's a

792
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.440
system out there called am point which is excellent for

793
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.000
green reading. It teaches you.

794
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.840
Yeah, we've talked about it and we've had them on

795
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:08.199
the show.

796
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.679
Okay, well, look the idea of it, Fred is the

797
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.239
fact that it establishes what your line is. It gives

798
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.719
you great confidence to know that's the line that you're

799
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.840
going to put on. Where different, where I differ from

800
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.480
that system is that they advocate that the target or

801
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.559
the aim point is always perpendicular effectively to the whole,

802
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.159
So it's, you know, perpendicular to where the hole is.

803
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.119
I don't agree with that because clearly there's many times

804
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.480
where the ball goes nowhere near perpendicular to the whole.

805
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:39.800
You only have to put it a few inches and

806
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.880
it will roll off and break and do all sorts

807
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.400
of things. So your target point is on that aim line,

808
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.599
but it's not the ain point that they are advocating,

809
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.960
because again it's a great system for green reading. But

810
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.039
once you've got your line, the advocate is then suggesting

811
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:58.800
that what you need to do and is establish how

812
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:03.480
hard or how how much you need to control the putter.

813
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.639
You know, what speed do you need to put on

814
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.800
the putt. But that's bringing your attention back to the

815
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.280
conscious control of the putter head, and that again destroys

816
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.159
the putting stroke because you're consciously trying to control that

817
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.480
stroke again thread So the idea of targeting is to

818
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.840
keep your attention external and allows the non conscious to

819
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:29.000
put the ball. And that's the reason why I love

820
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.519
the Green reading system. I just disagree with where the

821
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.960
individual's attention is taken when they then have to put,

822
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.920
because again, there is nothing that we perform by consciously

823
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:45.880
controlling our action, and therefore by staying external, by staying target,

824
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.119
iron did on target instead of outcome, you start to

825
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:55.000
separate the difference psychologically. But also all you're recognizing with

826
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.239
a put thread is you can't do anything with the

827
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.320
putter other than put the ball on a straight line.

828
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.760
It is designed to do nothing other than hit a

829
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.199
ball on a straight line. So you've got to establish

830
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.320
the line that you're going to send it on and

831
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.840
how far down that line your target point will be

832
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.039
to allow that ball to break off towards your desired outcome,

833
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:20.440
which is the whole you follow. So you don't always

834
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.679
hit the target. Fred. The point of target orientation is

835
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.440
not to hit the target. In fact, it's only on

836
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.519
chipping where you actually hit you have an opportunity to

837
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.079
hit the target that you've chosen. But every other shot

838
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.679
with target orientation, what you're doing is giving yourself a

839
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.280
sense of commitment to something in the distance that will

840
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.840
allow the non conscious self to react to that target,

841
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.639
and if you've chosen the right target, you get your

842
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.280
desired outcome. And that applies to every golf shot. So,

843
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.119
as I said, when the idea of this work of

844
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.880
developed thread is the individual allows them to step into

845
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:02.000
every golf shot regardless of where I'm not on a

846
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.760
tea box or on a putting green. They can apply

847
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.800
the same mental process to preparing to play for the shot.

848
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.840
So you don't actually see driving, chipping, pitching, putting as

849
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.960
different disciplines. They are all just different golf clubs, but

850
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:22.159
you apply the same mental discipline to them. That simplifies

851
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.000
the game thread because you're ultimately just following the same

852
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:27.519
script every time you step in to play a golf shot.

853
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.519
The only difference you have is identifying what your chosen

854
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:35.000
target is, which will determine what club you're going to

855
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:40.519
use to play that shot and the real challenges. So

856
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.119
again what I'm saying is that target orientation is trying

857
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:50.079
to help golfers be in control of events. So the

858
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:53.880
target is something that you are in control of, You've

859
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.360
chosen it yourself, and you're ultimately hitting the ball towards it.

860
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.559
You're not trying to control wear the ball finishes. In

861
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.840
this instance that you cannot control weather ball finishes. But

862
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:09.119
the game, if you've chosen the right target and chosen

863
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:11.960
the right club, then you've just got to trust the

864
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.760
fact that based on your chosen you know your selections,

865
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.639
that you'll get your desired outcome. But golf is not

866
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.280
a game of perfect as we know. It's a game

867
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:28.119
of identifying how do you achieve the best outcomes based

868
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.760
on the fact that you've got the opportunity to choose

869
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.199
what it is your targets are. It is interesting, Fred,

870
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:37.800
when it comes to putting, it's a little bit more

871
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.480
difficult because in effect, we don't really get a choice

872
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.159
of targets. You know, if we've read the green and

873
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.480
established the line, then we need to find that target

874
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:54.400
point on that line. But if we choose a different line,

875
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.400
then we've got to choose a different target point. It's

876
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:01.800
you know, there's nothing concrete there for you to say

877
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.840
that's definitely my target. It comes down to you being

878
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.599
intuitive as to how much energy you have to impart

879
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.599
on that golf ball to allow gravity to pull it

880
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:16.880
towards your whole, and all of this stuff is again

881
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.920
it's beyond your control. All you can do is assess

882
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:26.599
the shot, choose your target, and hit your ball towards

883
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.559
the chosen target. Now, to get to that place of

884
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.840
target orientation, Fred, you've got to prepare yourself mentally as

885
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.880
you step in in order to give yourself a chance

886
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:45.079
to visualize that target that you've chosen. Otherwise than the

887
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:48.360
reason why target orientation hasn't worked for probably people that

888
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:52.079
have tried it is that as you step in, the

889
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:56.719
erroneous thoughts that come along can elevate arousal. When you're

890
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.960
looking down the fairway, you're seeing all of the hazards

891
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.880
and when you look back at the ball you're thinking

892
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.960
about swing for target is nowhere to be seen. And

893
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:10.199
you know it's natural then to believe that the poor

894
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.679
golf shark was caused by your poor swing, as if

895
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.559
the swing itself was the problem, not the fact that

896
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.239
it wasn't getting any clear statement of intention as to

897
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:23.679
what to do. And that comes back to you can't

898
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.400
become target oriented on the golf course, Fred, unless you

899
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:31.679
practice target orientation on the range. Because this has to

900
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.920
become predominant mentality in order for you to take it

901
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:37.280
out to the golf course.

902
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:39.760
And do you find that more people on the range

903
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:43.559
that they're focused on just striking the ball over and

904
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.480
over as opposed to using a target.

905
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.360
Well, they might have a target thread, but they're not

906
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:54.519
actually paying attention to you, you see, the whole purpose

907
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.719
of my work is to help people understand how to

908
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.199
effectively manage their state in order to get to this

909
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.880
state of target orientation. You can't get your state right

910
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.760
if you don't have control over your self talk, and

911
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:12.280
you can't then get your attention in the right place

912
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.559
if you're or on target if your self talk is

913
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:20.000
out of control. You see, So it's an interaction, Fred,

914
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.880
You've got to get your state right to open up

915
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.000
your ability to focus. But you can't focus until you

916
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.920
get your state right. So you have to have proper

917
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:32.400
breathing strategies and techniques as you're preparing to execute in

918
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.760
order to really open up your ability to get to

919
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.760
that target orientation. The whole purpose of this work, Fred,

920
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.920
as i said, is to get to that place where

921
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.400
you ultimately experience your freedom in your physical actions, just

922
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.840
as you would do hitting a baseball or using a hammer.

923
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.039
It's just a tool that you're using to carry out

924
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.960
a task. You're not thinking about how to use the tool.

925
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.079
We've been into this conversation for fifty nine minutes now, Colin,

926
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:11.360
and I want to I know, I know, I can't.

927
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.079
I looked up at like you're kidding fifty nine minutes so,

928
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:18.559
but what I really wanted to get into. I think

929
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.760
we've gotten the point and the understanding of target orientation

930
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.119
as you've been talking about. I really wanted to talk

931
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:27.400
about the stage of skills if I if I've got

932
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:32.079
this correct, from unconscious and competence all the way through

933
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.320
unconscious competence, can we cover that?

934
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.400
Yeah? Absolutely, Fred. The key thing is is that these

935
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.400
stages of learning that are often presented to people, the

936
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:48.039
idea of these stages is that we move from a

937
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:53.239
process of unconscious incompetence, which is where we don't really

938
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.400
know the skills that we need to learn before we

939
00:57:56.519 --> 00:58:01.119
start to develop the skills. But once we underst acquiring understanding,

940
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.639
we start to become what's called unconscious competent, whereby we

941
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.000
sorry conscious.

942
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:15.519
Aha, it's not just me, okay, all right, we started

943
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:23.800
unconscious incompetence, yeah, and the next stage would be conscious incompetence.

944
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:27.960
Yeah, so we go through a series of repetitions in

945
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:33.159
which we are focusing on the skill. And this conscious

946
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:38.360
incompetence is where most golfers are trying to develop their swing.

947
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.039
And many people, through repetition start to show some skill

948
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.519
and they develop what is conscious competence. You see, they're

949
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:52.000
still thinking about the swinging of the golf clubs at

950
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:55.599
this point, but they are becoming better than those people

951
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:01.079
who have just started. And once you've started to develop

952
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:07.400
that proficiency in normal life skills, we shift our We

953
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:13.039
shift those motor skills to a state of unconscious competence,

954
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so we stop consciously trying to control the motor skill

955
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so that state of unconscious competence thread does not happen

956
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through repetition. Which is the biggest mistake people make is

957
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that they believe if they keep practicing the same way,

958
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they will get to a place of trust in that skill.

959
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The only plan you get to a place of trust

960
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.760
in the skill is when you actually stop paying attention

961
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.639
to it, and the way you achieve that in golf

962
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:51.760
is by switching your attention away from it and onto

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00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:56.840
the target. That shift thread happens naturally in most other

964
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.360
life skills because we naturally want to be int in

965
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where we're going.

966
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But you have to have some confidence in your golf

967
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swing to get there, so you can let go of it, don't.

968
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You, Yeah, clearly, Fred, And this comes this comes back

969
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:21.599
to how how you acquire the skill, And hopefully you'll

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have an opportunity to talk in detail with my with

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01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:29.360
my partner who spent his life helping people understand that

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01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:34.199
the skills acquisition process, you cannot have confidence in a

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01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:38.960
skill that's not obviously been developed, but how that skill

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01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:46.360
is developed, Fred, it requires you having to allow yourself

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01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.360
to shift your attention away from that skill. You will

976
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.400
stop yourself from ever getting to that place of trusting

977
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.840
in it whilst you constantly only focus on it. So

978
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purpose of the work that I'm doing for is to

979
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.000
give people an alternative way of practicing at the range

980
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.039
called a trusting mode. So if you imagine there's a

981
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:10.320
training mode and a trusting mode. Training mode is where

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01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:12.639
an individual always gone to the range to work on

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01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:18.000
a skill, a technical skill, when they've spent maybe half

984
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.800
an hour doing that, and how that's being done can

985
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.639
be significantly improved. Which but I'm not going to get

986
01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.800
involved in that discussion. That's where I'd like you to

987
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:33.159
talk to my partner. But once you put aside the

988
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.960
training mentality Fred, by switching into trust mode, what actually

989
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:43.760
happens is you stop the analysis of your swing. You

990
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:47.159
simply allow that swing to be what it is as

991
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:51.119
it is developed. And so by developing a way of

992
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:57.239
trust in that swing, by practicing breathing, state management, target orientation,

993
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.320
you start to allow your attention and to shift external

994
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.920
and your motor skill spread automatically start to move up

995
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:13.039
into that state of unconscious competence because you're not consciously

996
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:19.239
inhibiting them. It's the conscious inhibitor inhibiting of the motor

997
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:23.519
skill because you're consciously always trying to control it. That

998
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:28.440
stops that from happening, you know, and that comes into again.

999
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.320
It's very important to understand that whilst you're trying to

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01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.079
develop a motor skill, you should also be training your

1001
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.239
attention at the same time, but that isn't happening today.

1002
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:46.119
So by using doctor Pipero's methods, you're able to keep

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01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:51.519
the conscious mind engaged with a specific command whilst you're

1004
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:55.679
allowing the non conscious mind to move the golf club

1005
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:59.199
into the appropriate positions you need for a golf swing.

1006
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.280
The idea FRED is that we don't have Well, there

1007
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:10.639
are systems out there that do keep people within a framework,

1008
01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.199
i e. You know, when we're sitting in a car learning,

1009
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.159
we're constrained by the vehicle. When we ride a bike,

1010
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.480
we're constrained by the vehicle. When we try and swing

1011
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.440
a golf club, there's nothing constraining us, is there. And

1012
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.480
yet there are systems out there, like the caves and

1013
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.480
others that allow you to be effectively training your body

1014
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.519
by but whilst being told whether or not you're in

1015
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:39.239
the correct positions through verbal feedback biofeedback. But at that time, fread,

1016
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.000
the conscious mind is still being left to its own

1017
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:46.559
devices and it's typically involved in the swing. We need

1018
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:48.519
to get the conscious mind out of the swing in

1019
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:52.239
order for that skills to move to that place of

1020
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:56.920
unconscious confidence that we're trying to achieve. And so yes,

1021
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:02.000
it does require golf does require an element of time

1022
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:05.239
where you do develop the skill. But if you're trying

1023
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.639
to develop the motor skill whilst hitting golf balls, your

1024
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:12.920
attention is simply so disparate. It's on so many different

1025
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.239
things that you really don't have an opportunity to ever

1026
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:21.599
develop the single pointed concentration that I'm talking about through

1027
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:26.400
target orientation. So what we're trying to advocate is that

1028
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:31.760
when a person learns is working on their technique, taking

1029
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.079
the advice that's being given to them by their coach,

1030
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:36.880
it's not enough for them to be hitting golf balls

1031
01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:40.840
and reacting to the outcome and trying to consciously change

1032
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:46.400
their motor skill, because you never develop a consistent motor

1033
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:50.000
pattern for swinging that golf club because you're always consciously

1034
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.159
trying to change it. It's like having a piece of

1035
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:57.440
jelly fred you never let set. You constantly shake it around,

1036
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:01.519
and you're ending up developing competing memory, which you never

1037
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.000
really know which ones you're going to draw on to

1038
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:08.400
swing that golf club. And so you're trying to ultimately

1039
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.679
allow the conscious mind to be parked for a time,

1040
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.199
to allow the non conscious self to move the body

1041
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.920
to the appropriate positions, and you start to through repetition

1042
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.960
of these exercises, you start to develop a proficient golf swing.

1043
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.599
And in fact, if there's no ball in place, you know,

1044
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.000
you ever notice how great people's practice swings are when

1045
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.119
on the golf course, and yet when they step up

1046
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:37.239
to the golf ball, that swing kind of disappears. Absolutely, Yeah,

1047
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:41.119
that's what's happening. Fred. The intentional focus is very different

1048
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:45.400
when you're trying to hit the golf ball because you swing,

1049
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:48.519
you're no longer just swinging the club through to your target.

1050
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.079
You're actually trying to hit the golf ball or trying

1051
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:54.719
to control the swing, and that destroys the swing. So

1052
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.679
what we're advocating is that you develop a proficiency in

1053
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:01.159
your golf swing. Start off development the swing. Put a

1054
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.559
tea down on the ground, starting that without evaluating where

1055
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.440
the tea's going, just start feeling your golf swing is

1056
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:13.280
starting to be consistent. And when you start to introduce

1057
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.320
the ball, you'll notice that the individual your attention starts

1058
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.239
to go to the ball. And it's that in itself,

1059
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.400
which is is a problem because you end up trying

1060
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.360
to just hit the ball rather than swing through it

1061
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.000
to the target. So this whole process thread involves in

1062
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:34.800
slowly introducing these concepts so that people can transition through

1063
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:39.079
a skilled acquisition's phase relatively quick compared to what they're

1064
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:42.440
doing today. You know, years and years and years and

1065
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:45.800
years and years of repetition and practice doesn't manifest as

1066
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.119
trust on the golf course. Something is wrong. You would

1067
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.119
think that people could learn to trust their golf swings,

1068
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.719
but they never do well. That's because of how they

1069
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:01.880
are practicing, learning and playing the game. And what we're

1070
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.880
trying to do through our program is to just introduce

1071
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:08.440
a new set of skills that will make the most

1072
01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:13.119
of the great PGA instruction that they're being given. But

1073
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:17.079
they need to learn how to shift their attention away

1074
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.159
from that in order to experience what it's like to

1075
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:22.239
play golf, not just swing golf clubs.

1076
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.000
Excellent, all right, Well listen, Colin, I think we need

1077
01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:29.400
to wrap this up. We're seventy minutes into the conversation.

1078
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.400
Yeah, sorry, Frank, we told total die.

1079
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:35.199
I'm sure obviously obviously we can, but I to well

1080
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:37.559
respect to the audience, and actually I'd like to ask

1081
01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:38.679
the audience a favor.

1082
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:41.199
Does this resonate with you?

1083
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.360
I know we've talked about putting, We've talked about you know,

1084
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.960
aim point, We've talked about various mechanics and thing and

1085
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.800
mental game things like that, but this specifically, how does

1086
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:54.199
this resonate with you? Does this work for you or

1087
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:58.000
you get this at all, And if I would love

1088
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.440
just click on a Hey Fred button and send email

1089
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.480
tell me what you thought of this conversation with Colin.

1090
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:04.079
Hopefully you got to hear the entire thing.

1091
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.360
And again it give how people get in touch with

1092
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:11.000
you where you are and how to work with you

1093
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:12.280
if they want more.

1094
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:17.119
My website is Target Oriented Golf. That's that's Target oriented

1095
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.880
which is r I E N TED golf dot com.

1096
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:27.680
I provide remote services. I ultimately help golfers. They go away,

1097
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:32.000
they video their pre shot routines and through a series

1098
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:36.600
of training manuals and videos, we help change their practice

1099
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.359
and methods so that they develop a new mental pre

1100
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:42.880
shot procedure, not a routine. The idea of it is.

1101
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:47.000
A routine is something you do without thought. That's the

1102
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.560
last thing that we need in order to get our

1103
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:52.279
focus in the right place and the same place every time.

1104
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:55.159
So what I do is help them develop a mental

1105
01:08:55.359 --> 01:09:00.920
procedure which will give them a very disciplined, stmatic approach

1106
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.359
to every golf shot and it simplifies their golf. But

1107
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.119
it takes time to practice and learn them Afraid, it's

1108
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:08.479
no quick fix here, Fred.

1109
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:11.560
No, there never is they're never is in golf, Well

1110
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.880
there is the Golf Smarter podcast is Colin.

1111
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:18.079
It's been like I said, it's been eight years, it's

1112
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:21.319
been six years. It's been a great talking to you again.

1113
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:24.399
I'm so glad that you're still focused on your target

1114
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.520
and that you're keeping us focused on our target.

1115
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.359
It's really been great to have you back on the show.

1116
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.159
It's been a pleasure, Fred and I can't thank you

1117
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:33.439
enough for giving me the opportunity