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Simple Tools to Breaking 100, 90, or 80! featuring Josh Willard

Simple Tools to Breaking 100, 90, or 80! featuring Josh Willard
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GS#474 February 3, 2015. Josh Willard, an instructor at Peacock Gap in San Rafael,CA joins us in studio to discuss simple ways to reach new success. As close as we sometimes get to reaching our lowest score, cracking the barrier to break 100 - 90 - or 80 eludes us all too often.

If you have a question about whether or not Fred is using any of the methods, equipment or apps we’ve discussed, or if you’d like to share a comment about what you’ve heard in this or any other episode, please write because Fred will get back to you. Either write to golfsmarterpodcast@gmail.com or click on the Hey Fred button, at golfsmarter.com

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Hi, This is Rick Patrick or for Laardel, Florida, and

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I usually play it calling me West Golf Course.

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Golf Smarter Nerder four hundred and seventy four published on

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February three, twenty fifteen.

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Especially for the guys that are trying to break ninety.

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There's a lot of simple things you can do to

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get better. Some of the things I'd suggest for guys.

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A simple thing like an impact bag is really really good,

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even with the golf club. If you're really crazy about it,

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just go to your local golf store. Get yourself a

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seven nine, Maybe get a mold and grip put onto it,

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or training grips some people might call them. Get yourself

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like an impact bag. If you're at home, what you

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can do is throw your bag in the backyard and

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just push it around, make a few small swings, just

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try to build up that feeling of what the correct

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impact position is. If you start pushing the bag, it's

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going to get your body angles better as well your

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body and wrist angles. And also if you've got a mirror,

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I get yourself in front of a mirror because what

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I generally try and do. A lot of guys anyways,

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when they come, they set up son't very good, so

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I try and get them set up the correct way.

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Obviously when they leave it probably feels a little foreign,

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but it's like anything, if you do it enough, it

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just becomes a new normal because you're gonna find with

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golf the fields are always constantly changing, but visually it's

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always going to look the same.

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Simple tools to breaking one hundred, ninety or eighty with

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Josh Willard, this is Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf

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Smarter Podcast.

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Josh, thanks very thanks for having me here today.

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Thanks for coming into the studio. This is great.

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We met just a few weeks ago out on the

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driving range.

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Over at Pickoar Gap. That's correct, Yeah, and you're teaching

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there now or that's right.

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Yeah.

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I actually work at Pickcock Gap five days a week

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and I work another day down in Alameter Chucker Rick

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at Golf Complex.

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Okay, all right, I can tell you by your accent,

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your local that's right. Yeah, No, originally from local to

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Marine County.

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No, originally from Sydney, from Sydney, Australia and been in

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the US for about four years.

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Now, okay, and would write you here? Where'd you leave?

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Before I came to America, I was actually working in

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Austria in Lynz And before that I was working in

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Singapore for three years. And then before that I played

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on the tour for about eight years. Which tour I've

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had status on the Australasian Tour, on the Asian Tour

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and also on the South African.

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Really really and what are the differences between each tour?

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Is it just another level up or I.

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Think with those three tours maybe the Asian Tour possibly

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slightly stronger because there's more events, there's a bit more money.

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The Australian Tool of the Australasian Tours, it's known probably

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they've lost quite a few events compared to say fifteen

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years ago. But they're all really sort of tours that

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get the guys starting tour, to get you onto the

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PGA Tour or to get you onto the European Tour.

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And you obviously left Australia a while ago.

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That's right. I left about thirteen.

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Years ago, okay, all right, and this was to pursue

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a career in professional golf.

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Yeah, you know, I played for eight years before that.

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I was actually an apprentice golf pro. I got my

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PGA status in Australia, my Class A status, and then,

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like most guys when they're sort of twenty one twenty two,

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when you finish your Class A, you want to go

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try and play golf professionally. So I did that for

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about eight years, and then I got to around twenty nine.

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I figured that I sort of wasn't working out how

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I hope it would, and I had to pursue something else.

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So I really enjoyed teaching, so I thought to go

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down that route. Yeah.

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Very different skill set teaching than being a player.

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Yeah, definitely. You know, I guess with well, because he being.

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A player, you're in your own head, right, that's true,

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and teacher you've got to bring it out.

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That's got to be able to articulate it.

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Absolutely.

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So what is the hardest part to make that transition?

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I guess it's just trying to get the knowledge on

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how to instruct people, how to get people better. And

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I guess that just takes time. You sort of like

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any skill, you've got to develop it over over years.

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And I guess I've been doing this for now thirteen years,

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so I feel like I'm getting better every year at it,

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and you know, communicating and just getting people to improve.

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How are you able to translate your thoughts into instruction.

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I mean, let me get you were probably a natural

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player growing up. You just immediately were starting to play

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really well when you were a kid and fell in

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love with the game.

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Yeah. I think I was introduced to the game through

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my grandfather. And in Australia when I was a kid,

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you couldn't you couldn't join a golf club til fourteen.

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You could still get onto the public golf courses and play,

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but if you want to join like a golf club,

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you have to be at least forteing to start.

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Okay, all right, So being a strong player as a

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kid and wanting to succeed and then going to the

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different tours and then going into teaching. To me, it's

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natural players are not necessarily the best instructors. I've always

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thought like the best teachers were the C students, not

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the A plus students, because the A students it comes

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naturally to them, it's easy, and they don't understand how

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people struggle with whatever they're teaching.

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So do you have do you get.

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Frustrated when you're instructing and people just aren't getting what

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you're trying to You're trying to teach them because you

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think it's so obvious.

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Well, I guess as an instructor, you have to have

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some patience. Yeah, you're dealing with people that maybe play

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golf once a week or once a month or once

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a year, or they're just starting up. But you know,

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as far as the instructions concerned, I really feel that

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you've got to keep it really simple and for people

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to get better, I just feel that you've just got

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to keep it really basic. And to me, the way

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that the tour players play, they've got maybe more flawed.

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You know, they've got a lot of compensations in their

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swings and they can make that work. But for the

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average person, for me, they need something simpler. You know

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that they need to have, you know, less motion to

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it all to make it repeat.

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That's an interesting idea is how the pro players. The

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better players can adjust from shot to shot on their swing,

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and yet the amateur has to really learn how to

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have a swing. And then you go out on the

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course and these guys who are struggling to break ninety

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or going oh I knew what I did wrong then,

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or yeah, I got to shape this one around the tree.

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It's like, really, you have that shot in your back? Really?

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Really?

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Come on? Really?

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Yeah?

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Well, you know, I guess. I guess for the professionals

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that obviously got more time to work at it, they're

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a lot more talented, really, they're or more athletic than

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say the average person. Whereas the average guys, it's I

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guess he's out there to try and have some fun

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and and you know he's going to be a little uh,

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a little more all over the place, I guess, as

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far as you know, off the tee, and he's gonna

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have to try and create shots to get back get

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the ball back into playing. Yeah, and that's that's that's it.

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That's why I guess goes so difficult.

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You know, Yeah, what what is the So let's let's

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talk about your instruction a bit. What do you like

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to focus on with Let's say somebody who's who's been

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playing the game for a while. They're struggling and they

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don't know what it is that's preventing them from breaking ninety.

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You know, they're in the upper nineties, they're occasionally in

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the broad round, they're in the low hundreds, but they're

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mid and upper nineties, and they just can't get down

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to ninety. And if they break ninety, they it's like

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that would be a major event in their golfing career.

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Well, I feel it with most people. You know, probably

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they're the short game lets them down a little bit.

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You know, for a lot of people, when most people

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come for lessons, what I find is they want to

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learn how to hit the long shots, the long game.

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And then when you talk to them about their game,

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and if they come consistently, you sort of say, well,

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are you spending any time on your short game? And

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most of the time the answer is no, not really.

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But you know, other people they can come and you know,

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they sort of chip and put okay, but they're long

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games rotten, you know, So it just depends on the individual.

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But I find, you know, normally, if their long game's written,

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if you can sort of fix up their long game

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a bit as well. They can drop you know, quite

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a few shots. Just depends on on the individual.

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I guess the long game being after tea.

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Well, just just in general with when you've got a long,

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you know, the long game. As far as the consistency

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of it, you know, most people tend to fight the

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right side of the golf course for the right hander,

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and I think a lot of that just stems from

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the starts and their concepts of where the power comes from.

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Let's let's let me take you on that right there,

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and let's expand on that.

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What does that mean?

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Well, you know, for I guess, the way the game's

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traditionally been taught is is that you know, you're here

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in the US. We've got the Golf Channel, and that's

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sort of like the new and YouTube, I guess, and

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that's like the new golf magazines. You know that the

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golf magazines screwed. I feel sort of have messed people

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up a bit for a long time. But you know,

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the way the game's traditionally been taught is that you know,

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you've got to You've got to get it, get yourself

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over the ball, get yourself comfortable, and then try and

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make this massive, big turn and for most people when

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they try and make, the more they try and turn,

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the more out of position they get. And then once

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they're out of position, they're trying to recover to get

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back into the right position so they can hit the ball.

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And the problem with golf is we don't have a

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lot of time. You know, the club's traveling at seventy

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to one hundred miles an hour, and you don't have

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a lot of time to try and match it all

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up and hit the ball straight. And that's why I

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feel that a lot of people struggle with it.

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Off the tee a bigger problem to swing or the

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club selection.

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Well, I think if people were a little more conservative

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with the selection, you know. I mean, of course some

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you know, it depends on the course, but people tend

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to gravitate, gravitate towards the driver and they feel like

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that's the that's the fun club to hit. But you

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know a lot of the times they.

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Just really that's fun.

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Well it's I guess it all ends in tears a

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lot of the time. But you know, if they sort

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of maybe went towards like a three wood or a

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five wood or even a hybrid off the tee and

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sacrifice a little bit of distance. Sort of their strategy

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was a little better and just got the ball and

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to play and sacrifice the twenty or thirty yards you know. Okay,

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they might have as long as second shot, but they

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probably find that they're playing the ball more off the

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short grass than in the rough and in the trees.

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Absolutely, And then they get themselves into the rough and

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in the trees, going oh I can get there from here.

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Yeah, Well, they just aren't realistic, you know, get they

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when they get the ball out of pause and then

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they're trying to get it back into position. And you know,

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most people, they're playing a shot that's really I might

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pull off ten percent of the time instead of so

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just taking the medicine and chopping the ball back out

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onto the fairway.

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That's interesting.

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You call it taking your medicine and getting back in

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the fairway. And yet it took me a while to realize.

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But once I started figuring out, if I quote unquote

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took my medicine and just put the ball back in

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the fairway, get it into play, I can get the

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next shot onto the green.

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Okay, now I'm putting.

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If I two putt, I bogie the hall, all right.

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So but if I see a slide opening, I'm over

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on the side there, I'm the right. I'm in between

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trees and rough and there's a tall tree in front

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of the green, and there's a bunker in front of

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the green as well. I mean, there's all these things

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that are in my way. But I think, but it's

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only one hundred and thirty yards. I can reach that, right,

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But there's all these obstacles in the way. And I

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go for it, and of course I hit a tree.

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Then I have to go under another one that I'm

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in the bunker. Now all of a sudden, I'm putting

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for a seven. You know, if I to pay it

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takes me five strokes. Where are we not thinking it through?

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Of like what are the consequences here? Oh?

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Definitely I feel that, you know, you know, if you

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looked at that situation, say, like, if you're going to

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invest money, you know you wouldn't put your money into

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something that you feel it you got a ten percent

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chance of making money out of, would you know? You'd

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definitely be a little more conservative with you the way

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you think. But you know, I guess maybe that's the

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attraction with golf you're feeling that. You know, you watch

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golf on t you see Phil Mickelson play and he's

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sort of all over the place and he hits this

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miraculous shot. So we all feel that we can do that,

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you know, and it's obviously that's fun when it comes off.

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But when it doesn't come off, then, you know, then

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we look a bit silly and we rack up a

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big number.

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Big number, again and again and again. I love to

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emphasize getting fitted for clubs. I know that when I

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got fitted for my driver, it really made a big

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difference in the game because I started finding out that

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by hitting more fairways, I'm definitely in position for more pars.

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Whether I have to chip up, you know, close to

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the pen and try to put in one, or I'm

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on the green in regulation, it really does make a

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huge difference when you're playing from the fairway.

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Yeah, absolutely, you know, golf's much easier off the shorter

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grass than when you're in the rough. And like you

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said about getting fitted for the driver, people tend to

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have generally need a lot more loft on their driver

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than what they've got. You know, people like to maybe

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it's a bit of a macho thing. But people like

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to have like a nine or ten degree driver, whereas

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I feel if people had more like an eleven or

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twelve degree driver, Okay, if they really had a good one,

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it may not go as far, but it takes a

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bit more spin off the ball, well, actually takes a

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side spin off the ball. Ball gets a bit more

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up in the air. It's a bit easy to hit.

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It's easy to get the ball into play.

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We've already mentioned a couple times of hitting it far,

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hitting it far, which seems to be the great lure.

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We did an.

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Episode a couple of years ago that we called give

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me ten feet closer than ten yards farther any day

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of the week? Run are we putting the what is

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that attraction of watching the ball fly in the air

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for as long as we can and not realizing and

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not analyzing At the end of the round.

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It's like, Wow, that really was awful.

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I hit my driver twelve times today or fourteen times today,

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and I only made two fairways.

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That this isn't good.

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Yeah, Well, I guess that's the way the game's going,

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isn't It's all about power, whether you're talking about golf

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or tennis or any of those other sports. It's you know,

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the guys hitting the ball.

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Further and only the guys on tour.

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Well that's true, but we see the guys on tour,

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they're the guys that are driving the whole business run.

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Well, are they driving it into the ground with that?

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You know, they were making golf once. Once there was

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this boom of golf course construction going on in the

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country in the early part of the century, right, and

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now nothing's being built in this country because they were

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making them longer and longer and longer, and that only

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appeals to a handful of select players.

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Yeah, well, definitely, I think the courses are getting too long.

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You know, if people played off the right t's. You know,

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Nicholas had a thing out a couple of months ago,

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maybe six months ago, we talked about you know, I

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saw an ad on television here in the States and

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he was talking about play from them from the te's.

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That fits you, and for a lot of people, they

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tend to want to play from the back teas. But

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I think they'd have a lot more fun if they

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sort of moved up and played more off the members

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t's or off you know, the forward tees. Yeah, some

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golf course have like a senior tea or have like

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a member's tea, but people tend to gravitate towards the

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back teas.

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We've got to give We've got to stop giving those

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teas names, because that's part of the stigma that I'm

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not blaming the ladies teas.

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They're not they're red.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Well, they're just the red tea's.

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And they're you know, and I keep going back, and

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I have this conversation with my friends all the time

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when we're out playing. It's like, do you are you

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here to score as low as you possibly can? Then

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why not play up a little closer? What's the big deal?

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Yeah? No, definitely. You know, if you're.

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Not a scratch golfer, friends.

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That's right. You know, if you if you're if you're

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hitting like an eight or a nine iron in instead

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of a five iron, it's going to be a lot

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more fun, and it's going to be more scorable. If

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it's more scorable, you're going to want to play more. So,

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you know, you're more fun if you're shooting lower school.

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I'd much rather hit an eight or nine iron than

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a five or six any day of the week on

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my second shot, yeah.

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I'll go for those.

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Well, yeah, I just have a lot more confidence in

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that shot, and I keep working on the five and

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the six, and then I get out there and it's like, no,

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this is I'm feeling shaky about this.

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This is not good.

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No, definitely, you know, like like that's that's probably the

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biggest criticism with a lot of people is the new

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golf courses that they are building. They're tending to get

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longer and longer and longer, and you know, we're struggling

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to get people to come to golf, and you know,

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if they can make it a little bit easier by

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making it a little bit shorter, I think it. You know,

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you probably keep a lot more people.

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The other thing it's it seems to be so obvious,

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is that people really don't know the distance they hit

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each club. They have an idea of what they've hit

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on the longest shot they've ever had with that club

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and use that as the standard. But that I think

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creates more problems than people are willing to admit. Well,

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people tend to get to sense when you when you're

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talking about.

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Yeah, well you know when you talk to people, say

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how far i'd hit a seven on and they say, well,

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I hit one hundred and seventy yards.

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Well, no, you don't.

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Well maybe if you hit your absolute best one behind

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Yeah exactly, that's a firm like a runway. But and

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yeah's you've got a fifty mile an hour win behind you,

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like you said. But you know, people, the great probably

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the best tip you can give anyone is just take

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an extra club. You know, people tend to always under

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club you know, especially if you played a lot of

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pro ams in my day, and the biggest thing is

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they're always they're always under clubbing.

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Take an extra club.

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Let's talk about your short game intensive sessions that you offer.

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Well, yeah, walk me through that. What does that mean?

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Yeah, well I do them up at peacock gap and

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down an alimeter and basically it lasts for about three hours.

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And what we try and do is we cover all facets.

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We try and cover the putting, the chipping, pitching, bunker shots.

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And that's really when people come. They can really pick

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up shots quite quickly. There.

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Pick up strokes are knocked down on your.

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Skill exactly because you know, a lot of the time

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they've just got the wrong concepts with which club to use.

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And which situation, And if your listeners out there, probably

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your best tip you can give peoples, it's try and

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kick the ball on the ground. You know. The club

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that people tend to gravitate towards is the sand wedge

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and the lob wedge, And I just find with those

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clubs they're great in some situations, but when people pull

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them out in every situation, that's when it gets it

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gets a little trickier. You know, first you get hit

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the ball quite precisely, and then when you've hit, if

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you've hit a precisely, then you've got to land the

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ball precisely as well. So if you can pull a

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seven and eight iron out and just try and run

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the ball along the ground, you know, it's still going

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to fly a little bit, but it might fly maybe,

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you know, depending on the situation, it might fly twenty

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percent through the air and a percent along the ground,

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you know, and you know you can mishit it there

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a little bit more with a seven or eight iron,

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and the ball is going to want to release up

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to the hole.

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Yeah, let's pretend we're here now. Peacock Gap is a

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good example because it's a short game specific kind of course.

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I mean, if you it's not a long course, but

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if you don't have a good short game, you're going

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to struggle on that course.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely, you know that. We've got a new greenkeeper in

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there at the moment, and the last few months he's

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he's really turned it.

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Yeah, hude, you got him. You got him up from

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the Metal Club, which is quite the coup.

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Right, that's right. He was the number two up there

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and he's come down and he's he's really sped the

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greens up. He's lowering the fairways a little bit as well.

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And I think once the summer comes around it gets

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a little warmer, it's going to be a lot more playable.

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It's in great shape right now, it is.

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He's really he's really turned it around. And like you said,

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the golf course itself, it's a fun golf coast to play.

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It's not a long golf course, but it's not some flat.

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It's easy to walk and like you said before, you

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can have a lot of eight and nine pitching wages

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into the hole. So it's quite school where you can

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sort of the greens are a little tricky maybe, but

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you know that sort of balances it out as far

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as you know. That's that's that's the thing I like

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about it. It's not very long, but then it's a bit

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of a challenge once you get around the greens.

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The other thing that's nice about playing Peacock is there's

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not a lot of uphill, downhill lies. You know, the

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ball being above or below your feet.

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That's right, she gets It's it's a pretty flat golf coast.

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Pay Yeah, yeah, it is. That helps a lot.

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Well, let's say we're on a par for our second

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shot leaves us four yards off the green. Were but

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we're in the rough. It's not it's not the false

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front leading up to the green. We're all in the rough.

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There.

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There's nothing between us and the green itself except the

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tall grass. And I see more and more people reaching

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in for what you were saying is the pitch and

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the sixty degree and they try to scoop under it

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and give it a nice loft onto it, and they're

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not that precise. And why don't we understand? Why don't

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we get that? And for me, what I would do

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in a situation like that is I would take an

478
00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.240
maybe a seven or an eight iron and just putt

479
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.079
with it. So if I do a putting motion. It's

480
00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.160
just going to get over that rough, gonna get through

481
00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:33.720
and over it. But then it's gonna roll.

482
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.160
Is this exactly? It just depends on where the pin's located.

483
00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.799
But if you got yeah, if you've got a little

484
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.039
bit of room to work with, definitely pull out. You nine,

485
00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.319
you're eight, you're seven on Like you said, almost feel

486
00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.559
like it's a big putting stroke. But the difference is

487
00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:48.519
she's going to hit down on a little bit more bulls,

488
00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.400
kind a little flutter, it's going to release up to

489
00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.279
the hole and you know, it's just a more high

490
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.640
percentage shot, you know, then pulling out's maybe people tend

491
00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:58.799
to gravitate towards the sandwich of the love witch.

492
00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:03.960
And you said hitting down on it versus.

493
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.440
Scoop, but I yes, you might. Well it depends on

494
00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:07.519
the lie as well. That's the other sure thing with it.

495
00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:09.240
But you know, if the ball is sort of sitting okay,

496
00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.240
you know, just just sort of make sure you hit

497
00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.720
down on a little bit. With the chip shots, people

498
00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:15.519
tend to sort of try and help them up a

499
00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:15.920
little bit.

500
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.160
And where's the weight on our body? Are we leaning

501
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:20.720
into it or are we holding.

502
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:24.039
My preference is I mean, depending on the on the

503
00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.920
on the situation. But normally I try and get people

504
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.400
pretty level. I just feel that they're a little more level.

505
00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.480
They tend to sort of brush it off. But it

506
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.400
just depends on on the severity of the life. It's

507
00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.759
down deep, you know, it's down deep. Maybe you want

508
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.480
to lean a touch more foot towards the left side

509
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:43.400
for the right hand and feel like you're going to

510
00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:44.640
hit down on it because you're sort of going to

511
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.079
get sort of chop it out and get the ball

512
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:51.160
up onto the green. But yeah, I mean that's that's

513
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.000
sort of the direction I try and do with most people.

514
00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.279
Anyway, What do you find to be.

515
00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:01.039
Not the easiest shot to teach, but the easiest shot

516
00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:05.680
for your student to comprehend and like the light bulb

517
00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:08.720
goes ah, I get it now, that makes sense to

518
00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.680
me and I can do it. What type of shot

519
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.640
do you find that works for most of your students?

520
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:16.319
Well, I guess the short game. You can get the

521
00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.039
most pop, you can get people, you can fix them

522
00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.319
the quickest with the short game. You know, whether it's

523
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.240
like we're talking about before pulling out the you know,

524
00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.960
the sandwiche and you've sort of give them a seven

525
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.359
and eight iron and say, you know, try try this

526
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.240
for you. Drop a few balls down and try this.

527
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:32.720
You can really you know, I get people I teach

528
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:34.160
and they come back and they say, well, you know

529
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.759
that tip you game with the seven or eight iron's fantastic.

530
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.519
You know, I'm saving so many shots. You know, before

531
00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.839
I was like sculling, hitting the ball thin with a

532
00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:43.839
sand wage that's going across the other side of the green.

533
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:45.920
Now if I mishit it with the seven eye, it

534
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.680
just it doesn't. It's sort of it's not so exaggerated

535
00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:49.519
as far as when.

536
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:53.400
It you know, oh you said the magic word sculling. Okay,

537
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.279
so you've just won the prize. As we're recording this,

538
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.599
the Phoenix, the Waste Management Phoenix Open is going on,

539
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.640
and yesterday, the opening day of the tournament, Tiger makes

540
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.079
his triumphant return. Well, we were the media wanted to

541
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:13.519
be a triumphant return. He obviously was looking, you know,

542
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:19.759
a little bit stale, but his not that I want

543
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.039
to talk about his score or anything, but his play

544
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:25.440
around the green looked more.

545
00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.440
Like someone shooting in the nineties.

546
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.480
Yeah, well, you know, he's interesting. Watch, wasn't it. You know,

547
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.119
he's it's almost like he's got the yips with he's chipping.

548
00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.480
He he was trying to keep the lot of the

549
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:38.240
situations he was in, he was trying to keep the

550
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.319
ball low, keeping it on the ground. How he would

551
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.720
try and just get a guy that's shooting sort of

552
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:44.599
between one hundred and sort of trying to break that

553
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.640
in the magical ninety number. He was pulling out like

554
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.200
a seven and a nine or an eight or whatever

555
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:51.599
it was, and he was you could see he was

556
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:54.079
trying to get on the ground quite quickly. And you

557
00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:56.160
know somebody who'struggling with the chipping, that's sort of a

558
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:58.000
lot of the time. How I'll try and play the shots.

559
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.920
Yeah, either you know, he came up short, he went,

560
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.359
he sculled one and just rolled right over the other

561
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.799
side of the green. It was really quite I mean once, okay,

562
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.720
he's stale once, but he did it multiple times.

563
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.160
Yeah. Well, we saw back at the Tiger Challenge in

564
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:15.599
December that he was really fighting his short game. He's chipping. Now,

565
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.359
whether that's just something because he's trying to change his

566
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:21.599
swing and or it's something more sinister. As far as

567
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.680
you know, he's he's he's sort of getting to that

568
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.240
age you know on the tour they call golf. Once

569
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.680
he hit forty, they caught the black hole for most guys,

570
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.519
you know, they sort of their game tends to sort

571
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.039
of deteriorate and and and sort of sort of not

572
00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.640
be as sharp as what it was before that.

573
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.359
He hit that a long time ago.

574
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.359
It feels like, well, yeah, he hasn't sort of before

575
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:47.160
before the the Thanksgiving incident. I guess he's he's he's

576
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:48.519
his game hasn't mean the same since.

577
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.880
No, No, this is a game we like to play

578
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.680
here a lot. If Tiger called you, I mean, he

579
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.599
seems to be trying the lots of coach. He brought

580
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.039
down another coach again. If Tiger were to call you

581
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.880
and say, I need your help this week, what would

582
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:03.920
you talk to him about?

583
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.200
Well, you know, it's a tough one. You know, Tiger's

584
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.160
obviously he's probably the most talented guy that's maybe ever

585
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:14.680
played the game of golf. So, oh, what would I

586
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:21.160
do with him? Yeah, that's a really good question.

587
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:29.359
I'm not going to let you get away with Yeah,

588
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.039
being stumped on this one, it is.

589
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.240
It's interesting, Well, you know, he he's always had the

590
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:37.279
club a bit stuck and behind him, you know, so

591
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.359
explained well, you know, for most of the amateurs, they

592
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.160
tend to come too much from the outside and they

593
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.000
come over the top and they take big divots with Tiger,

594
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:46.880
and you're gonna find with the better players, they tend

595
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.440
to get the club more caught behind them, so it's

596
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.000
sort of the club's coming too much from behind their body.

597
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.000
And you know, that's why he's always sort of blocked it,

598
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.880
or especially with the driver, he's always he's always struggled

599
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:01.680
to hit the ball straight. You know, at this point

600
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.960
in time, for me, he's got too much turn too quickly,

601
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.119
And that's sort of a little bit of his old

602
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.720
patterns with what he was doing. He's working with Sean

603
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.839
Foley and the more the sort of stack and tilt

604
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.680
or the golf machine stuff or whatever you want to

605
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.839
call it, and he's sort of going away from that.

606
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:21.119
It seems like he's going more back towards you know,

607
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.000
his oldest swings when he was sort of back in

608
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.839
the two thousand, two thousand and one. You know, i'd

609
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:28.440
sort of just work on the direction of his turn.

610
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:30.200
I feel like he's got a lot of turn like

611
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:31.400
I said, a lot of turn really early.

612
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.000
He's so flexible, he's so strong.

613
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:36.960
Oh, he's very athletic, isn't he. You know he can

614
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.200
do he can, you know he can. As we've all seen,

615
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:41.720
he does some amazing things with a golf call.

616
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.559
Yeah, it really he really does.

617
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.680
Another thing that you offer at least that on your website,

618
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:50.440
which is Josh Willard Goolf dot com w I L

619
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.880
L A R D correct Josh Willard Goolf dot com.

620
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.400
If you want to check it out, if you know,

621
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.640
you can give him a call, talk to him on

622
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.839
the phone, or you can even book a lesson with Josh.

623
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:08.359
You talk about on course lessons in addition to you know,

624
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.759
private lessons, short game on course and one day golf schools.

625
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:19.119
On course lessons, what do you find the most common

626
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.759
mistakes when you're on course lessons with with let's let's

627
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:27.480
talk about that mid handicap upper eighties nineties player.

628
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.359
Yeah, just course management a lot we talked about before.

629
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.200
I just find that, you know, people are sort of

630
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.880
grabbing the driver every chance they can. But you know,

631
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.720
to me, if they pulled out a five wood or

632
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:40.920
a three wood and just sort of sacrificed a little

633
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.480
bit of distance, but got the ball and to play.

634
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.039
And then also around the greens, you know that they

635
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.000
just they just they course management isn't very good. Yeah,

636
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:51.200
Like I said before, they'll tend to go for shots

637
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.839
that's maybe it's a ten percent shot. They might pull

638
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.880
it off ten percent of the time.

639
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.680
What about for the better players? Now we're talking about

640
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.200
guys who are single digit or you know, a ten eleven,

641
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:05.279
twelve down there. They shoot in the low eighties regularly.

642
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.160
Occasionally they'll break into seventies or even shoot in the

643
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.599
mid seventies on a regular basis. When you take them

644
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.880
out on course lesson what do you find to be

645
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.240
the issue?

646
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:16.839
Normally they're not too bad.

647
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.680
Again, it just obviously yeah, well that's right.

648
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.519
It's more when you sort of get down to that

649
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.839
sort of number where they're shooting sort of low eighties,

650
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.359
it's to me it's more of a technical stuff and

651
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.480
i'd work more of that on the range. I mean,

652
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:30.920
you can take them on the golf course as well,

653
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.640
but I find they'll get more bang for their buck

654
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.839
if they're if you're working on their swing or working

655
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.880
on their short game. Normally, if they're shooting sort of

656
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.400
high low eighties to sort of mid eighties. They're sort

657
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.640
of their cost management isn't terrible. Again, they could probably

658
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:47.839
pull a few three woods and five woods instead of

659
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:53.200
pulling the driver, but they're just not as I guess,

660
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.359
they're a bit more sensible as far as the clubs

661
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:58.559
that they are pulling most of the time.

662
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.640
Yeah, and they probably know they're just as much better.

663
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:00.920
Yeah.

664
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.440
Well, they're more consistent golfers, so they're hitting the numbers,

665
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.839
are a little more consistent consistently. But what you will find

666
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.960
is again that they're always probably a lot of the

667
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.160
time taking They could always take an extra club.

668
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:14.680
Everybody can.

669
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.519
Yeah. Well, you know, I think even with well, I

670
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.720
would say with the two appliers, but with the amateurs,

671
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.799
they're always under clubbing.

672
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.359
We're always talking about the amateurs.

673
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.279
Yeah, it's all about the amateurs. They can go to

674
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.839
the Golf channel and watch the pros and the single

675
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.759
digit guys. They can focus on that, but that's not

676
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.519
where we are. We're talking about breaking ninety and hopefully

677
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:37.640
breaking eighty sometime.

678
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:39.359
I mean, that's what we're about here.

679
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:49.920
Absolutely, We're always talking about the amateurs. Yeah, it's all

680
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.039
about the amateurs.

681
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.359
I mean, that's what we're about.

682
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.240
Here, absolutely, So you know you're gonna find with most suppliers,

683
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.519
you know, especially for the guys that are trying to

684
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.920
break break ninety. There's a lot of simple things you

685
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.799
can do to get better. Some of the things I'd

686
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.480
suggest for guys is just a simple thing like an

687
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.799
impact bag is really really good, even with the golf,

688
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.480
with the golf club. If you're really crazy about it,

689
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.279
go out. Just go to your local golf store. Keep

690
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.519
yourself a seven nine, maybe get a molded grip put

691
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.119
onto it. You know that they're just really to me,

692
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.519
they're the only decent training aids out there that you

693
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.160
can buy, and they're probably the oldest and the best ones.

694
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.039
And these are mold you said, molded grip.

695
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:30.720
Yeah, it's just like a molded grip. So if you

696
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.200
went into a gold shop and you see if you've

697
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.799
got a training grips some people might call them, get

698
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.799
yourself a training grip, get yourself like an impact bag.

699
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.839
If you're at home, what you can do is throw

700
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.079
your bag in the backyard and just push it around,

701
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.440
make a few small swings, just try and build up

702
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.720
that feeling of what the correct impact position is. And

703
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.759
you know, fine, if you start pushing the bag, it's

704
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.559
going to get your body angles better as well, your

705
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.519
body and wrist angles. And if you can do that,

706
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.240
and if you you know and all so, if you've

707
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.759
got a mirror, get yourself in front of a mirror,

708
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.000
because what you're going to find is when you're training,

709
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:06.759
when you're trying to I always say to my students,

710
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.079
you know, they come, we video them, we try and

711
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.440
use some models, some other top players, and then when

712
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.359
they go away, I always try and email their swings

713
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:18.000
to them, some pitchures, and probably the last thing I

714
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.000
say to them is get yourself in front of a mirror,

715
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.359
right because what I generally try and do a lot

716
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.839
of guys anyways, when they come, their setups aren't very good,

717
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.000
so I try and get them set up the correct way,

718
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.039
and obviously when they leave it probably feels a little

719
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.480
foreign to some people, but it's like anything, if you

720
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.400
do it enough, it just becomes a new normal. And

721
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:37.880
if they can get themselves in front of the mirror,

722
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.519
because you're going to find a golf the fields are

723
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.559
always constantly changing, but visually it's always going to look

724
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.119
the same. Right. So if you can get the correct

725
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.759
set up, you know you're going to find you get

726
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:49.720
the sequence will get better once you start trying to

727
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.640
swing the club. So to me, the start positions the

728
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.480
most important because that's going to set the sequence to

729
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.559
how everything begins. So you know, for example, you know,

730
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.640
if you if you haven't got the right body shape,

731
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.359
I'm sort of big on trying to get people get

732
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.559
their body angles correct at the beginning, So my preference

733
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.440
would be trying to get people more into like an

734
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.440
impact position at the start. Okay. So if you can

735
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.119
get that a bit more of an impact position at

736
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.519
the start, then all you really got to do is

737
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.000
just pull your arms back fully, swing your arms back,

738
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:20.640
and that's going to if you've got the right angles

739
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.640
at the beginning, that's going to pull your body and

740
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.079
make your body turn the right way, okay, because the

741
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:26.680
biggest thing with a lot of people is they don't

742
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.400
start the right way and then they're trying to turn,

743
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.799
and then once they're trying to turn, then their bodies

744
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:33.240
out of position and then they've got to somehow get

745
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.960
back into the right position to hit it. So you know,

746
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.720
you've really for the right hand or it's going to

747
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:39.440
feel like their left sides a little bit higher than

748
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.279
their right side, and that being you know, if you

749
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:43.880
take your grip, if you, if you, if you've got

750
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:45.720
you know, obviously we're all if we're a right hand,

751
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.039
you've got your left hand on top, you've got your

752
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.240
right hand on the bottom. So the left side's got

753
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.319
to be a little bit higher. To me, you can't

754
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.920
really set up in that sort of static, very straight

755
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.359
looking bodies which most people tend to have. You know,

756
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.640
like we talked about the start, you know, it's it's

757
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.279
got to be a simpler way of doing it. And

758
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.319
I just feel the way it's traditional way golf's tour

759
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.679
is that it's people have to move a lot hit

760
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.800
the ball, and that's why the game is so difficult

761
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:12.440
because they're trying to because they've got to move a lot.

762
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.599
It's very hard to coordinate it all and hit it straight.

763
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.239
I'll get nasty letters if I don't ask this question.

764
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.119
We talked about your your attempts and your time on

765
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:25.079
various tours.

766
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.280
What's the most amount of success that you had.

767
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.360
How did you do well? You know, I didn't really

768
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.800
have a lot of success on the main Tours. You know,

769
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.599
I played, I played, I played, you know, I played

770
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.599
most of the major events in Australia. I think I

771
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.960
made one cut down there. I played a lot on

772
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.039
the secondary tours in Australia, pro am tours as well. Yeah,

773
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:44.880
I probably won about I don't know, eight or ten

774
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.400
events on the on the secondary tour with the pro ams,

775
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.840
you know, I mean, I love playing golf, and you know,

776
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.519
I probably, like most instructors, were all failed players. You know,

777
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.159
we all we all got into golf and we want

778
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.360
to be tour pros. But there's only very small percentage

779
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.960
of guys that actually probably two or three percent of

780
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.039
guys that make a living out of it.

781
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.000
And even for somebody with that kind of game and

782
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.239
that kind of confidence, you still struggle to make the cut.

783
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.519
Yeah. Well, with golf, I mean, you know the thing

784
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.280
when I was playing, I was playing in the mid

785
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.360
nineties to sort of the early two thousands, and we'd

786
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.599
play like the Australian Open and Greg Norman would be

787
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.800
there or you know, obviously there's a lot of top

788
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.840
Australian players that now play on the PGA Tour, and

789
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.920
those guys would play all year on the Nationwide Tour

790
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.400
or the now it's theweb dot Com Tour or the

791
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.960
PGA Tour, and you know they're probably playing twenty to

792
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.199
thirty weeks a year, and then you're coming back and

793
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.159
they're playing the Australian Tour and you know they might

794
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.800
come down play three or four events, and if you

795
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.280
play well enough, you might get a chance to play

796
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.639
four or five events throughout the Australian summer. And it's

797
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.079
pretty hard to compete with those guys if they're playing

798
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.440
every week four round tournaments. You're just playing one two

799
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.000
day events. But you know, when you get to those

800
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.760
those televised events. The big thing I think the amateurs

801
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:03.280
don't realizes how much how much tougher the golf courses play.

802
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:05.480
They play a lot firmer, they play a lot faster,

803
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:10.159
The rough's a lot deeper. You know you're going to

804
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.599
find that if you're off a little bit, it gets

805
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.960
everything gets amplified, right Whereas if we went out and

806
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.760
played here today or at Peacock Gap, you're going to

807
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:20.639
find the conditions are a lot softer. The greens are

808
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.360
probably a lot slower than what they would be if

809
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.079
you're playing a too event on TV. So you know

810
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:26.920
you find if you if you hit a straight shot,

811
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.440
it tends you tend to get penalized a lot more

812
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:29.880
for it.

813
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:33.199
Fascinating. I love it.

814
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.280
Let's wrap it up with the helpful tip up based

815
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:37.440
on today's conversation.

816
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.840
Okay, well fred a really simple tip that I would

817
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.960
try and give people. When people are over the ball,

818
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:44.760
they tend to move a lot, They tend to try

819
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.159
and shift their weight. They tend to they just tend

820
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.960
to overrotate because it all feels like power. It feels

821
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.239
like they can hit a long way. Simplest tip by

822
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.760
try and give people would be to get your seven nine,

823
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.719
hut yourself on the driving range, put your feet together

824
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:01.840
and just try and hit a few shots with your

825
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.480
feet together. What that's going to do, It's going to

826
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.760
synchronize everything up a little bit more. It's going to

827
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.119
make everything work together a little bit more. As I

828
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.280
said before, people tend to move about a lot, and

829
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.119
when they move about a lot, it tends to make

830
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.320
it really complicated and it makes it hard to repeat