Oct. 17, 2025

PGA Tour Caddy for J.B. Holmes, Brandon Parsons

PGA Tour Caddy for J.B. Holmes, Brandon Parsons
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GS#444 July 8, 2014 PGA Tour player J.B. Holmes grew up with Brandon Parsons who is now his caddy. This 70 minute episode features Brandon talking about Target Oriented Golf and Aimpoint putting to achieve the lowest scores possible.

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Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty four, originally published

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on July eighth, twenty fourteen.

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Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our

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interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations

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like this that are no longer available in any podcast app.

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You start trying to take a picture when you make

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your golf cleen what that part it is? And when

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you can't do it, it's because it won't happen. You

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had early palm wine. You're cringing the club that happened,

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And then you want to why I don't make your

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golf One for a kind of gotigator talking about will

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president not be the redult orient and we're talking about

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doing at a golf what called OFWF What it is? You're

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outside with friend or people you like to at least

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be around. You're at a park. Basically, you've got land

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set aside that is free of course, about a beautiful bird,

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water ducks, all the beautiful bad and you got.

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This picture app years that you can look at.

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And I'm saying you just start looking at them, because

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everybody looks down at the grown into the white ball,

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and then that's the frustraction. I'm saying. You look up

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and find the party and set that in your mind

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and then enjoying the times and then you start feeling

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like having a good time on the golf course, and

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then you can say I'm a good golfer and your

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score nor reflected. But it won't be in the score.

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That won't be while you know you're parent, you know

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you're good, and you enjoy the time. Spin out there

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which your friend.

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PGA Tour caddy for JB. Holmes, Brandon Parsons. This is

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Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Brandon, Hey, how are you doing.

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I'm doing well.

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Where are you.

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Right now? I am between Campbellsville and Bowling Greens and

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Punty and it's just going down to talk a little

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bit about a target, owning your golf and a point

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golf and a way to communicate and nation to the player.

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Right now. You know, I caddy, So my brother intent

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parking and instructor at Oldstone and I'm heading out the

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Oldstone Country Club and goinger into.

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Customs and how much of your life has spent on

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the road.

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A great amount. I travel just with word about thirty

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weeks plus the Ninus a few weeks, about thirty weeks

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with the tour events, and then while I'm home sometimes

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I scheduled some time like today to try to, you know,

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just advance my learning in regards to golf. So I'm

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using I've got a few days here before the British Open,

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and I'm just using this time to try to to

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brush up on some things, just green oriented, just just

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reading green, trying to get a few more puts to

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fall in.

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Okay, well, we'll definitely talk about aime point putting. And

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because Colin Cromac was on the on the show just

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a few weeks ago talking about tour target oriented golf,

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that's how you and I got together. So I'm going

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to want to focus and talk a lot about target

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oriented golf from your perspective. But if you don't mind

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me asking, I'm just fascinated you were You've been on

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the tour this year with JB Holmes and caddying catting

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for him. Is this your first year caddying for JB?

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Now? I started cattying in two thousand and eight, so

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I had caddy for JB. And just like we grew

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up playing golf together and sometimes we would take turns

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catting for each other. So we very much know each

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other's games. And he had me come out just to

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a couple of random tour events. I think it was

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a fun I in Florida when he was on tour

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and like oh six and I started full time.

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In eight and we really enjoyed it. I had quite

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a bit of success.

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I took some time to play in two thousand, late

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twenty twelve, first part twenty thirteen, and then he asked

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me to come back. So it's happy to come back

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get back to work with him. We've had a great

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year to about fourteen. I think he's made just over

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two million dollars.

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So yeah, the last time I checked, it looked like

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it was just over two million dollars. And you still

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have quite a way to go in the season.

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Yeah, we still have quite a season left, so we're

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just trying to cone in on little ways to get better.

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Some things we can do. Even at this level, it's.

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Great to always feel like you can get a little

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bit better. And I think that's what draws us to golf,

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you know. I mean, even if you go out and

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shoot eighteen under, there was still you're like, man, that

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one left on the edge. Maybe it was for a

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hole in one, but that's that's crazy. That's what the

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mind does.

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You know, you never seem to be happy.

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Feel like you can strive for just to get a

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little better, and perfection never happens.

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It's amazing.

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Yeah, I've never met let me take that back. I've

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met one golfer in my life that said he was

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a good golfer. I've never met anybody say are you

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a golfer? Like I'm okay, you know, but you know,

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at my barber, he's like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm

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a good golfer.

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Yeah.

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Like really, I've never heard anybody say that before. It's

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really amazing.

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But like you see, and then you want to you

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want to go play with your barber and see what

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he thinks is good, you know what I mean?

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Because a different level, I have.

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No interest in playing with this guy because I don't

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want him to start giving me lessons on the course.

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I just have a feeling he's going to start telling

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me what I'm doing wrong, and I have no interest

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in that whatsoever. I understand, But but it's like, you know,

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you you you go out and play with somebody and

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they say, so, are you a good golfer? I'm like, yeah,

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you know, I'm okay, I'm shooting in the you know,

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the mid eighties right now, Like wow, you're really good,

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and it's like, you know, but then if you you know,

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from his perspective, I always kind of see shooting in

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the eighties is kind of like turning sixty, you know. Uh,

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it's when you're sixty year old to young people and

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you're young to old people.

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Right. Yeah, well I'm starting to know again. I mean,

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if you want to get away from score, I'm just

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starting to notice that. I would call anyone that can

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be on the golf course and hitting shots and playing

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and keeping score if it looks like they're enjoying it,

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so you see them smiling, I would call them a

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good golfer. Somehow they've managed to hear you're keeping score

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and obviously you're not going to hit a perfect shot

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every time, so you deal with the frustration in a

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happy way. So anybody that can do that, in my mind,

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i'm you know, I'm starting to because that's the guys

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you know at programs and even on the tour where

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it just looks like they're not enjoying it like while

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you know, like while the understanding of that this is

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a game.

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So I love that, I think along with h Yeah,

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if he's.

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Present and just seeing the golf course and that gets

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us back again to the targeting or the golf.

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Yeah, no, I like that.

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It's like if you think you're if you're having fun,

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then you're a good golfer.

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Why not my little.

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Boy, I don't know. He's five and we go out

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and he sees everything you know out there in the

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golf work.

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He has a black Yeah.

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I mean he shoots one hundred and fifty if you

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ask him, So he's a good golfer.

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Oh, I didn't realize. You've got you've got a five

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year old and you're on the road thirty weeks a year.

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That's got to be tough.

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Yeah, that cannot with me. Just when we can make

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it happen.

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But my wife is very supportive and it's been it's

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been a really good ride.

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You know.

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Yeah, Well, when when the guy you're working for is

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generating over two million dollars, you know, part the way

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through the season. Yeah, I think you should be supportive.

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I think she realized you're having.

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Fun, but she realizes.

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You know, I'm lucky enough that I really love golf.

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I love gathering more information and learning, and that's what,

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you know, Golf is my motivation. You get to do that,

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and you know I take walks every day. We're out

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on the course for four four and a half hours

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with with my best buddy. You know, so it's.

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It's it's well, your best buddy.

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This year, yeah, this year, his winnings. You know, we

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we've we've talked about enough. But he's had some tough

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years the last couple of years too. He wasn't even

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did he not even get to compete for a while.

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He had some tough time.

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Yeah, Yeah, he had he had some surgery just the

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ki mountformation, so he had some skull removed which was

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very scary. Oh and then uh, he had a rollerblading

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accident and broken ankle and then he's had some surgery

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on his elbow and it's amazing. But again he used

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it as a motivation just to say, Okay, I'm gonna

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work out. I'm going to overcome all these things, and

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he's kind of out and want to get on tour.

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And I'm you know, I'm very proud of him.

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I would think, well, being an old friend of his,

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have you guys grew up playing together and competing against

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one another. I got to imagine, and as as a cat,

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I've got to imagine there's been a lot of pep

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talks that come from you to get him back on track.

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Yeah, just you know more, it's just like, you know,

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you just wanted to hang in there because golf, like

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we just talked about, and very frustrating. So we're just

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trying to get back to the enjoyment and while we

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love golf and just every day, you know, just try

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to see the golf course and just noticing just little things.

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You know, you can play golf for a long time

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and never noticed that there are any birds chirping on

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the golf course today, You've not heard any for four years,

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and maybe you start hearing those, you know, you're on

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the right tranck if that may soon.

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Yeah, I've had a new discovery just recently. Two of

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the golf courses that I play in the county I

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live in are dog friendly. Golf courses.

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That's cool.

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And so I have I have a little dog. I

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mean she's only about seventeen pounds, but she has been

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out with me four times now, and I'm like, look,

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if I'm gonna have to take my dog for a

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walk and I walk the golf course, why don't I

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just bring the dog. And she's been awesome. And the

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friends that I play with like when I bring her out,

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They're like, really, you're bringing your dog. And by the

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end of the round they were so happy that she

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was there because she's got this calming thing about her.

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You know.

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It's like when you're feeling frustrated stuff, you go over

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and you snuggle and pet with the dog and you

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feel great.

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Yeah, dog doesn't Your dog doesn't care if you know,

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if he cop a shot or hit it in the woods,

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or if you burnied a hole you never made burnie

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on before, hit your longest drive. I mean, she's enjoying

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being It's like a park to dog, you know. So

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she's enjoying that experience from that point of view, which

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is what we should be doing. You know. I think

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we forget some time to get attached to the results

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and everything.

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Yeah, well, I think that's maybe an episode will be Yeah,

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we'll be That's an episode we're going to be doing soon.

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Is how what your dog could teach you on the

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golf course.

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That's very good, very good.

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But if you ever get the chance to take a

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dog out with it, you got to give it a try.

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It's really a lot of oh you have yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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I love.

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I had a black lab growing up, and we took

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him to the golf course some and their experiences just

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really opened your eyes, you know differently, you really do.

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But I live next to a golf course and on

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July fourth Holiday, just recently, somebody who lives on my

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block had company over and brought their dog with them,

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and the dog jumped over the fence onto the golf

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course and the dog and these guys are looking around like,

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who's that? Wait a minute, what is this dog doing here?

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You can see these golfers were so frustrated, and the

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dog was one of those hurting shepherds and was having

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so much fun. But every time a guy would take

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a shot, the dog would run down the fairway, pick

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up the ball and bring it back. You could imagine

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what this, yeah, you can imagine these these country club

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guys who just play the same course over and over

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again and play the same shot, and play the same

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club at the same tea box and hit it in

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the same bunker every time, and they never changed their

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game with something like that really rattled their cage.

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It was very funny to watch exactly.

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It's two opposite energies flipping. You know. Dogger is just

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all all blah. And you got people that you know, like,

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like you just said, play the same game. They play

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the same course, and it's like they've never thought, well,

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you know, is it good? I always I'm always long

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as this screen and it's terrible back there. It's all downhill,

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or you know, I never I don't like that ship.

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I wonder why they don't just hit a different club

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to a different spot and or go look and see

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where the good spot is.

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Recently, Dave Stock and we had a really great conversation

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and he talked about how he took two clubs with

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him to every shot. He would never decide just based

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on the yardage. He would take two different clubs and

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decide for him it was is it a high shot

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or a low shot? And he didn't make any decision

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until he was standing behind the ball and assessing exactly

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what he needed to accomplish before he decided which club

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to hit. Yeah, which was a huge lesson for me.

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is just using your imagination. Sure I can talk about

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with where you want your ball to be, just using

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your imagination more and seeing he takes two clubs because

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he's playing with the trajectory. So he just would rather

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instead of trying to deloss a sixty degree. Everybody uses

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a sixty degree now at team, So instead of trying

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to deloss that and force the club into doing a

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shot it's not really built for, he would just switch

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to a fifty six or fifty four or nine iron

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and then he can keep it. He can keep his

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body or his technique if you will, whatever you want

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to call that. He doesn't have to channel, can just

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change the tool to match the trajectory that he has

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in his imagination. You know which You're awesome? Right?

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Spectacular?

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Well?

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If do you when you're when you're traveling, So now

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you're traveling by car, but during in between tournaments and stuff,

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you're flying with JB all the time.

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Though right now we fly, we travel separately, So it's

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an hour. If I can, it's I can work it

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out so that I can get home, because if I

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can drive, then I have more freedom, you know, if

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I'll have to wait on a flight or rush to

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a flight. I just felt like I don't like the

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experience really going through airports and you're having to be

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somewhere at a certain time. So if if I can drive,

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its ten hours away. It just depending on, you know,

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if we're going to be four weeks in a row.

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If we're going to be four in a row, I'll fly.

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But if I can, if I can find a way

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to drive, I try to drive, but we fly separately.

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We're gonna fly to the British Open. We are going

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to do that together.

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Then we'll come home, be home a week, and then

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we'll be heading to Acron for.

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The Firestone and then the PGA, and then we'll get

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ready for the playoffs and we'll do several in a

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row in the playoffs.

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So looking forward to to all those events.

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Yeah, I bet good luck on those. When now, when

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you say you when you fly separately, do you mean

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he flies first class and you fly coach or he

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flies charter and you fly commercial or you take different planes.

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Yeah, different, we're on different airplanes usually because why I'm flying,

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I'm flying home, or maybe you have scheduled a different flight.

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We're just seat responsible for our own travel, you know. Now,

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there there are times like he did have a deal

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in the.

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Past where maybe he has the private planes.

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I mean, if he's flying privately or something like that,

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he's taking me along, and you know, I'm grateful for that.

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It's awful.

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It's just a matter of schedule. We just schedule, schedule

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our own flights. And here recently he's been flying just

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commercial a lot more so hm hmm.

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Do you listen to audio books when you're on the

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road or do you know if JB.

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But Jady and I have talked about it. He's been

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listening to more and more audio books, which is you know,

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is great. So we talked about just some audiobooks and

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things that he's listened to. And I think it'll be

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great because I don't have to take you know, now,

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with today's technology, don't have to have a book with

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you and and you know, come on the I phone

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and on the fly or in the car. So that

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would be great.

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Yeah, and it's true. You download stuff automatically right down

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to your iPhone. I know that you're you, and I

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are talking on your cell phone right now on your iPhone.

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I actually just took a driving trip down from the

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San Francisco area down to Los Angeles and found an

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eight hour book that took me there and back and

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it was a really fun book. I really enjoyed it.

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It's called ten Percent Happier. How I tamed the voice

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in my head, reduced stress without losing my edge, and

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found a self help that actually works. And it's written

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by this guy named Dan Harris. Now, he was the

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nightline anchor and he's worked for ABC Network and he

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had a panic attack live on television while he was

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doing a newscast on Good Morning America, and so he

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realized at that point that he had to make some changes.

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He's a non believer. He found himself in a very

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bizarre situation, and then ABC made him their religious reporter,

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and he was like, why am I covering religion? I

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don't make it. But he just went on this self

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help exploration and he found a way to tame his voice.

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And it's interesting because while I was listening to it,

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and he talked about meditation, he talked about mindfulness. It

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resonated to me because so much of what I have

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talked about on Golf Smarter really is kind of mindfulness,

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and that is all that is is being present, being

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in the moment. And so many instructors, so many mental

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coaches that we've had on the show, talk about being

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in the moment, focusing on the process and not about

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the outcome. And Dan Harris talks about how all of

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this work for him made him ten percent happier. And

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it's a really entertaining book because there's so many stories,

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especially if you like media and get his background and

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turning Diane Sawyer onto meditation, that kind of stuff. It's

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a great book to check out.

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Yeah, well that's great. Just mindfulness and being president. That's

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exactly what Tarry Orion Golf is about. And what you know,

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what Colin is figured out how to do is just

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basically get somebody. So it's easiest to okay, be mindful,

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and it's easy to say, okay, be present, but now

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how do you help me? Right? How do you know?

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How do I do that?

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What does that look like?

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And so he has actually studied, you know, the brainway

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patterns and everything of what what the brainways look like

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when they're in this when someone is in the zone

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that you know when you talk about all was in

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the zone and is that okay? Why don't you just

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get back to the zone. Why do you call out

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his zone? Why does that happen? I'm a golfer and

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it's happened to me, and it's like, how do you

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put your finger on that? So that's what he has,

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you know, the vault, a way to just basically do that.

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And he called the target or in a golf and

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it makes sense because the easiest way to do it

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is just by finding a specific target. And it can

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be anything that you enjoy looking at that is in

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the picture of where you would like to get the golf.

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So let's say you're staying on this and bocks and

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you know there's this panoramic you but you're not necessarily

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looking in the tree still left of the fairway. You're

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looking somewhere through the stairway. There'll be something that just

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stands out and on toward everywhere there's a specific tree.

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It's like an architect put it there on purpose. Every

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hole we have that, and I found when I play

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other places every hole has that there's something that stands out.

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It's like God put it there for you to look

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at the architecture. You know, who never built the gout force,

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whatever it is, that's where you should be looking to

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hit this shot. And that's what you should be thinking

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about while you swing, not your golf swing, Not what

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you're going to tell your friends, Not that this is

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going to be your longest sea side to day, not

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that you're down for in your match, not that you're

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up for in your match. Think about the party every

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time on the driving range and the event of your life.

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And that is the breakdown that happens when when people

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are playing golf, you know, And it's simple to explain

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once you understand, in my opinion, once you understand what

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Paul's talking about with target orient golf. But it's not

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necessarily easy to do because it's falling into this trap

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the results only in it, like you just said, and

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going past future and lighting your mind just just run

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them up. So you know, said before to someone that

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you either control your mind or it's going to control you.

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And everybody goes up to the golf course and they

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let their mind control them, and you can tell it's

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controlling them because they don't seem to be enjoying golf

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very much. They'll come back and play again tomorrow or

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next weekend. They like it enough because they hit that

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one shot.

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They're hooked.

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They hit that shot they know they can do, and

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they keep saying, walk down and do that every time. Right,

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you're adlter. So so.

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You have worked with Colin, you've studied with Colin, or

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you just like the concept that he's he's been doing.

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You know, I calling something. So I got together with

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Colin just basically I'd played in some advances and I've

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been away from competition golf for a while. So the

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first thing that happened I near that acuse, the payment event,

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anything that you're looking forward to for a long time

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and you practice for, and that's what you're thinking about

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when you're practicing, Right, that's how you could practice all

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practice event I want to do well. You're practicing your touch,

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you're thinking about that, So that's the future. You're not

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being in the present when you practice. Then that event happens,

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and it's impossible to be in the president at that part.

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You haven't really practicing in the president. And then you

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don't get the results you wanted, and you're like, what,

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you know the practice? HA spent all these hours practicing golf,

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and so I knew I had a problem that no

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one had. Really. It was the first time I knew

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it was a problem. I went, I went to the

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huge school event and just hit you know, I was

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playing well and just hit this shot off the map

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and that's not like me. I hit it in the water,

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you know. Lastly, I guess you would call a double cross.

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I've never really hit that kind of shot before. And

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I thought, I knew that my mind had it's gotten

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away from me. So I just started looking for anybody,

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you know, just anybody could on online basically, and there

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was Target Warning a golf and I read about it,

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and on his website he was describing what exactly what

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I thought my problem was. And then he had these

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one after shots and you could tell a different I

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couldn't tell what the difference was. And so I got

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ahold of just through actually end point golf model thing

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in the UK said hey, you know this guy is

476
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:29.839
actually I just went with that with that calling. So

477
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.359
he put us in touch, introduced us, and I started

478
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:35.200
talking to him and I posted conversation. I mean, he

479
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.160
he call and explain to me exactly what my problem was.

480
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:43.079
And I talked to him every week for the next

481
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.240
few weeks and we just talked about target warning golf

482
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.119
and I would send him videos of me doing it,

483
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:53.079
and yeah, you know, I came to an understanding of

484
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.480
exactly what he was talking about and was able to

485
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.240
put in practice. And more importantly, I'm able to from

486
00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:02.519
a caddy standpoint, help the player focus on the things

487
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.119
that we need to focus on, you know what I mean,

488
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:09.680
which is the target. We practice with the target, and

489
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.160
we played them with the parties, and now we're able

490
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:16.279
to practice more closely instead of being worrying about the

491
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.000
swinging so much. I mean again, if the traffic comes

492
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:23.240
up right. But you'll find for the weekend golfers out there,

493
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.799
you'll find that it's when you spend time practicing or

494
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.039
you're thinking at home about the target, like a hole

495
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.039
that you saw, if you knew what your target was,

496
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:37.359
that's different than just knowing that there was a fairly

497
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.160
there and you had no idea really what you were

498
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.759
swinging in You're trying to get the ball affairly and

499
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.519
you were thinking about maybe your release, or maybe your

500
00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:47.880
weight shift, or maybe something somebody told you you got

501
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:49.079
to make sure this dellow.

502
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:49.359
Is here or that.

503
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.799
That's totally different experience than thinking about the target and

504
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.119
reacting to the target. Totally different. And you'll know what

505
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:58.960
I'm talking about when you reflect that.

506
00:24:59.119 --> 00:24:59.720
Maybe you're cooking.

507
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:01.880
Then a leader and you can go through the holes

508
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.079
and every hole is you have a target, and you'll

509
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:07.640
be at first when you start doing this sorry orient

510
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:09.400
a golf, there'll be holes that you slipped up and

511
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.440
you'll realize, oh, I don't know what my parget was there.

512
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:14.160
And when you get really good at it, you start

513
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.559
you start catching it when you step into your shot,

514
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.519
and when you in mind you start trying to paint

515
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.200
a picture. When when you make your dolls clean, what

516
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:24.240
that part it is? And when you can't do it,

517
00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:26.359
it's because you don't have one, because you never really

518
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.319
sold one. You're just swinging the club at nothing, and

519
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.079
then you wonder why you don't get your results you want.

520
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.799
So I kind of go together. You're talking about being present,

521
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.839
not being a results oriented, and we're talking about enjoyment

522
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.480
a golf and what's called dolfhood. It is you're you're

523
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.519
outside with friends or people you like to at least

524
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:45.000
be around.

525
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:45.880
You're at a park.

526
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.799
Basically, you've got landset aside that is free. Of course,

527
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.480
it is not as beautiful birds, water ducks, you know,

528
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.200
all these beautiful things. And you've got these picture, these

529
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.279
these pictures, these views that you can look at, and

530
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:02.559
I'm saying, just start looking at them, because everybody looks

531
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.559
down at the ground and see this white ball, and

532
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.839
then that's the frustration. I'm saying, look up and find

533
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.000
the target. It's get that in your mind and the

534
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.759
enjoyment comes, and then you start feeling like that the

535
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:15.319
story you just talked about with the dog, I mean

536
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:20.440
he's having a blast, is having a good time on

537
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.480
the golf course. And then you can say I'm a

538
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.640
good golfer and your score won't reflect it. But it

539
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:26.640
won't be in the score.

540
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:27.920
That won't be while you know you're good.

541
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.200
You know you're good because you enjoyed the time you

542
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:31.400
stand out there which your friends.

543
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.880
On the target concept, Am I picking a spot that

544
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.160
I want the ball to land on? Am I picking

545
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:48.880
like you were saying, a tree in the distance that

546
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.039
I want my ballflight to follow?

547
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.079
I'm looking that.

548
00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.839
Give me specific because I know that sometimes I'll look

549
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.920
at a spot on the fairway and I'll focus on

550
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.960
that spot on the fairway, and then when I get

551
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.119
you know, and then I bring my head back, and

552
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.480
all of a sudden, now that I'm looking at the ball,

553
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.160
I start thinking about, Okay, make sure my elbow doesn't

554
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.240
fly out, make sure that my weight shift is correct, right,

555
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.680
you know, I'll get lost in that, and then I

556
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:17.480
but but don't and then you know, and then I

557
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.279
hear myself, but don't forget where you're trying to hit

558
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.720
the ball. So there's too many things obviously going on

559
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.839
in my head at once, but I get lost on

560
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.640
whether I'm you know, focusing on a landing spot or

561
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.160
a ball flight or are they mutually exclusive? Are they

562
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:31.599
the same thing?

563
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:38.880
Well, yeah, that's so. On the on the tea box,

564
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.440
most often, what what I will talk about is there

565
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:46.759
will be playing to wear that has tree. So I'm

566
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.599
usually looking at a certain color tree or a trunk.

567
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.359
Maybe there's a clickd trunk. Maybe there's a tree that

568
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.960
makes a why so you would your ball would never

569
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.160
get to that tree that might be through the fair

570
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.559
way on the line that would be anywhere on that

571
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.359
line would be good. So maybe maybe the cover to

572
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.240
get to the fairway is like to twenty and then

573
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.400
you run out to go and through the rough on

574
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.680
the other side is like three thirty. You with me,

575
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.359
So we have a line created and you you can

576
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.759
draw into that line. You can fade into that line

577
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.240
that you're wanting to call the end somewhere on that line,

578
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:21.119
but it can never get to that tree because it's

579
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.200
three is four hundred yards away or four und yards

580
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.559
away maybe, or maybe it's three hundred and thirty yards away.

581
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.799
So there's this picture, and then what if I took

582
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.000
a picture with a camera and then brought it to you.

583
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.240
I would circle on a rip saying, hey, you know

584
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:37.279
on this line, I can show you on this line,

585
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.480
if you get it towards this tree, you have to

586
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.400
get a two and twenty yards get to the fairway,

587
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.519
or two hundre yards get to the fairway, and then

588
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.680
three hundred and thirty three. Now, if those numbers that

589
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:49.960
work for you can can't hit it to it in

590
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.200
twenty yards, you need to have a different target. You

591
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:55.680
with me, Yeah, you would shift it over to where

592
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.720
you can reach the fairway. Say, okay, So if I'm

593
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:02.200
describing a target for my wife, is just a game

594
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.880
golf I describe, I'm like, hey, do you see that?

595
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.200
You know, there's this tree, there's this group of pie.

596
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.440
Now my target sometimes is way less closer to the green,

597
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:13.759
you know, and I find something that I like to

598
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.799
think about. She may not ever see you're playing the

599
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.519
framed golf course, but she would never see what I'm

600
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.720
necessarily looking at. And I would never look when I'm

601
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.880
playing off. I would never necessarily look where she's looking.

602
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.000
But it needs to be something. It can be a

603
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.079
bird on a tree, you know. You know, a bird

604
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.960
might fly away, but a bird might direct you towards

605
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:34.839
the tree you never saw before. So that's on the

606
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.039
pie that is when we get closer to the hole.

607
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.799
They can be that spot on the green. But there's

608
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.000
a problem if you're picking the spot to land in

609
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.039
the fairway, well what if your drive is man a

610
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.880
favor than that, you know, so it's easier just to

611
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.039
pick trunking up and you want to you know, and

612
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.559
it's doing the track man. Everything is related, but TrackMan

613
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.240
never say to me the boss fall you will end up,

614
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.839
you know, pluck two to four degrees and sing out well,

615
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.240
So you want to be looking at something higher because

616
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.839
you want to hit up on a driver. You want

617
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.079
to catch it on the upswing right of your circle

618
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.440
by spurs of chips. You're going to land somewhere short

619
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.839
of the can so now and if it's breaking to

620
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.680
the left, your target will be shortened to the right

621
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:15.759
of the top and if you and you can make

622
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.960
your circle, depending on how good at golf, how much

623
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.480
you get, lady to make your circle bigger, you can

624
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:22.799
have a bigger target, or you can make it smaller,

625
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:27.359
especially if you're playing well, or or if it's significantly downhill.

626
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.759
Maybe maybe you have a small fot it's closer to

627
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.799
you and you just have to bump it. We've all

628
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.000
done this. You just want to where you were doing it.

629
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.519
Maybe you're going to hear a little nine here and

630
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.400
it's a downhill right left breaking you know, twenty feet away.

631
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.319
You're not trying to knock a nine iron in the hole. Oh.

632
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:45.960
You shift your target closer to you and further to

633
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:47.920
the right, and you're like, I just think it's that

634
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.079
fought and the ball will tunnel down to the hole

635
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.480
that moment you're doing target only a golf and most

636
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.960
of the time people are successful on those types of shots.

637
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.960
It's just I'm talking about and talk expanding that fought

638
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.559
all the way back toity and doing it every time.

639
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.960
So in a sense it can be a little bit boring,

640
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.519
but it's not boring, and that you get to see

641
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.440
more of the golf course and you notice these things

642
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.960
that were there all along. But most of the time

643
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.039
people are just looking at the golf ball and thinking

644
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.079
about the golfspel. So then you want to get to

645
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:18.160
enjoy the golf course.

646
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.079
Wow.

647
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.160
Yeah, it's mind blows because they're all along and most

648
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.200
people have done it, you know, they just don't they're

649
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.160
not aware. So really, Colin has a systematic way of

650
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.119
just becoming aware. And if you do that every day

651
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:39.759
you practice and every day you play golf, you get

652
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.759
better because you get feedbacks when you miss your target.

653
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.920
You don't have to go to the golf swing and

654
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.839
think technically, all my faces up at your feet and

655
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.720
you have a feeling all of a sudden, feelings is

656
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.039
so big because your mind is the only thinking about

657
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.680
the target, and then you can adjust your feeling and

658
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.200
guess what your swing comes out looking just like track

659
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.680
man says it should, or just like the guys on tour.

660
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.359
It takes time and you're I'm not saying you're gonna

661
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:10.119
have You're gonna have your tour swan that you understand,

662
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.240
and that is golf actually knowing where the golf ball

663
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.400
is going to go before you hit it, whether it's

664
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.359
a favor or all, whatever it is. Once you have,

665
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.200
once you can hit a four and different difference in

666
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.400
a set of iron and then some sort of wood

667
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.519
a little bit further than before you are playing golf.

668
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.519
The next thing you want to do then is understanding

669
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.240
uphiel shots are easier in general than downhill shots because

670
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.839
gravity will stop it. So then you're looking for places

671
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.119
that you can get your ball around the green, that

672
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.720
you have an uphill chip or an upfield putt, and

673
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:47.720
then you can start having lower scores. You know, so

674
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:50.599
eighteen number is nine. So if you're not working ninety,

675
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.559
you need to find some way where do you like

676
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.440
to hit your shot from the fairway, Like if you

677
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.720
block out on the left, if the dog leg left,

678
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.079
you already know you don't want your target to be

679
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.839
down the left unless you hate it. Maybe it's great.

680
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.640
If you're gonna hear it the sling, you're going to

681
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.359
the that part of the saily. So your target to

682
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.680
be you could start it on the left corner. There

683
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.599
may be a tree that you love to swing it,

684
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.480
and you can just wear it out and do your

685
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.279
swing at that target. But you know the balls want

686
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.960
to cut. You're playing golf. Now when you get to

687
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.440
the next shot, you know you only shore the hole. Well,

688
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.279
you're seven, I might get through the hole. Getting through

689
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.839
the whole badge is it's extremely downhill. So you choose

690
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.359
an adie and you find a target that you like

691
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.519
looking at, and you know it's gonna fade. So maybe

692
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.400
the front left of the green. There the tree, there's

693
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.599
the green. Maybe there's a cart path there. Everybody's seeing

694
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.720
these places I'm talking about, and they've done it. It's

695
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:42.559
just being aware and starting to do it every time.

696
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.519
Then you're playing golf, you aid out and stay shore.

697
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.359
Maybe you get to get it and it just creeps up.

698
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.400
Now you have an upfield chair, throw an upfield cut,

699
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.960
chip up putt that's above chip up. Make a putt

700
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:54.599
below the hole.

701
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:55.559
You know what I'm saying.

702
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:59.119
That's a part and then just waiting for those opportunities

703
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.079
where you're comfortable with anchershot and then you might make

704
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.720
a birdie, had a birdie Clott. But those happen almost

705
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.960
by accident, and it's not like you purpose to say

706
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.960
I'm going to burdy this whole. No, there's a plane

707
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.599
you can put in play with targets that can lead

708
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.119
you to a birdie, you know, but it's not just

709
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.320
step up and work and just swinging targ I can

710
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.719
you know, and think about releasing the club and think

711
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.280
about this elbow that's not going to lead you where

712
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:30.000
you want to be. That's frustration, the that's what you know.

713
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.280
Yeah, and this is all a critical element of the

714
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:35.280
pre shot routine.

715
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:41.360
Correct, correct, And what I really liked about talking with

716
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.199
Colin you know about the pre shot routine is that

717
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:48.079
you're maybe stepping across a creek or you know, climbing

718
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.360
not climbing once. Once you have a process that you're

719
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:56.119
comfortable with, and it starts with you and confirming okay,

720
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.159
you have that thing. You need to be aware you're

721
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.280
on a golf course. You want to be here right,

722
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.559
so you're going to enjoy the next thirty You needs

723
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.519
to be enjoyment, which is where you're chosen to be.

724
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.360
Then you're going too what do I see you before me?

725
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.239
You know, oh, okay, there's a creek. Am I going

726
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:11.800
over the creek?

727
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:12.480
Short the creek?

728
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.840
So you're making a decision on your club. Okay, we're

729
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.800
gonna go over the creek and we have one hundred

730
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.199
and fifty yards to the front is longod from a

731
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.360
catting standpoint. I'm just telling you what I would do

732
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.280
it in a couple of seconds to help the player.

733
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.000
You know, it might take me longer to explain, but

734
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.400
you do this in a few seconds. Short, this pin

735
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.320
is better. You know, we have twenty yards to cover

736
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:39.360
over the creek, so shorts good. One fifty front, so

737
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:43.039
nine ie gets to the front and the king down seven.

738
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.360
But we know shorts, okay, we could maybe chip it

739
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.199
in or you know, we are gonna feel shot, so

740
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.199
we're gonna choose a nine iron. The wind is you know,

741
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.480
there's not my twin right now? And then you're gonna

742
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.320
find a target. Okay, what is short left? When I

743
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.480
look short left, what do I see? And that there

744
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.320
will lead this tree track? All right, that's my target.

745
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.440
I'm just gonna hit the tree truck.

746
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.719
Now, if it's saved a little bit, yeah, maybe I

747
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.079
hit it closer I'm into. But if it goes exactly

748
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.360
where I want, I would have an upheel left to

749
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:12.719
right Bertie put Now, if you want to write an

750
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.239
uphill right to left Birdy putt. I'm talking about people

751
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.480
that have played the golfers. They know what they know

752
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:19.519
where they like to put from. You might choose a

753
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.480
target a different tree just to the right, opinion right.

754
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:24.679
If you get close enough and you have an a

755
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.000
R shot and you really are good with your legs,

756
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.480
your target can be a pin. You know, it doesn't

757
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.440
have to be. Your desired outcome is different than your target,

758
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.119
most of it. Sometimes they are the same. The time

759
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.360
that's the same would be like a three foot straight putt.

760
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.239
All right, But as far as you get what we've

761
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.280
learned from main point, if you're above the whole breaking

762
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.599
left to right and the drink since eleven, now your

763
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.360
target is closer to you on further out to the

764
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.760
left as a whole, because gravity's gonna think it to

765
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.719
the right, so your target can't be the whole. You'll

766
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.440
miss it. Well right, we won't have to hit it hard.

767
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:05.199
You could go straight over the cup your target.

768
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:06.159
Then are you with me?

769
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.320
Yeah, where people kind of get confused your cognitive that

770
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.280
place a place like that niner and where do you

771
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.599
make this fall and you can go back in. You

772
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.679
can do it to this place and then grabbing it

773
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.719
kind of the rest with a driver. Your target is

774
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.639
somewhere down range and it's fun. You know, it can

775
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:26.960
be a cloud if they're not moving.

776
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:27.800
I mean growing up.

777
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:29.760
There there was some guys and then we were doing

778
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.480
this stuff. And I think people do it all the

779
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.239
time when they play.

780
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:33.960
They're just not aware of this that we're doing this

781
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:34.880
stuff when we're unger.

782
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.280
Oh, you'll hit it fat, you know, you'll hit this

783
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:41.400
uh the tier line poles, you know. I mean, as

784
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.239
long as you hit that direction, you'll see down to

785
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.000
the right and kind of going fairly or you know

786
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:46.920
that's the rough, the land and the rough, but it's

787
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.599
going to just down. That's your target, the self a pulse.

788
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.440
But that cloud above them today, there's a cloud there.

789
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.239
It's fay. They're not might not be. That's why cloud

790
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.480
aren't necessarily good accuses the target, you know, But as

791
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.719
long as you're there in the moment, you can choose

792
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.519
that your ball is ever going to hit that cloud,

793
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.639
though the question about where the target would.

794
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.159
Be, Yeah, your mind may hit the cloud. But that's

795
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:10.559
a different topic altogether.

796
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.920
I like and that's yes exactly.

797
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.000
I like the the concept of desired outcome is different

798
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.159
than the target. You said that a moment ago, and.

799
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.000
Should we not?

800
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.800
Are you saying that folks on the target and forget

801
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.840
about the desired outcome? Or is desired outcome an important

802
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.880
part of your preshot routine?

803
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.639
Well, the desired outcome we need keep the choosing the target,

804
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:43.800
doesn't it?

805
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:46.840
Yea in the hole of course?

806
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.000
How am I going to get this ball to roll

807
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.679
in the hole? Well, that's how you're gonna shoot your target. Now,

808
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.840
let's say you go through your pre short routine. Like

809
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.599
I said, you can't too on a large So you know,

810
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.000
now we're putting all right, uh downhill left the riot

811
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.039
your chosen point pain point. Also that knowledge has helped

812
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.599
us maybe choose a choose a target, but really desired outcome.

813
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.519
You know from experience that this put's going to go

814
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:10.760
down onto the left, and you've chosen there's this little uh,

815
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:15.119
there's this little ball mark that you know that your

816
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.599
ball just rolls over the inside edge, then it'll just

817
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.079
be it just funnels over to the hole. So now

818
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.719
that's our target inside, you know, the inside part of

819
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:26.199
this ball mark and you're gonna step in, and you

820
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.199
have this checklist of things that helps you get comfortable.

821
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.679
Some people get tour players do it, you know. Some

822
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.800
people twist their hips a little bit. Some people fidget

823
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.000
with their whatever they're doing, they do that. It's not

824
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.960
that they're they're not thinking about shaking their hands. It's

825
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.280
that they're thinking about something else, and they shake their

826
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.760
hand when they think about that, right, And that's why

827
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:46.079
they do it.

828
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.199
Every time they use that, they use that as a trigger.

829
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.639
They use that to try to get their mind away

830
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:53.000
from getting in that direction.

831
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.800
Well, you know a lot of people that talk to

832
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:59.159
don't know that they're doing it.

833
00:39:59.360 --> 00:39:59.760
Oh wow.

834
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.400
But it's not a matter necessarily of to change to

835
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.880
get their mind away from something. It's just a matter

836
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.039
of that's that's what helps them. That little move gets

837
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.280
that's how they double check to make sure that maybe

838
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.000
they're the right elbow. You know. So I do some

839
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.079
things when I'm setting up and in my mind I'm like, okay,

840
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.199
all right, up, it's such an you know, my hip

841
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.079
and and so what it looks like externally is not

842
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.119
what it feels like internally. So what my mind, what

843
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.480
I'm doing is totally different than what people would perceive

844
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.079
when they watch my body move or what a camera

845
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:30.440
would show me and be like, wow, why do I

846
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.280
do that? You know? So you're stepping in and doing

847
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.480
these things, and then once once you checklist is that,

848
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.760
once you've done everything, it's time to hit the ball.

849
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.480
At that moment, you're thinking about the target, but you're

850
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:43.239
looking at the ball.

851
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:44.400
Does that make sense?

852
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.440
So it's like driving down the road. You know where

853
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:48.920
the road is that you can look at. You can

854
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.320
notice a tree to the left, or you're like, oh

855
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.960
there's a lake, and you look away from the road,

856
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.719
but you don't the wheel over and run off the road.

857
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.039
You stay on the road, you know, and keep and

858
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.800
keep traveling. You just for a second. That's what looking

859
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.039
at the ball should be. Like, the ball's there, but

860
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.360
that's not where your mind goes. The fine stays on

861
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.400
the target. Your eyes come to the ball, notice it

862
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.920
for a second so you can do your stroke. Other

863
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.679
people have said this, They said, trace with your eyes,

864
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:20.840
you know, from the hole back to the ball, and

865
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.119
as soon as your eyes get to the ball, it's

866
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:24.880
trying to hit your stroke. That's what they mean.

867
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.320
I think that isn't that Jeff Mangum who says that

868
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.360
on putting, because I've done that for years. I will

869
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:34.800
trace the line from the hole back to my ball,

870
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:36.880
and as soon as my eyes get to the ball,

871
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.639
I'm pulling off the stroke.

872
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:42.920
Yeah, there you got it. And then and then all

873
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.360
I'm saying is fine and good and do that. And

874
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.440
that's externally what it may look like. And then target

875
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.400
owing at golf, Colin has found that you can control

876
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.000
your brain waves and get in the zone. It's in

877
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.000
your mind when you're when you're looking at that ball.

878
00:41:58.079 --> 00:41:59.960
Once your eyes get to that ball, you're thinking about

879
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.039
your target and you can only think about it if

880
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.480
you saw it. If you can't think about it, that

881
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.559
means you didn't see it. And that's when you see

882
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.840
to our guys back out. You come back out and

883
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.880
you're like, oh, didn't you didn't even see my target?

884
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.480
What is my target? And you use that use that voice,

885
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.159
you know that that goes through your head. Just control it.

886
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.239
Either you control it or it's going to control you

887
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.519
and use that voice to talk about your targets yourself.

888
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.639
You say out loud if you want, but if you're

889
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.119
around people, you just do it internally and inside your

890
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:28.920
head and you're like, okay, that's why, justin, I love

891
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.039
that spot. Set my club down. Okay, it's a club plant. Yeah,

892
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.039
the clubs plant the spot on my hands where you

893
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:35.079
know your hands are good.

894
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:35.760
That is good.

895
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.800
Uh, there's my checklist and the us I left to

896
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.519
that spot. There's the ball stroke and the ball will

897
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:44.880
go and so I left to that spot funnel into

898
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.960
the hole. And now you got your our outcome. Now

899
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.199
you just ask do we don't work about this orry outcome?

900
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.960
If you did everything and you're happy with doing everything,

901
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.440
you did everything that you can control, and you roll

902
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.360
it over the inside left. Maybe you misread you couldn't

903
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.719
just read it. That happens, or maybe it hits something.

904
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:04.239
So if the ball doesn't go in the hole, there's

905
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.039
no point in getting angry and mad and letting it

906
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.599
affect your next shot or affect your day. Just notice

907
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.159
that you misread it, and you can say that I

908
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.199
hit it too hard. Then you know something that I

909
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.360
need to adjust my target thing. Maybe greens are slower.

910
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.840
You can't control these things, superintend and then mother greens

911
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.760
today they're slower. Just notice that if they're slower. You know,

912
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.960
some people change the you can change the weights before

913
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.400
the round. But the easiest thing to do is just

914
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.480
change your target. And now I feel put You pretend

915
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.559
the hole further up the hill than it than it

916
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.199
currently is, and then you hit it as if the

917
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.239
holes behind the actual hole. So the holes behind you

918
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:44.800
know there's three feet up the hill, You're gonna hit

919
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.760
three feet behind it and the ball will just go

920
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:48.719
in and you don't you know, you don't have to

921
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:50.039
worry about it. And if you show up and the

922
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.599
greens are faster, you bring your target closer to you.

923
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:54.280
So all of a sudden you have a maybe you

924
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.679
have a ten footer and the greens are faster and

925
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.719
used to playing on you're playing some quotes you haven't

926
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.840
played for bring a target closer to you. You know

927
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.639
in your mind, Yeah, there's a hole that's just supposed

928
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:08.960
to you. No, that's it.

929
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.400
Now, what about untarget oriented golf? And I'm going to

930
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.519
want to talk about aim point putting too, but on

931
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.199
target oriented golf, the post shot routine. Where do you

932
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.559
incorporate target oriented golf in your post shot?

933
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.639
Well, A lots of people. Oh that's very important.

934
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:27.280
That's a good question.

935
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.800
Think you have to get feet in order to get better,

936
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.000
you must get feedback. So you've got to watch where

937
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.639
the ball went, all right, You've got to know where

938
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:41.039
the ball goes in relation to your target. And then

939
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.519
it helps me to think about the sensations I had

940
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.239
when I was swinging okay, and then the out that

941
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.559
I get the desire outcome. No, you got some outcome.

942
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:56.320
It may not be the desired outcome, but those sensations

943
00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:00.320
led to that result. You accept that result, get back,

944
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.360
and then go get your next shot. And that's what's

945
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.840
great about the range. But you can use the range

946
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.239
just to stand projectiles down this field, or you can

947
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.079
go to the range and work on your desire outcome

948
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.159
and think about the target and and and feel and

949
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.679
golf really is just feeling an imagination.

950
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.320
Now let's move over to aim point. All right, how

951
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.840
how did you get started with that?

952
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:24.320
Where?

953
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.559
What is it about it that you like and how

954
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:29.360
has it made you?

955
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.280
Or you're the person you're caddy and carrying for, you're

956
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.000
looping for uh, how does it make them better?

957
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.360
Well? Really, am point Mark twen is doing a good

958
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:47.119
job just having a systematic way. It's just physics, you know,

959
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.000
of the ball rolling friction and that generates break. So

960
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.719
side hill and then he has a chart you know

961
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.280
that he's developed and he can just look at the numbers.

962
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:02.000
And the gist of it is is downhill is a tightrope.

963
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.840
So downhill is speed sensitives and aim sensitive. So I

964
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:11.079
can it to a tightrope or you have this fine line,

965
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.760
if you hit it a little bit too hard, it

966
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:13.360
might not go in.

967
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.000
You hear a little bit too easy, it's not gonna

968
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:15.159
go in.

969
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:21.679
An uphill is the funnel, you have wider margin for error, right,

970
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.760
And basically that's what I'm going, you know, to work

971
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.320
on a little bit today is just you know, the expressory.

972
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:31.440
But basically I JD likes my opinion. When we're reading

973
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.119
greens group, we read greens together, so we've got to

974
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.679
have some sort of way to communicate and we use

975
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:41.239
you know, I'm using target oriented golf to communicate the

976
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:46.559
line I'm seeing. But basically we just you know, as

977
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.000
greens get faster, you play more break downhill fall, it

978
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:51.840
takes longer for the ball to get to the hole

979
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.079
because you don't put as much energy into if you

980
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:55.920
put the same amount of energy into if the ball

981
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:57.960
will you know, roll straight over the hole and just

982
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.519
keep going off the green. So you already know that

983
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.840
that's not what we're gonna do, So you just keep

984
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.360
bringing it back and basically you're trying to get the

985
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.920
ball to roll about eight inches past all that's just

986
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.679
the speed that makes the hole the biggest. The more

987
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:14.920
you can get, we said earlier for amateur golfers, the

988
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.199
more you can have those up to shots from left

989
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.199
or right in the hole. I mean, see you're just

990
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.960
pouring pouring the ball into the hole. You know it's

991
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.159
just going to go in all day. You have wider margin,

992
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.719
prayer ship shots, I can you know, I can take

993
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:29.480
a green and drop balls around and say, you know,

994
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.400
statistically you're going to miss. This is going to be

995
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:38.360
very difficult to speed into this and line. Now there's

996
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.239
you know, studies that show that downhill putt you are

997
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.639
more likely to make, but that's skewed because you're more

998
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.800
likely to get a downhill putt to the hole. So

999
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:49.800
if it never gets there, it never goes there. Well,

1000
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.400
that's true, But you want to pack in all day

1001
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.159
or do you want to grinding out six footers? You know, saying.

1002
00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:59.360
Tap in, please.

1003
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.000
Die, just die down to the hole, play more bike.

1004
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:10.199
So that's and just communicating, communicating there and just working

1005
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:10.760
with the sea.

1006
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:16.920
So do you are you one of those guys that

1007
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.639
when you're looking looking at your putts you're thinking, okay, uh,

1008
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.719
you know one ball outside the cup or are you

1009
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.360
looking at the line that it's going to take and

1010
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.119
you're looking at on the break, You're looking at where

1011
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.320
the apex of that break is and you're trying to

1012
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:32.199
follow that line.

1013
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:41.360
Yeah, it's weird for me. And you know, so I

1014
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.199
always since I've been point off, I start to see

1015
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:48.800
this like dark green. It's like darker green looks like

1016
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:52.000
a shadow almost hardest my imagination does. So to me,

1017
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.400
it's there, I see this line that goes through the

1018
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.639
hole and it beings and it's darker green usually darker

1019
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.519
in shade, and it's the width of the whole. It

1020
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:02.119
comes all the way back to the ball for me,

1021
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:06.480
and then just incorporating, you know, aain point shows me

1022
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.760
how you know, if I walk in and it's four

1023
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:11.400
percent slope, and I can feel that in my feet

1024
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.440
by where my singer gravity goes when I step in.

1025
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.079
I went agreeing with my free a lot on towards

1026
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.159
help j you know, JB. And we have books on

1027
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.360
tour that have the amount of slope and everything. So

1028
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.320
anything around two percent is pretty flat when you start

1029
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.679
getting two and a half thirty percent to fill that

1030
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.519
in your feet. And so if I walk in and

1031
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.000
I'm like you, I look at the book and it's

1032
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:36.000
like four percent, and then we're on a nine every

1033
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.480
angle to the whole. So we're hole high basically, which

1034
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.679
everybody wants to be whole high. You never actually want

1035
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:41.199
to be a hole.

1036
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:42.599
High below the whole way.

1037
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.719
Better, now that this stuck's going to break, you know

1038
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.000
as much on his chart, Just know that it's going

1039
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.679
to break as much as the hand. Whether the seed

1040
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.239
is eleven, you know, fourteen or eight, it doesn't matter.

1041
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.039
It's gonna break a lot. So you just need to

1042
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.480
look a little higher. So now I'm seeing I'm kind

1043
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.400
of I'm using looking backwards four percent or on the

1044
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.760
ninth it's going to probably come in from somewhere to

1045
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.039
the top of the hole now I'm in my line

1046
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:10.920
out that way. Does that make sense? So I see

1047
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.920
a dark shadow, and then there might be something on

1048
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.679
my little shadow target wise, there's that ball mark again,

1049
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:20.199
or there's a piece of sand or something that my

1050
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.840
ball maybe not roll over, but I'm going to start

1051
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.360
at that line and it becomes a straight putt's setting

1052
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.320
up and I'm gonna put it straight up at that target.

1053
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:30.920
Does that make sense?

1054
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.360
Yes? It does, Yes it does.

1055
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.199
So I incorporated maybe everything because every I really feel

1056
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.280
like everybody's describing, you know, the same thing. But he's

1057
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.559
everything I've learned to kind of guide mine. I play

1058
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.719
so much golf, I just start seeing these dark lines

1059
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.199
and now I'm using your knowledge I'm currently learning to

1060
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.679
help me adjust that line. But really it all started

1061
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.039
with even before it's called target warning and golf. I

1062
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.840
mean that's how kids are doing that. They're already doing

1063
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.280
it children when they play right.

1064
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:04.440
How much golf do you get to play?

1065
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.239
Yeah? Ever plays very much this year. But it's weird

1066
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.360
because I'm getting I'm playing the last golf and just

1067
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.800
from learning target orient and golf, I mean really feel

1068
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.360
like I'm getting better and better without playing golf. But

1069
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:23.440
that's a new experience for me. I used to feel

1070
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:25.039
like I had the balls for two weeks before I

1071
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.599
just get back to where I was. I never felt

1072
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:29.559
like I was getting any better. Now I feel like

1073
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:31.480
I don't catch a club for weeks and come home.

1074
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.880
I mean, I am enjoying it more. My wife has

1075
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.039
started playing, and I'm I'm just talking. What we talk

1076
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.960
about was target orient golf. She is playing better. She's

1077
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:47.079
broken fifty and she's doing She's probably only played twenty times.

1078
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.039
She's broken white, so that's remarkable.

1079
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:54.800
She broke fifty. I'm nine holes. Wow. Okay, yeah, I

1080
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:57.119
mean from the ladies team, you know, but I mean.

1081
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:05.079
We'll call those the fronties. Let's not be said, because

1082
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.400
I know guys that should be playing the front ties,

1083
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:08.719
but they're like, now they're the ladies.

1084
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:09.519
He is, shut up.

1085
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:10.760
You still can't shoot part?

1086
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:11.639
Just play there?

1087
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:16.559
Yes? Well, and again shots are coming someone within a

1088
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.840
hunter yard anyway, right, So does it's irrelevant. It's basically like,

1089
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.440
do you want to hit a seven iron into the

1090
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.119
screen or a four iron or or maybe maybe you

1091
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:28.800
know back in maybe it's a wood. So if you

1092
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.079
have a wood, you like it, you might as well

1093
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.320
play about TV your driver.

1094
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.639
Right, nobody nobody wants to hit a Nobody wants to

1095
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.159
hit a four iron to the green. That's that's painful.

1096
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:41.000
Right.

1097
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.719
Is there a a like a secret society of caddies

1098
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.360
that you guys have this little club going on, or

1099
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.519
because your buddies with JB, you guys just hang together

1100
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.519
the whole time and keep to yours Or are there

1101
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.199
things that you know that you do with other caddies.

1102
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:12.039
No, I mean I'm not you know, I hang out with,

1103
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.800
you know, other caddies, just depending on who is going

1104
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.480
to be at each event. Some guys. You know, there's

1105
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:22.760
points in the year where I'm maybe going to a

1106
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.199
gym each week and working out, So there's caddies that

1107
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.039
maybe I'll see at the gym. But pretty much I

1108
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:33.880
hang out alone or with JB. Some with Patrick Sherry

1109
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.320
who caddies for Forrey Madison. We've stayed together sometimes, but

1110
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.679
mostly I'm I'm by myself with JB or sometimes my

1111
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:42.599
wife and a boy girl.

1112
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.599
M Now your boys getting old though, He's gonna start

1113
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.000
going to school. That's gonna make it tough.

1114
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.000
Yeah, he's been. Yeah, he's been going to school. So

1115
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:52.440
through the year, you know, we just we do the

1116
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:56.400
best we can with what obstacles come up. So golf

1117
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:57.599
helps us understand that too.

1118
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.159
So but okay, so now during a round or during

1119
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.719
a weekend, when you guys are playing and you're paired

1120
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.400
up with the same guy for a couple of days. Yeah,

1121
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:11.599
what what goes on between the caddies?

1122
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:11.800
Then?

1123
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:14.960
Are you guys communicating? You you have little side bets. Oh,

1124
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.679
I don't want to use the word bets, you know,

1125
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.360
you know, because you probably can't. But you got little

1126
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.440
games going on that you played between yourselves.

1127
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.719
Yeah. No, I've never I've never had any side bets

1128
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.440
or anything like that going on. We've not played, you know,

1129
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.760
any any short of games. I mean, we just we

1130
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.880
might talk, you know, and uh, there might be a

1131
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.400
couple of minutes, Uh we'll I'll be sitting on a

1132
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.159
te waiting and somebody will tell this a story or

1133
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:40.840
something else.

1134
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:42.119
So that's that's been fun.

1135
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:47.320
But mostly it's just, uh, you know, you're you get

1136
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.800
in the moment and you're just you're working on you're

1137
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.920
doing you do everything the exact same to help you

1138
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.239
get into that zone. So we're just in there trying

1139
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:59.760
to get in the zone, you know, and so just

1140
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:03.679
as you know, it's if we can help each other

1141
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.920
rate bunkers if somebody's coming into some trouble or something,

1142
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.199
you know, and and kind of help in that regard

1143
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.159
getting the pan, wiping each other, the players ball off

1144
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:15.719
on the green, you know, if they just come out

1145
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:18.000
of the bunker and things like that. But now not

1146
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:21.360
a real you know, secret society or anything like that.

1147
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.320
We mostly there's so much money involved.

1148
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.199
You know, these days, we don't even travel together.

1149
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.519
I heard and you know, in years past, lots of

1150
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:31.239
caddies traveled together and drove together, but you know, anymore,

1151
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.119
it's just, uh, the game has changed so much. So

1152
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.119
much money is involved, you know what I mean.

1153
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:43.159
Yeah, yeah, so you're you're competing. You're competing too, I mean.

1154
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.039
Yeah, in the sense really the name of our game

1155
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.000
is how good can you get your player to play? Really,

1156
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:51.320
you know what I mean, that's just it.

1157
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:55.440
So you're a coach without a coach here, that's what

1158
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:55.840
you are.

1159
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.280
You know, you're basically a coach. Someday he's a player

1160
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.840
needs something, you know, maybe a little bit different, they

1161
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:04.719
need it phrased a little bit different way, or they

1162
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.599
need more motivation. Some days they need less motivation, you know,

1163
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:11.079
some days just it's just reading your guy, I mean,

1164
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.039
which is great for me. I mean, Jabi and I

1165
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.360
grew up together. I mean, we really know each other

1166
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.079
and we just try to really use that to our advantage.

1167
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.559
You know, so interesting.

1168
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.960
Are there things that you do that would help us?

1169
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.239
Like the first thing that comes to mind is like

1170
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.360
I've I've never been a big fan of tossing a

1171
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:35.400
couple blades of grass in the air to tell me

1172
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.159
what's going on with the wind. A I have trouble

1173
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.400
finding where the grass went when it does. But it

1174
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:46.320
also I find that tossing grass, Okay, thet the wind

1175
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:48.760
is blowing in that direction, but it's not telling me

1176
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:50.840
is the wind swirling? Is it?

1177
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.039
Is it going you know, hard.

1178
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:53.559
Left to right?

1179
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:54.360
Is it? You know?

1180
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.440
Are there other things that you have found that work

1181
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.559
for you or you've seen other caddies do that?

1182
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:03.159
Oh? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's that's what I

1183
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.719
do every day. I just checked the forecast of the wind.

1184
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.480
There's a couple of different sides, you know, I might

1185
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.559
use the Weather Channel on it, and so it says,

1186
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:12.639
you know, south southeast, you know, and then there's another

1187
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.440
app I use. You're not allowed to use it during

1188
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.880
tournament play, but it's just that you know, the beginning

1189
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.719
of the day, primost wind gives you a wind direction

1190
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.760
and gives you the exact direction, like two hundred and

1191
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.320
forty degrees, you know, so if you want, like I'm

1192
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.119
a caddy, I'll use a compass. Most people aren't going

1193
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.039
to use a compass, so you just know it's south

1194
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.960
southwest and you figure out which way south southwest is.

1195
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.119
And when I'm playing at home now, just from being

1196
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.280
a caddy in my experiences, I know that in general

1197
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.519
the wind comes from south southwest. When I'm at home

1198
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.239
playing in Campbellsville, you know, it shifts in the morning

1199
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.320
it's in, so it's like an opposite direction. And then

1200
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.039
at about two o'clock at south southwest. So it's fun

1201
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:52.760
for me because I can hear it really far down

1202
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.599
wind on a few of these far formoles, so I like,

1203
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.119
you know, I just like those holes, so I like

1204
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.239
to play it about that time so I can catch win.

1205
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.159
It's like being a surfer. I talked to some tudle

1206
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.320
surf I've talked to surfers and they do the same

1207
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.159
thing with catching waves. I'm just doing it with wind

1208
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:13.639
and and what is the app again? Primos p r

1209
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.440
I ms primost wind.

1210
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.679
Okay, good, well we'll remember to put that in the

1211
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:20.239
show notes.

1212
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:21.119
And do you.

1213
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:23.800
Hmm?

1214
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:28.320
So uh, you said you use a compass? Is that?

1215
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.079
Are you allowed to have one on the course.

1216
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.280
During We're allowed to change that, We're allowed. I check.

1217
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:34.440
I couldn't believe it, so I keep checking and asking

1218
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.280
you to get hired, me asking, But yeah, we're allowed

1219
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.559
to use a compass during a round. Seeing some caddies,

1220
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:39.960
you know at Bay Hill there was a guy who's

1221
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:43.119
the compass, so you know I use a compass, just

1222
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.840
uh in general south southwest. And then if you feel

1223
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.360
a swirl when you're playing, so you're throwing a grass,

1224
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:50.960
you're seeing these swirls, so you throw it the rest

1225
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:52.519
one time and it's blowing it to the left, and

1226
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.079
you throw it up again, it's blowing it to the right.

1227
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.760
But if you know it's generally supposed to be down.

1228
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.239
Unless you look at the tree tops and every thing

1229
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.199
is moving where the trees are the same direction, you

1230
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:05.800
can just tell a lot about the tree tops and

1231
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.239
just notice and then noticing how much of the tree

1232
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.599
is moving. If it's just believe you got a lot

1233
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:11.960
of win to worry about, and you can strike a

1234
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.960
golf ball well when is not really going to affect

1235
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.400
it anyway. But if you're seeing you know, the branches

1236
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.360
closer to the trunk start to move, you know, you're

1237
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.199
talking about some major wind. So you might want to

1238
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:26.920
play and you're trying to get to that spot you know,

1239
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.440
whether it's shipping or putting or whatever there below the

1240
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:30.480
hole in that funnel.

1241
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:31.400
That's what you're trying to do.

1242
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.199
And is the flag helpful at all?

1243
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.800
I mean you can't. I just think if you're looking

1244
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:40.320
at the tree tops because unless you're gonna hit your

1245
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.199
golf ball, flag high all the way there, right like

1246
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.599
if you're looking up if you have trees around, But

1247
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.199
if you don't have any trees around, then yeah, you

1248
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:50.639
can look at the flag and you see it one

1249
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.440
hundred and fifty yards or two in yards away if

1250
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.760
it's blowing straight down and where you're standing it feels

1251
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.280
like it's blowing straight in. You know, in general, I

1252
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.000
would play with the flags doing because that's where the

1253
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:05.039
ball is losing speed. It comes off the face as

1254
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.840
all the speed so the wind's not really affecting it

1255
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.000
where you're standing anyway. It's when the ball loses speed

1256
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:11.599
that the wind starts to move it around.

1257
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.960
Have you ever noticed if anybody in the gallery is

1258
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:19.320
maybe smoking and you can see what the smoke is doing,

1259
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.599
is it's coming off their cigarette.

1260
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:22.599
Or the Yeah, I'm looking.

1261
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.000
Yeah, I'm looking at all all all of that smoking

1262
01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:27.679
at the clubhouse or by the clubhouse, and you know

1263
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.800
that maybe they have a chimney with their cooking, and

1264
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.559
watching that smoke and watching the American flags, you know,

1265
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.920
the stadium, the stadium feet sometimes have flags. I'm looking

1266
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.599
at all of those, you know, comparing feeling what it

1267
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:42.280
feels like to me it's hitting me in the face,

1268
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.719
or coming off the right, checking checking, uh, you know,

1269
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.039
just the wind. Dire actually have a compass drawn in

1270
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.199
our book, so that's an easy way. It'll actually have

1271
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.639
to pull out a compass. Unles. I want the exact

1272
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.920
between employe degrees if I want to say it's helping

1273
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:58.599
off the right. But in general, you can look at

1274
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.639
the compass that I have drawn in the most people

1275
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.000
don't even know which way the golf course has turned.

1276
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.960
So just getting familiar with that would help people a lot. Sure,

1277
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.239
you know, because I mean it sounds like you're mainly

1278
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.320
talking You're not talking about people that play different places

1279
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.400
all the time, but just going out to normal club, Like, hey,

1280
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.679
do you know that you know has just win? Is

1281
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.000
this hole? Generally when you plays it down down went

1282
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:21.000
off the right, you know, or you know lots of

1283
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.119
different things. You know, playing before a storm is that

1284
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:24.840
you know, if there's a storm coming in your golf,

1285
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.440
one's going to go really far, you know, like I've been,

1286
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.000
you're playing just up until they blow the horn or

1287
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:32.519
there's lightning, or you don't know if the storm is

1288
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.079
going to hit or miss. You know, but the temperature

1289
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.079
drops and he's been playing before and that happened, right, Yeah,

1290
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.119
Well the golf all goes further. So normally you hit

1291
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.159
a seven iron, you know, from maybe one hundred and

1292
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:43.519
fifty yards or you know, I don't know how far

1293
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.599
you hit a seven iron. You might want to bump

1294
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.239
it down to an eight, you know, especially if the

1295
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:49.199
players to be short. That's the first question. You want

1296
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:50.920
to be long and short here, they want to be

1297
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:52.920
long and short, and then you can make an assessment

1298
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.079
from there. If there's a storm coming in, your hate

1299
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:57.519
iron is going to go pretty far because the baron

1300
01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.840
had pressure tends to drop, you know.

1301
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.840
M so, but yeah, well you so, like you and

1302
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.159
JB grew up in the South, so you're very used

1303
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.360
to humid weather. I would think, So, do you maybe

1304
01:02:11.519 --> 01:02:15.079
perhaps carry some talcum or some baby powder in your

1305
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.320
bag so that you can keep your hands a little

1306
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.000
drier and then when you clap your hands and to

1307
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.719
get the powder off, you'll see a little puff of

1308
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:25.480
that blowing around.

1309
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:27.280
Yeah, that's smart.

1310
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.639
We don't but yeah, you know exactly.

1311
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:33.920
I wonder if you kept some talcolm powder in your

1312
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.480
bag to do that to dry off his hands, if

1313
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.519
somebody would like not, that's illegal, you can't use it.

1314
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:40.880
It's like, what about drying my hands?

1315
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:41.760
Dude, leave me alone?

1316
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:44.440
You know. Yeah, we would, Yeah, we would check everything

1317
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.440
if we make any changes to our you're basically just

1318
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:49.800
talking about a change in routine. The right thing that

1319
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:51.920
we're gonna shire. We're going to make sure that you know,

1320
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.719
we're checking the rules community at the beginning, and we

1321
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.159
need to make sure that that's okay. Us a rain

1322
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.320
grip for the reason that black strip that he uses,

1323
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.760
you know, basically it's because of the humidity and everything.

1324
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.679
You just you go through those leather grips as fast. Uh,

1325
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.039
this material that they make the rain grips out of,

1326
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.079
which is smart and you don't have to change grips

1327
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.119
throughout the day. Gloves.

1328
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.079
How many gloves and how many gloves in a h

1329
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:16.880
in a weekend?

1330
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:17.719
Will he go through.

1331
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.639
One to day really like he's one to day just

1332
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:24.559
a new glove each day. Yeah hmm.

1333
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:26.679
And let's see, we'll listen.

1334
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.280
We know, next time you play, I want I want

1335
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.280
you to. I want you to really if you like

1336
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.559
this idea, I want you to consider having some talking

1337
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:36.880
with you and if he and if he uses it,

1338
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.599
when when he slaps his hand and look over to

1339
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.679
a camera and wink, and then you will know, we'll

1340
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:43.800
know that it was from us.

1341
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.920
Well, and then some of the other thing. Now we're

1342
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.119
you know, differentage. Everybody has some sort of technology, whether

1343
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.920
it's on their watch or a range bonder, you know

1344
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:58.199
for a GPS, whatever it is they use. Just start

1345
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:03.079
some sort of how far your golf ball actually goes.

1346
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.199
That'll help people out so much because if you ask somebody, well,

1347
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.760
how far is your seven iron? How far are you

1348
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.760
that you're seven iron. They'll say a general number like

1349
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.960
you know, one fifty five whatever, one fifty some people

1350
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:18.960
one a whatever. Well, when you start playing, and when

1351
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.320
you do that, the fetes fast hold you a driver

1352
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.039
there a five iron, I had two in the yards,

1353
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.320
I had a five iron. I had two hundred two

1354
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.199
the pen, and I have a ball mark next to

1355
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:33.519
the whole. It flew two hundred yards, but it probably didn't.

1356
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.440
It's more like one ninety. And I was trying to

1357
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.079
be short, so just trying to notice and then write

1358
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.360
that down like five iron one ninety. That's that's the

1359
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.360
biggest difference that tour guys have that well, they have

1360
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.480
a caddy. So that's that's one of the things I do,

1361
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:47.800
right down how far he hits every shot, how far

1362
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:50.119
the ball flew in the air, So even in the

1363
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:51.880
fair way, if I can find a ball mark where

1364
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.239
his driver landed. And we had three twenty five to

1365
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.679
cover a bunker and then covered about ten steps, I

1366
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.440
knew that ball flew three thirty five. All right, drivers

1367
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.679
very top, you know, and then we know if it's

1368
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:06.360
running out how far hot did it run out? Twenty yards?

1369
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:08.239
They run out thirty yards, Like, what is the ball

1370
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:10.800
generally doing the name of the game is moving your

1371
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:15.599
golf ball around this course. So knowing how far you

1372
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.559
hit it is very important and people don't yep.

1373
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:23.199
Very important, very important. Yeah, there's a there's a product

1374
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.079
out now. There's a product out now called game Golf

1375
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.519
that I know that Have you seen it?

1376
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.000
Yeah? I saw it. I just couldn't understand why you

1377
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:33.039
wouldn't just write it down.

1378
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.960
Well, I'll tell you. It's interesting because I know that

1379
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:42.199
Lee Westwood, Graham McDowell, and now Jim Furika are using it.

1380
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:46.119
I actually played golf with the CEO of the company

1381
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:49.440
last week and I did a video that's going to

1382
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:51.440
be coming up and an episode's going to be coming

1383
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:55.760
up with him soon. It for me writing down I

1384
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.400
don't have the wherewithal to write down every shot and

1385
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.519
what how or it went and what it did. But

1386
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.079
when I take when I use this thing and I

1387
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:05.519
take it off at the end of the round and

1388
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:07.639
I plug it into my computer, it gives me all

1389
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:13.039
that information and it gives me statistics. It's really helped

1390
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:15.719
my game and what it where it's helped my game

1391
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:17.880
more is showing me where my holes are. In my

1392
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.840
game and what I should be working on. I think

1393
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:22.119
I think it's a great product.

1394
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:23.920
Yeah, that's awesome.

1395
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.280
Yeah, we'll talk more about that soon in the upcoming episodes.

1396
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:31.119
Hey Brandon, this has been a long time. I know

1397
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:33.119
you've got to get back on the road because you've

1398
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.800
got things to do. I really appreciate your time.

1399
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:38.719
Yeah, I'm George talking so anytime.

1400
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:42.519
Thank you, thank you, and best of luck to you

1401
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.480
and JB. Safe travels. Of course, have a great time

1402
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.760
at the Open Championship, and I would love to catch

1403
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:52.920
up with you maybe after the season, maybe we can

1404
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.079
try to get together again and and and hear how

1405
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:55.840
things went for you.

1406
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.320
Yeah, thanks so much. I was a part of talking.

1407
01:06:58.599 --> 01:06:59.760
Thanks for having me on your joff