Feb. 6, 2026

Never Let A Bad Swing Get In The Way of a Good Round with John Grund

Never Let A Bad Swing Get In The Way of a Good Round with John Grund
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GS#483 April 7, 2015: “There’s not a golf professional in the world who thinks about hitting the ball!” is just one of the eye opening comments from this week’s guest, John Grund PGA. John has competed at the pro level, and has coached players who’ve competed at every level, but he knows that most amateur golfers focus more on the ball then on their target. He also talks about the quickest way to hit the ball straighter and get more distance is to find the bottom or your swing arc. It supposed to be in front of the ball where most of us try to hit the back of the ball. Have you ever noticed how many times per round your divot is behind the ball?
At the end of the episode, John provides us with a video tutorial on how to find the bottom of the arc of your swing. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/Lkg8YcKyj90  
JohnGrundGolf@gmail.com https://www.peacockgapgolfclub.com/practice/instructors.php

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Hi, This is June Gaston from Colorado Springs, Colorado, and

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I play at Chair Triage golf Course. Golf Smarter number

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four hundred and eighty three, published on April seven, twenty fifteen.

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like this that are no longer available in any podcast app.

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It's an old joke with golf pros.

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The student company said, well, if I could just get

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that bof off the tee closer to the whole and

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we said, well, that's conceptually you have the idea, right,

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and they go, what do you mean? I said, well,

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I'll give you twenty yards off every tee, but my

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guess is you probably.

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Won't beat your last golf scorer.

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Now what do you mean, Well, I'll give you twenty yards, right,

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So you give the guy twenty yards, but it's on

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the same line that he hit it. So if it's

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going towards the right rough, now it's deep in the

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rough at twenty more yards and if it's in the

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center of the.

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Fair, and then he gets twenty yards closer.

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Right, But most people really wouldn't improve that much with

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the extra twenty yards. Surprisingly for most people that they

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would actually struggle just as much. So the reality is

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when they start doing and that's my coaching is going

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in that direction is more I would say, real time assessment.

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I'm offering a product now to my students called shot

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by Shot which analyzes your game in real time and

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you do it yourself. It's real simple. You rate your

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drives one through six, did you hit the green, did

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you not hit the green? And then we find out

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what you did inside of fifty yards.

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Never let a bad golf swing get in the way

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of a good round. With DGA certified instructor John Grund,

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this is Golf Smarter Premium. Here's your host, Fred Green.

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Welcome back to the Golf Smarter Podcast. John. Thanks, Fred,

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good to be here. It's great to see you again.

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Tell me what's going on in your life. I appreciate

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you coming here today because I know that you're leaving

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town first thing in the morning.

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Right, yep, where are you going?

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I'm going to a golf tournament and you're playing, You're

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not watching.

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I'm playing.

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Yeah, the first time I've played in about seven months.

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Success in September, first golf tournament for me. I got

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a little accident, little injury. So I'm coming back from

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that and trying.

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To and what is the what's the tournament.

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It's the Senior PGA Northern calis Senior PGA Match Play Championship. Okay,

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so members of the PGA of Northern California who also

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happen to be members of the National PGA Club Club Professionals.

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It's our senior section championship. And it's match play, okay.

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So there's a match play right now and then later

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the summer there'll be a stroke play version of it.

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And you've you've played in this tournament, yes, in the past,

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And how have you done.

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I lost two years ago, I think in the semi finals,

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played okay. The year before that I had lost in

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the quarterfinals. So and then last year I didn't play

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for some reason. I don't know what it was.

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But you have experience in two PGA Tour tournament place.

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Yes, yeah, it's been a while, but I've played a

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lot of tournament golf the last seven or eight years

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has been a little bit less than probably than I thought.

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I would have because you're focusing on teaching.

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Yeah, and I had another business too, as we've talked

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about before, in the golf industry, and I sold that.

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Now I'm back to focusing on teaching and coaching full time.

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So you know, it's hard to ride two horses, but

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I'm trying to. It's it's a challenge to keep it

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in perspective, but it's actually good for me, I think,

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in the sense that I'm kind of getting in the

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zone where my students kind of come from, and that's

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probably a healthy thing.

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Yeah, very much.

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So tell me no, but you have some PGA tour experience.

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Yeah, No, I played full time after leaving UCLA. I

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thought I'd go into the insurance business and that was laughable.

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So that lasted for a couple of years, and I

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kept playing amateur events and kept playing better.

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This is a footnote to that.

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You know, it's every guy from my golf team basically

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is still playing golf.

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I mean, you know, you know.

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So it's like I was like the fifth man on

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a college golf team, and I thought, surely a fifth

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man has to go go work for a living, not

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play golf. Not that golf's not work, but you know

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that type of work.

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So but I did. I went out and.

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Worked for a brief period of time in the insurance business,

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which I trained to do, and found myself playing better

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and better in amateur events. So I pursued a golf

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career and made that decision in nineteen eighty one to

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be a full time no, let's see eighty three, to

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be a full time golf professional. I guess eighty two

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or something, and I just haven't looked back since then.

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I've stayed in the golf world as a golf professional,

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and I was able to play overseas South African tours,

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Canadian tours, a little bit in the South Pacific, a

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little bit in Mexico, a little bit in OURPGA tour.

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Tell me about that. That's where I'm trying to get too.

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Well, Okay, what did you go? Well?

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I so back in the earlier days, I'm trying to

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think what they called it before the Hogan Tour. I'm

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a dinosaur. So before the Hogan Tour, which then became

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some other tour, Nike Tour, and then it became the

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web dot Com tour. It was called the uh what

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was it called? For about three or four years, they

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actually canceled it lasted. That's how Tom Lahman got on

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the regular tour. A lot of guys came from that tour.

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They played ten events. They were all one hundred thousand

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dollars and.

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One hundred thousand dollars person person.

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Yeah, okay, yeah, there wasn't much to play for.

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Quite frankly, I thought they were charging you on no, no, no,

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it was one hundred thousand dollars person. There was ten

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of them, and if you did well enough, you could

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actually I forget how it worked, but I think the

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top ten money winners were exempt of the tour finals.

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They didn't even give you a tour card. I don't think.

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Maybe they did.

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I don't know.

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It's been a long time. I certainly was not one

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of those guys, but I played enough of them. I

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played a few of them, a few cuts here or there,

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but nothing of any I was better on my home

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turf in southern California.

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Competing in events, and I did okay. In Canada.

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I never won, but I had a couple of seconds. Well, yeah,

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that's that's impressive.

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Too. Yeah, you know, I was, I was a tournament.

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Golf is just to me, it's it's like it is

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what parody is about, right, you have to have parody.

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There's yea. I love dynasties in any sport. I think

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dynasties help a sport. But you really, you you may

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get that once in a generation in professional golf, you

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get a person who dominates the tour.

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Oh well, yeah, that's you know, as Malcolm Gladwell would

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call them, they're the outliers. They're just different people and

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there's no uh they don't fit into uh they don't

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fit into categories. They create categories.

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Well, we're talking about Tiger Arnie Jack, you know, I

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mean it's.

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Well, yeah, I mean, if you go there, I mean

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I have some opinions on that, but well you hear it. Well,

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I mean, you know, probably Walter Hagen would have been

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one of the first first, you know, as a professional

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golfer in our country. Byron Nelson certainly was for a

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period of time, Ben Hogan was, and they all had

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different characteristics. I honestly think Byron Nelson could shoot lower

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scores than anybody in the history of the game for

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quite a while. I mean he shot he posted some

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numbers that were I think for a long time he

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had the lowest single year stroke average on the PGA

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Tour for like fifty years until time, right, I think

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it was like sixty seven point something or sixty eight

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or sixty seven, and I mean he was, Well, that's.

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That's so interesting that even today, with all the advancements

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and all the you know, the the change in fitness

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and and the body types and the distance, and still scores.

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Are not decreased.

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And the average score, yeah, from the PG eight from

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the PGA Tour to the amateur golf and somebody could

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probably I'm just going a little bit off my past knowledge,

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and you know, cause stats are so I don't have

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Siri with me right now, but I can honestly tell

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you I don't think the scores have dramatically decreased that

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much in either category. And I honestly say an amateur

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golf if if at all, really you know, the the

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amount of subject, you know, there's just not that many

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people shooting that much lower golf scores. And let's classify

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that for a minute. Courses are not as well conditioned

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today than they were today. They're not I mean then

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they weren't as well conditioned exactly, and so greens were

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a little bit slower, but they were bumpier, so putts

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didn't go in as easy. But then again you could

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be more aggressive. Like we saw last year at the

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British Open. You know, you saw some greens that were

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rolling kind of pretty standard stuff, you know, tens, you know,

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rolling on what we call a stint meter. I don't

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think anybody knows really what not many people have ever

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used one or seen one in their life, but everybody

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talks about a stimpt meter. I have my own personal

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stint meter, and that's your brain right.

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No, No, Actually, what I do is when I go

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to the practice putting green, I'll take three strokes. I'll

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try to find a flat spot on the practice putting

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green and I'll take three strokes. I won't even look

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at the ball once it leaves the putterhead. I'll just

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keep my head focus, taking just my normal stroke, and

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then I'll walk it off. Yeah okay, and then I'll go, okay,

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today it's a six, or it's a you know, and

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it's a lot with advertre or it's an eight, and

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that tells me, gives me a sense of what the greens.

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Are going to be right that day.

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So anyway, the Stint meter was by a guy named

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a Stimp and it's it's it looks like an old

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hot wheels track and it has a dimple in it

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and you lift it up slowly and we just yourself

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on the hot.

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Wheels track, you know that. Pardon and dated yourself on wheel.

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They're still cool, hopefully they're coming back, hopefully, And there's

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an app for that.

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There's an app for that.

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And when you lift it up, it rolls off and

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if it's on a flat green, the distance that it

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rolls and they take the average of so many but

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and you know, greens vary. That's sort of my specialty,

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but they vary over a period of time. But yeah,

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so the game is changing, and so we have Hogan

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that I think was probably one of the most precision

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driven players ever in the game. And he overcame some

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extreme difficulties. You know, as we know, he was hit

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and get a car accident, hit by bus and greyhound

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bus and so he was a different type of guy.

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He hit the ball and his career changed a little bit.

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You know, he came on the tour is kind of

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a long driver. I don't know if people remember that

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for a guy who was one hundred and forty pounds,

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he could just smash it.

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If you go from.

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Power Golf to to the five Easy Lessons or five

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Easy Lessons or whatever, you know, swing changed quite a bit.

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And I think that was a little bit of flexibility.

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so he was trying to figure out how to how to.

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Deal with that.

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Why are so many people obsessed with trying to find

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this secret to Ben Hogan?

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we saw on golf. I mean, Bobby Jones was similar,

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but he combined both power and finesse in a way

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that we hadn't quite seen before. And so I think

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that was one of the things. And his record was

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pretty impressive, you know, his ability to win majors and

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respond to the moment for major championships was tremendous, and

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when you watched him, it was like, you know, it

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was like and again to date myself, I mean, it

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was like it was a car.

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Every shot was a carbon copy.

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I mean one of the things you a lot of

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people will not really recognize, but we now can we

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can track with launch monitors is elevation and our shot

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arc And with Hogan, his shots were so consistent coming

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off the face, So he would hit a seven iron

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every time.

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I mean, it wouldn't.

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Vary on its on its trajectory, and drivers were the

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same way, and if he wanted to, he did. And

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the stories are analyst about him. I happened to spend

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a lot of time at one point in my early

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right before I turned pro, with a man named and

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after I did shortly seventy nine, eighty eighty one, eighty

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two eighty three, with a guy named John Shlee, who

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Ben Hogan befriended for some unknown reason, except that Shelee

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approached him one day and said, I'd like to take

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lessons from you, and no one did that. I mean,

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it was like, what have you just done?

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You just talked about Hogan? What did you do? That's crazy?

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You know you can't say that to mister Hogan, right,

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And so that that.

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There was like a islands in the room, like you know,

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like it was this huge faux pa. And so a

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couple of years later, Hogan approached him and said, John,

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how you play it? You're talking to me, mister Rogart,

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and you know, I've been following your career, you're following

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my what.

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Uh And sure enough they became close friends, and so

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he spent a lot of time down and down in

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Dallas playing.

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With it was either Preston Trail or whatever wherever they played.

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Shady shitty oaks, I think, but they spent a lot

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of time and uh, he had some very interesting stories

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and almost none of them have to do with mechanics.

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Really, Yeah, what does he talk about?

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Oh, that's so interesting.

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Yeah, that's that's where you know, and that's for me

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as an instructor.

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That's what I like.

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You know, I'm a I like just haven't been involved

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in sports at different times in my life and sort

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of a I wouldn't say not fanatic, maybe I am.

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I love sports, you know, like Tomorrow nights pretty.

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Much the national holiday, right, the national championship, a national championship.

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It's a national holiday. I mean, you know, for me,

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I mean, I just.

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That's another conversation.

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Yeah, right.

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But what I'm saying is is behavior wins, see, you know,

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and we saw it last night. You know, we saw

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two matchups of some two classic teams and the guy Wisconsin. Yeah,

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the guys that were able to impose their will on

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the other team one five years from now, where we

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see how many of those guys in Wisconsin playing in

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the NBA and how many guys from those Kentucky playing

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in the NBA. Yeah, Yeah, you just gave a pretty

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good number there, and I think you're probably pretty close

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to right.

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And but last night, Uh, the guys from.

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Wisconsin, the Badgers, Yeah, the Beedgers, Badgers, the Edgers, the Panger.

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They were able to impose their will on some Wildcats,

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right and uh and they won. So Hogan, I think

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that's one of the impressive things about him, was able

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to impose his will on a golf course. One of

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my mentors was a man named Eddie Marin's still pro

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emeritus a bel air, Yeah, and my coach at UCLA,

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and I started taking lessons from him in the mid seventies.

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Oh that's a hot wheel thing I just did myself.

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So anyway, but mister Marrin's is a tremendous instructor. And

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I remember one time he told me I had transferred

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there from a Division two school to finish up my

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career in college golf, and I was transferred into a

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team that had you know, they were number one in

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the country and their second team was probably number two,

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so maybe not quite but pretty close. And and I

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I was playing pretty well, you know, in the fall schedule.

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I played okay, and I was kind of on the

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border making the traveling team in the spring. And he

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says to me, John, he says, listen, Son.

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There's four areas.

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There's four there's four things you need to do at golf.

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He says, if you learn how to control yourself, you

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can you can control the club. If you control the club,

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you can control your shots. If you control your shots,

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you have a moderate amount of control over that golf course.

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And if you focus on those things, those first three things,

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you can slightly impose your will on the course. Otherwise

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the course is going to dictate the terms to you,

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and you want to be on the other end of

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that stick if you want to play your best golf.

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So Ben Hogan was sort of the epitome of that.

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He was able to impose his will on golf courses

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because he could determine. And getting back to John Shlee,

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I remember Slee took me out one day and we

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were talking about driving and he says, what's going on

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with your game? And at this time I was a

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club champion I think at Industry Hills where he was teaching,

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and we went out and played, and he said, you know,

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I was having trouble with my driver one day and

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I asked mister Hogan about how I can improve my driving,

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and he says, well, John jumping the cart with me,

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and they jumped out and they went out on the

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golf course and he says, see this dibot. That was

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my dibbot this morning. He said, see the dibbot five

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feet right of that. That was my dibot this afternoon.

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The problem with that is my spot that I was

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picked out was twenty feet left of that. I hit

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both of these bat Then he went the next hole

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and literally he was picking out spots in the fairway

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where he wanted his ball to end up, and the divot.

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Was pretty much with it.

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You know, He's picked out sides of you know, dark

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spots and light spots in the fairway. He wasn't aiming

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at trees and trying to hit lines. He wanted his

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ball to end up like his nine iron right. He

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was picking blades of grass well basically. I mean, he

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was you know, we I'm gonna take it over that

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right edge of the bunker. Hogan was like, no, I

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want the ball to land, and I want it to

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end up there, right because from there, that's the shot

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I want into the hole. Right that that's the shot

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that I like the look of that shot, you know,

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or the shot plays better for me, or it's an

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easier shot in you know, if you got a front

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left pin, being being short left and in between clubs

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is not a good place to be. Maybe being on

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the right side of the fairway not in between clubs.

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You know, you might be twenty yards shorter there on

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the left if you can drive.

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It away up there.

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But hitting the three wood to the right side of

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the fairway might open Might it open open it up

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for you a little bit? You know, It just depends.

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And it's everybody has their shot patterns that they like

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to play. But he was a master of that. And

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I think that's so behavior wins, and so those who

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can practice, Like for like, I'm trying to get ready

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for a golf tournament, and you know, that's a brain

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that I got to kind of crawl back into and

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tournament preparation is a little bit different than normal practice. Well,

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you kind of want to recreate like I'm I'm trying

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to get I'm trying to look at my wedges right

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now and see what my distances are. And so I

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with a launch monitor, now I can practice in real time.

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I can practice. I can get.

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Results that are actual, real.

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Not just oh I think I'm hitting at eighty four

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yards with my fifty two degree sandwich or fifty four

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or whatever. No, I'm actually hitting eighty seven. That's the

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number when I bust this thing. And for me, I'm consistent.

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I can stand there and hit twenty eighty seven yard

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sandwiches in a row, I mean literally within a yard

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of each other if I hit it solid. And so

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I want to know what I'm doing, and so when

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I practice, I want to practic just kind of a

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little bit like I'm playing. So I want to know

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the yardages I'm trying to prep by what yardis am

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I currently hitting shots right now? And I want to

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roll some pots, put a little real time pressure on

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my stroke on the putting green. So I have a

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few drills that I used, nothing complex, but just trying

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to kind of get ready to get my brain ready

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for I was going to say, it's not about the mechanics,

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not really, no, no, And like I was given a

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lesson yesterday to a promising young twelve year old boy,

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and he's got some talent, and nobody actually introduced to

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him the idea of a preshot routine, and he had

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he'd kind of figured it a little bit out of

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all on his own, you know, because he's got some

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he had some skill and.

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A twelve year old yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, and he's got some skill already, you know, he

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can go out and shoot. So we were talking. He

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comes to me, this is you'll love this one. So

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he says, you know, I think I want to work

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on my driver today. And I go really, oh, okay,

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well what's going on with your driver? And he goes, well,

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I played didn't play too well the other day. I go,

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w'd you shoot? He goes, well, I had a really

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tough day. It was kind of windy and cold. But

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I shut forty one at mckinnis or forty two or something.

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I said, okay, well tell me about the round that's

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a par thirty thirty two, right, yeah, And it wasn't.

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It wasn't his best round, but because I think he

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shut close to par there a few times. But yeah,

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or maybe he's even broken, but he can play much better.

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So I said, well, tell me about the round. I said, okay,

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so I hit a good drive. I hit a drive

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off one and kind of on the wrong side of

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the fairway. I didn't hit it quite as long, but

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I had wedge in and I said, okay, what'd you

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hit on the next hole? I had wedge in the

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next hole. I said, what'd you do on the third hole?

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I missed the green? So what'd you hit next? For

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the second shop? I had wedge pretty close, but I

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didn't put so well. And we go through things and

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I said, okay, so so far during this nine hole,

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as you're telling me, you had nine shots inside of

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ninety five yards, okay.

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And how many pets did you have? Oh? I had?

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I had twenty three pots. So you had thirty two

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shots with a wedge and a putter.

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Wow.

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Again McGinnis as an executive little golf course. Right, it's

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part three, but there are three. It's the number one,

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three number four.

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There's like five part three's six or four or five

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part three.

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Four four four parts and four part four is four

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part fours. Yeah, four part fours and five part Three's right.

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So the point I was trying to make to them

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was if you want to be better, your behavior has

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to become better and then your golf swing gets better. Okay,

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so I said, so when you practice, practice the things

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that you're not doing well enough on the golf course.

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Why would anybody want to do that? Why would I

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want to go practice things that I can't do well?

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I want to hit the ball, like.

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Most people go to the golf course and they have that.

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For them, golf is an activity. It's not a process

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of getting better. They think it's a process of getting better,

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but they're actually just doing an activity because they have

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no idea what actual behavior will actually make them better.

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They don't know how to practice. So if you want

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to hang out with somebody that plays really quality golf,

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you will find that they practice more efficiently. They practice

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the things that are that they need to improve upon

473
00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.880
because they through determination of skill and knowledge, they determine

474
00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.559
and maybe today technology they're able to determine their inefficiencies

475
00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:34.160
for them, and they'll practice things that may draw upon

476
00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.480
for the next tournament. That like courses might require a

477
00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.079
little more driving accuracy, or might require a little more

478
00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:40.920
wedge play, or might like this week, we got a

479
00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.960
gusta coming up. So lag putting becomes number one, speed

480
00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:49.240
control becomes imperative, and iron control becomes number two. And

481
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.400
so those are you know, things that you need to

482
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:52.880
be blow the hole, you need to.

483
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:53.759
Have uphill putts.

484
00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.160
You don't want to put yourself position where it's really

485
00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:01.240
tough to two putt right, let alone one putt. So

486
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.839
so with this young man, we said, you know, well,

487
00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.559
thirty three shots with the do you think that's really

488
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:08.480
the problem the driver?

489
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.759
Hmmm, what do you think he probably didn't have that

490
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.559
many shots with a driver.

491
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:15.519
Well, no, he didn't.

492
00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:19.200
But but the point is is, you know he he

493
00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.000
had like nine wedge I mean of the holes of

494
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:23.759
all the par fours he had wedge in.

495
00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:24.400
Yeah.

496
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:26.440
So and they are a long hole. I'm just saying,

497
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:28.400
in his mind, he's thinking he wants to drive it

498
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.880
longer and hit it longer. And I know that's standard

499
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.240
for a young twelve year old thinking he wants to

500
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:35.000
hit it further and our farther. I think it's the

501
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.640
quick pest, but we all do. Yeah, And and and

502
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.920
we all think that, and that's that's one of the ironies.

503
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.160
It's an old joke with golf pros. But the student

504
00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.000
comes to he said, well, if you know, if I

505
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.440
could just get that ball off the tee closer to

506
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.200
the hole, you know, And he said, well, that's conceptually

507
00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.799
you have the idea, right, and they go, what do

508
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.000
you mean. I said, well, I'll give you twenty yards

509
00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:01.319
off every tee, but my guesses you probably won't beat

510
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.720
your last golf score. What do you mean, well, I'll

511
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.240
give you twenty yards. Okay, that's all right. So you

512
00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:10.119
give the guy twenty yards, but it's on the same

513
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.839
line that he hit it. So if it's going towards

514
00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.039
the right rough, now it's deep in the rough at

515
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.519
twenty more yards, and if it's in the center of

516
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.200
the fair and then he gets twenty yards closer. Right,

517
00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.680
But most people, really they don't. They wouldn't improve that

518
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:26.640
much with the extra twenty yards. Surprisingly, for most people,

519
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.079
they wouldn't. They wouldn't that they would actually struggle just

520
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.240
as much. So the reality is when they start doing

521
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.839
and that's my coaching is going in that direction is

522
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:38.400
more I would say real time assessment I'm offering a

523
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.119
product now to my students called shot by Shot which

524
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.000
analyzes your game in real time and you do it yourself.

525
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.160
It's real simple. You rate your drives one through six,

526
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.119
did you hit the green, did you not hit the green?

527
00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.400
And then we find out what you did inside of

528
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:55.319
fifty yards and you know, it's real simple stuff. And

529
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.119
from that there's like a three hundred thousand round database

530
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:00.519
and we can kind of drive some of the amazing

531
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.799
stats that will help you doing short game challenges with

532
00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:08.000
people finding out. So most people really have no idea

533
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:09.680
how far they can carry it. If you ask them

534
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:13.160
to carry a forty four yard shot, no, they wouldn't

535
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.000
know what that really is and they and they probably

536
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.519
wouldn't make solid enough contact.

537
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:17.759
So that's that's the.

538
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.200
One area where the instruction does have to be. You

539
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.759
have to get people. The most important thing any golfer

540
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:29.920
can ever do, ever, unequivocally ever is find the low

541
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.519
point of his arc. And he can consistently do that.

542
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.119
That defines the quality of the player.

543
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:36.880
If you want to, I need to tell because I

544
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:38.720
want to clarify this arc of your.

545
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:40.920
Swing or arc of the ball flight, arc of your swing.

546
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.480
Okay, the low point.

547
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.799
The low point because the golf balls hit first, and

548
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.759
the bottom right, the bottom, the bottom of your arc

549
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.920
is for all players of lower handicap or you know,

550
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.240
the lower the lower lower, it's between probably an inch

551
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.720
and almost two inches in front of the ball. So

552
00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.640
everybody thinks they hit the ball and then the club

553
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.920
moves up up Now with a driver, I will I

554
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.519
will verify that.

555
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.880
There's there's two schools of thought in this.

556
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.200
Most of the launch monitors will tell you the best

557
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.920
players in the world who just slight me up on it,

558
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.720
and I think that's true. But the drivers are deeper

559
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:16.720
now and they're different, so.

560
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:19.480
Technically center of gravity, yeah, the pushback.

561
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:23.000
So so your arc is it's a little I haven't

562
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:25.079
quite my brain hasn't wrapped around that one. I'm not

563
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.119
maybe quite that quickly smart enough.

564
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:31.480
So so professional players, the better players, the bottom of

565
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.559
the arc is in front of where the ball is setting.

566
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:40.000
That's correct, and for most amateurs, most of os, it's

567
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.240
that's why so many people hit the ground first, you know,

568
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.640
because there is it now, is that a set up

569
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.119
position or is that.

570
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:50.599
Well, you know, we can follow my thought. Let me

571
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:52.160
follow with my thoughts mechanics.

572
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.799
So so with the short game, you know what good

573
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.720
players do is they control their ball after it lands. Right,

574
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.039
the best wedge players in the world control their ball

575
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.880
after it lands. First of all, they know. I think

576
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.920
I've told you the story before, but I had an

577
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:13.759
illuminating story when I was about let's see what year was.

578
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.440
It was nineteen seventy seven, so whatever. I was eighteen,

579
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.640
nineteen years old and I have this illuminating moment. I

580
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.400
go up to a golf club near my house to

581
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.160
drop off some stuff and there's Hubert Green on the

582
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.000
driving range.

583
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.359
It was basically, if.

584
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.240
You're a musician, it would be like walking into a

585
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.039
record shop in San Mafel and finding Bono. Yeah right,

586
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:38.880
okay for me, right, it was like really, so I'm

587
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.079
down there, I'm all by myself. I'm watching Herebert Green

588
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.079
hit golf balls. And he looks around at me and

589
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:45.000
I'm five feet ten feet away from him, and he says,

590
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.400
are you a golfer, which you know, I guess.

591
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.279
He was just a conversation. So I said, yes, sir.

592
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.799
And by the way, just people don't know this, and

593
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:53.799
I think he was.

594
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.839
A purple hard guy. Twice so he has a little

595
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.200
sense of intensity about him when you talk to him.

596
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.480
He just you know, it's just like this piercedness, you know,

597
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:03.400
like what he says to you, it's like, yes, sir, yeah,

598
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:04.160
I played golf, sir.

599
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:05.240
He goes.

600
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.720
A few minutes later, he goes, well, do you want

601
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.480
to know why I'm the best golfer in the world?

602
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.279
And I said I'd love to know. Yes, I would

603
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:12.599
like to know.

604
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.000
He proceeded to hit three shots with each golf club

605
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.119
in the bag at different heights and different elevations and

606
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.920
different distances and different shapes, and basically called every shot

607
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.079
and the finish at off he hit I'm now going

608
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.720
to hit a driver one hundred and fifty yards with

609
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.039
a full golf swing, and which he did. And then

610
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.119
what really backed it up for me is he went

611
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.400
out and won the US Open a month later, wow,

612
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.920
with a death thread on him, by the way, a

613
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.640
little little by the by Wow, which I guess was

614
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.000
not you know, he understood that world pretty quickly.

615
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.599
So waking up thinking you might die to day, then

616
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:43.599
you got to play the us O.

617
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.599
Yeah, right, he's got to shoot you, right, Yeah, a

618
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.720
couple of right, So he gets that anyway, so that

619
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:50.400
for me was the first area of well, if I

620
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.680
learned how to control my golf ball, then I get better.

621
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.640
I say, so, it's not it's you know, it's not now.

622
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.480
I used to think it was always the arrow and

623
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.599
not the always the Indian and the not the arrow,

624
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.240
and now it's combination with launch monitor. The equipment's huge,

625
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:04.400
don't underestimate it.

626
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:05.039
It's massive.

627
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.880
But you know, you need to match your equipment to

628
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.599
you whatever Indian you are, right, So we have technology

629
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.039
to be able to do that, and that's mass. I

630
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.920
think that's probably the biggest change in the game in

631
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.440
the last fifteen to twenty years is being able to

632
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.079
the combination of the technology and then matching your game

633
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.359
to that technology to get the most out of whatever.

634
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:28.880
Skill sets you have.

635
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.000
But that being said, the best players control their wedge

636
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.559
game by hitting the ball consistently and in the manner

637
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.160
in which they want to do it, so when they

638
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.000
make contact, it's a sound. It's a discernible sound. Maybe

639
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.599
not so discernible with little wedge play, but little pit

640
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.480
shots and little chip shots. You need to hit that

641
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.160
ball first, and the low point is going to be

642
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.799
slightly in front of the ball and unless you do that,

643
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.079
then you can't control the ball the way you want it.

644
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.279
And you know a lot of players with their wedge

645
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.680
play fight too much spin. That's the better players. Right,

646
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:01.720
you're hitting a little shot and you don't want it

647
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.480
to stop. You needed to you need to roll and

648
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:05.440
roll out. A lot of times you hit a sand

649
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.279
wedge and all sudden, oh gosh, it stopped. I didn't

650
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.720
want it to stop. Now I got a twenty footer.

651
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:13.559
So controlling the ball, shooge and the wedge wedge play

652
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.480
is massive. So again bringing back to this young young man,

653
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.920
twenty three pots, that's a really bad and the wedge

654
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.400
play could have been a little bit closer.

655
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.720
So what should he be practicing? Right?

656
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.960
Putting and work in the wedge and you know, twelve

657
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.880
years old, why not because he's not going to get

658
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.240
the distance it's going to come. His golf swing's fine,

659
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.799
he'll hit it further farther whatever.

660
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.680
I go, he's correct, and so.

661
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.079
He's got to do that, and so we need to.

662
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.480
But we the lesson I was trying to share with

663
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.480
him was, hmm, how do I behave how do I

664
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:50.839
react to my results?

665
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:52.799
And how do I look at them?

666
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.000
And how do I educate myself on what I do

667
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.519
on the golf course and how do I reflect on it,

668
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.119
and then how do I get better? And I think

669
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.799
that was a great thing for me. When I transferred

670
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.039
to UCLA, was hanging around guys like Corey Paven and

671
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.240
Tom Pernice and Steve Pate and Jay Delson, all these

672
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.880
guys that have won PGA Tour events. Duffie Waldorf Is,

673
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.759
they did that. They did that very well. And I

674
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.480
think a little bit what happened to be mister Marrin's

675
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:20.680
He invoked sort of that aura of behavior as the

676
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.279
lesson he gave me. But it was important to review

677
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.200
what have I done on the golf course. I remember

678
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.359
I was playing Mini Tours. I was struggling a little bit,

679
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.200
and I started keeping notes on my up and downs

680
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.000
from different distances and my ratios, and so I started

681
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.559
noticing I had a huge gap between about forty and

682
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.680
about eighty five yards, and so.

683
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.680
I started working on that.

684
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.920
And the minute I did that, you know, suddenly I'm

685
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.039
playing in US opens, I'm finishing high and the money

686
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.680
lists and professional events outside of the country. And I

687
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.880
didn't do anything massively different. I just learned how to

688
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.279
manage my wedge game between about thirty five and about

689
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:57.519
ninety yards.

690
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:03.759
That's yeah.

691
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:05.680
I noticed that for myself as well, that when my

692
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.599
start with my scores were going down, it's because I

693
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.839
was focusing on those that distance and those shots.

694
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.079
Right, sot and stuff.

695
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.519
I wanted to talk to you as an instructor, and

696
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.079
you even talked about this, Every shot was a carbon

697
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:24.319
copy and you're talking about Hogan. When when students come

698
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.559
to you for the first time, what are the the

699
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:32.000
two things that you hear from most students on what

700
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.880
they you know, like, why are you here? Distance in consistency, distancing.

701
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.440
It's just everybody says the same thing. Every instructor says distances.

702
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.640
Most people are pretty much I mean, you know, there's

703
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.039
there's some element of that neess to it, and some

704
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.079
sometimes very clearly.

705
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:48.599
It's just that.

706
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:51.480
And and what I've been noticing too so that.

707
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.720
People are starting to that people are starting to say

708
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.920
I get more questions now about putting than I used.

709
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.279
To interesting, and I don't know why that is, but

710
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.279
it is okay.

711
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.519
So what I want to go after today is the

712
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:12.799
myth of consistency. I think because I think that it's

713
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.640
so interesting to play with people on a regular basis

714
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.640
and hear them complain about a shot that they make.

715
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:24.680
But I don't think they notice or recognize that they

716
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.079
complain about that shot regularly, you know. And I was thinking.

717
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.119
I even wrote to somebody recently and said, try this

718
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.680
on your scorecard. When you make a shot that you

719
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.119
don't like. The first time you make a shot you

720
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.200
don't like, just make a mark on your scorecard, okay,

721
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.200
and focus on every time that happens in your round.

722
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.880
Make the mark and see how many marks you've made

723
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.240
during your round to like, oh wait, I did that

724
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.799
six times today, seven times. I did that twelve times today.

725
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.640
So to me, that means they're incredibly consistent.

726
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.200
Well right, I mean it's interesting.

727
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:09.320
I mean, let's define consistency a little bit, or inconsistency.

728
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.880
The problems they have are reoccurring, and they're the same

729
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:18.840
problems over and over, so therefore it is a consistent issue.

730
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:22.920
They view it is is that they want to be better.

731
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.199
So their idea of themselves, you know, it's sort of

732
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.199
like it's a little everybody's a little gullible. They always

733
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.039
think they're a little better than they are or it's

734
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.880
a sting, you know. It's like the sting operations. People

735
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.679
can they believe something that they're not and so so

736
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.920
that premise allows them to think that they're inconsistent. But

737
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.920
when I put them on video or I put them

738
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.960
on a launch monitor with Doppler radar, like we see

739
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:52.679
players using or their swings are massively consistent, massively consistent,

740
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.159
I mean, there's consistent as tour pros almost.

741
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:55.639
You know.

742
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.199
The problem is is that their pad, their swing patterns

743
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.679
will create a wide a more wide variety of shots

744
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.559
because of their inefficiency. But the pattern of their swing

745
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:11.440
is relatively the same way if I if I was

746
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.119
to put it on three D motion detector, their body

747
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:15.920
is going to be doing the same thing over and

748
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.039
over again. Their pelvis will be reacting the same way.

749
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.239
Their spine angle will be the same way. If we

750
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.639
look at their club head moving around their body, it

751
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.039
will basically follow a very consistent pattern to a certain extent,

752
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.320
especially people that have played for a considerable amount of time.

753
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.320
Beginners maybe not so much, but people that are that

754
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.440
you know, have played, you know, they played enough golf.

755
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.920
They think they're being inconsistent. They are consistent, they're just

756
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:50.199
consistently inefficient at creating a low point of arc in

757
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:50.880
front of the ball.

758
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.679
So how do you convince these students that know you

759
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.199
actually are consistent.

760
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.119
Well, I put them on you, and I just show

761
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:58.760
them the pattern of their golf club, and then I

762
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.480
take a look at their golf face of their face,

763
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.840
and they'll find out the worn out spots on their

764
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.679
face are all in the same place. That just it's

765
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.599
not it's not the sweet spot of the club.

766
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:11.960
Before and more towards the toe.

767
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.199
You don't get too many people missing it towards the heel,

768
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.559
and on a driver, it's usually high and outside on

769
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.119
the toe because they're steep. They're coming steep and they're

770
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.159
coming to the club. The club is working at the

771
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.559
top of their golf For most people, the club works

772
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.960
away from their body and then across their body through

773
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.760
the ball, which then produces sort of.

774
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.480
A chicken wing type effect. Right.

775
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.159
So for better players, from the top of the back swing,

776
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.280
they have a little bit more depth in so the

777
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.239
club can work down and out in front of them,

778
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.320
and so the club is now working into their body

779
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.440
and away from their body, which is so it works.

780
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.639
It works sort of into their body coming down and

781
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.239
then away from their body through the ball, where the

782
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.760
opposite is true for the inefficient player. It's more away

783
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.760
from the body and then into the body through the ball.

784
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.760
And so and then what also happens too, They don't

785
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.360
get enough weight forward and they don't get the weight,

786
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:03.360
the proper weight forward.

787
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.679
They don't get the.

788
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.280
They don't get the So every good player and you

789
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:07.639
can see it.

790
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:08.360
It's classic.

791
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.199
It's almost classic for other sports too. But if if

792
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:12.679
you want to throw a baseball, if you want to

793
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.199
throw a football, and the spine leans away from the target,

794
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.440
the leg and pelvis starts to lean to the target.

795
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.280
So legs are leaning towards the target on the downswing

796
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.320
and the spine is leaning away from the target, and

797
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.760
that creates leverage in the golf swing and that allows

798
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.519
when you get that pelvis area forward through through impact,

799
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:36.719
that allows the low spot of the arc to be

800
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.199
in front of the ball. Without it, it just doesn't happen. Interesting,

801
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.719
So it's like the kind of the comment might be, well,

802
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.960
I'm hitting off my back foot, Yeah, yeah, you are,

803
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.719
you know, right, And and that's what people kind of do.

804
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.320
And when when you find a person that's consistently getting

805
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:52.960
the low point of his arc in front of the ball,

806
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.280
his dispersion patterns will become much tighter. Okay, so we

807
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.639
like with the launchmutter. Now with my focope, I can,

808
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.639
I can look at this. So I do a lot

809
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.960
of tracking of golf shots now with my students, and

810
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.360
we start looking at dispersion patterns. I recently had a

811
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.440
player and I wish I don't. I don't know how

812
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:10.199
he did in the match.

813
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:10.480
Play this week.

814
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.880
He's playing in the San Francisco Seniors, and and we

815
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.440
just we detected that, you know, just nothing that technical,

816
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.599
but his all his all his shot patterns with his

817
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:26.039
wedges between short wedges were short and left and and

818
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:29.639
it was a little bit of a club face alignment

819
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.920
and ball placement and just intent of what he needed

820
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.280
to do. So a little correction of his stance and

821
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.880
a little correction of ball placement, we were able to

822
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.159
get his lower his web shots more online and he

823
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.239
qualified like in the top five, I think. And he's

824
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.159
won his first two matches in this week, and I don't.

825
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:48.559
Know how he did yet. So I've been com busy.

826
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:49.119
I haven't checked.

827
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.280
But that's just because I was able to see the

828
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.280
dispersion ratio, and we were able to we his dibbot

829
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.360
was a little bit behind the ball, and we were

830
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:58.840
able to buy ball placement, were real to get the

831
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.719
dibbot a little bit further forward and by moving the

832
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.519
ball around create a better, more solid impact, and he

833
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.519
was able to get more control over his shots and

834
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.280
a little bit more consistency out of that.

835
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.079
Interesting, that makes sense.

836
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.119
Sure, but this is a guy who wants to compete,

837
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.199
and he is competing. Yeah, I mean, but what about

838
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.280
the I mean when you when you have your normal

839
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.159
students right who are just out there because they want

840
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.679
they want more consistently, they want more existence, but they're

841
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:27.920
not going to work on it that much because they

842
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.000
have enough time to play golf once a week.

843
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.280
You have a couple, you have a couple options you have.

844
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.079
You can do a reality check and go to your

845
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.840
golf pro like me, and find out how far you

846
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.159
actually hit it and what your pattern actually is, and

847
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.480
then act like a real competitor and to know thyself

848
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:52.199
as divine, admit your weaknesses and play to them or

849
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.000
around him.

850
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:54.079
It's that simple.

851
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.280
And then once you do that, you buy equipment that

852
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.519
can maybe with somebody that really knows what they're doing

853
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.679
can less soften those weaknesses.

854
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:05.840
And you're talking about getting fitted for your class.

855
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.800
Yeah, yeah, just don't change the swing.

856
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.280
Just just change, you know, adapt the swing with with

857
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:12.039
with the equipment.

858
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.000
So it's going to be a lot harder to change

859
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.360
your swing if you're not going to be that dedicated

860
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:16.960
to it anyway.

861
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.440
Yeah, and you know, swings don't change. And this is

862
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.239
me as a behaviorist again, and less intention changes and

863
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.880
intention precedes all activity. So unless you have a clear

864
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:31.000
knowledge of what you're trying to do, and your intention

865
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.679
is to do what you're trying to do, which is

866
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:37.039
the correct thing, then the pattern's not going to change.

867
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.960
So most people have no idea what they were supposed

868
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.079
to do with a golf club. They think they're supposed

869
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.239
to hit the ball. And there's not a golf prone

870
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:45.880
in the world that thinks about hitting a golf ball.

871
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:47.920
Keep going.

872
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:56.800
Well, they just don't think about they think about where

873
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.840
they're all to go. Yeah, the targets first, the golf

874
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.559
ball is not the target. Ball is not the target, right.

875
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:07.000
So we have in so I get my students maybe

876
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.159
to throw a rope, I have I have them thrown

877
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.559
ropes like short ropes, thick ropes at the target, and

878
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.679
nine of them will throw it thirty yards left of

879
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.880
the target right away. You know, I have PVC pipes

880
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.559
that I haven't there. You can even throw your own clubs.

881
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.239
I take them out of the fairway and have them

882
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.880
start throwing the car Yeah, okay, yeah. And so their

883
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.360
intention is to swing the club at the target. And

884
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.039
unless that's part of the process, then then you're you're

885
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:32.159
gonna have You're gonna struggle.

886
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:32.440
You will.

887
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.599
And because there's only two things involved in hitting the

888
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.800
golf ball, basically from from a technical standpoint, one is

889
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.480
geometry and the other one's physics. Geometry has to do

890
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.039
with direction, and physics has to do with the leverage

891
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.320
and distance. So if you're swinging a club or a

892
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.320
rope properly and you throw it properly out at the target,

893
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.039
then you're accomplishing both the geometry and the physics in

894
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.400
that moment. And that creates and the only way you

895
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.280
can do that is to have your legs leaning towards

896
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.719
the target, You're spine leaning away and you and you

897
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.599
make and the low point of the arc. I can

898
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.639
show you. I take people who would normally hit it

899
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:05.760
fat have them swing a rope and they look like

900
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.400
Ben Hogan and they've never played golf before. Literally they

901
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.440
look like they have so much leverage coming into the ball.

902
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:16.079
It's like, Holy smokes, and what happened. One thing we've

903
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.280
done is we've eliminated the golf ball because the golf

904
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:22.079
ball gets in the way of the target for everybody, right, So,

905
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.079
and when we start doing that, think people get people

906
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.440
get better. But the intention is is what's my intention?

907
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.119
What's my relationship to the target?

908
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:31.920
Right?

909
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.480
And so the better my relationship with the target is

910
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.119
higher quality of golf shots I tend to hit for everybody.

911
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:42.800
So it's a target oriented game. It's not a swing

912
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.480
oriented game. It's not a technical you know, it really isn't.

913
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.800
At the highest at the simplest level, it's that way,

914
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.840
and surprisingly the better you play at the highest level,

915
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.800
it's sort of that way too.

916
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.119
I mean, you have some you have some things that you.

917
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.639
Can draw upon as a as an experienced player, that

918
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.760
you might be able to fix in a round of golf.

919
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.119
But usually it's the simple stuff. It's breathing, it's a

920
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.480
little more relaxation, it's getting rid of the noise.

921
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.599
Right, use your head everywhere, right.

922
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.559
It's that's the stuff, and it's it's just you know,

923
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:24.039
not making yourself the enemy, really, and that surprisingly. I mean,

924
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:25.599
I used to have guys call me a lot before

925
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.360
tour school, and not so much and more they're getting older,

926
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.079
but but they'd call.

927
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:31.840
Me for about putting.

928
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.920
And you know, how do I because I've historically been

929
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.519
a pretty solid putter, and John, what do I need

930
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.000
to do? You know, inevitably it's like, well, you need

931
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:42.159
to stop trying to make pots.

932
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:43.840
What did you just say?

933
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:45.960
I said, you need to stop trying to make pots?

934
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:48.639
What do you mean that's why I'm calling you need

935
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.960
to make more pods? I said, well, stop, I go.

936
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.920
What do you mean? I said, your only object?

937
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.079
Your only job is to hit the ball, figure out

938
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.840
what the line is, hit it on that line with

939
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.920
the appropriate speed. You're not responsible for it going in.

940
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.360
So you can't you can't be forgetting it, can't.

941
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:07.760
Be making the putt while you're trying to hit it.

942
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:09.920
You have to be here, you have to be present.

943
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.440
And this is from a guy that has a panic disorder.

944
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.639
So I understand the biggest thing in the world is

945
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.960
being present, being accountable right here.

946
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:18.800
And I don't mean to laught you, but no, no, no,

947
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:19.199
it's true.

948
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:19.800
No, it's true.

949
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.519
So you know, uh, you know, golf has always been

950
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.320
my moment of zen, you know, because I can. I'm

951
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.480
much better with twenty thousand people, at least I used

952
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.440
to be with twenty thousand and ten thousand people watching

953
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.480
me than I am in a hotel room in Wichita

954
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:33.159
by myself.

955
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.960
You know. I mean, I'm having.

956
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:36.480
To read a book, I'm doing sit ups, I'm doing

957
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.840
push ups, I'm stretching, I'm doing whatever I'm reading, you know,

958
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:45.360
So being so I'm able to focus, you know, I can.

959
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.119
It was natural for me to take my situation on

960
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.519
it with a golf ball and make what's what needs

961
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.119
to be accountable right here, to make the whole objective

962
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.360
for most people to play better, whatever it is. And

963
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.000
I think, and I've played with athletes in all different

964
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.800
sports through my profession as a golfer. They come to

965
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.679
me in pro ams, and they're all drawn to golf

966
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.679
for some you know reason, And I think part of

967
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:13.199
the reason is is they realize it takes them back

968
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:17.760
to what I call the original sin, which is, you know,

969
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.000
there's a little there's this thing. There's this moment at

970
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.440
some point in their lives where they decided that if

971
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.000
they focused on this thing, it would captivate them for

972
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.760
a really long time. And they enjoyed that process. And

973
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.880
they see in golf that it's unless they give in

974
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:39.480
to it, that unless they immerse themselves in the moment

975
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.400
like they did with their other sport, which they probably

976
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:46.320
can't do full time anymore, aren't doing full time, that

977
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.239
they're able to kind of do this at golf again.

978
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:52.199
And they love that process. So guys that and women too,

979
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.760
and just guys, the ones that get better are able

980
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.800
to immerse themselves in that moment to moment process in

981
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.960
a round of golf or even in their practice, and

982
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.719
there is it is a sort of meditation. It's a

983
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.000
meditation of what's present right now for me to do.

984
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.840
And that's target oriented. That's not ball oriented, right, and

985
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.679
that's that's that's sort of like the fun process. And

986
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:19.400
we kind of lose track of that a little bit.

987
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:23.840
So you know, I say to my amateur golfers, beat

988
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.679
everybody hitting a bat. And my whole motto has always

989
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.440
been never let a bad golf swing get in the

990
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:29.519
way of a good round of golf.

991
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.880
Hmmm, right, I'm going to write that one down.

992
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.599
Right, So so you can't blame it on your swing,

993
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:38.679
because that's just placing the blame someplace else.

994
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.400
That's just passing it down. You know.

995
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:42.480
You get to sign the scorecard. No one, No, at

996
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.039
the end of the round, no one said I had

997
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:48.719
the best golf swing this week. No, you sign your name, right,

998
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.400
they don't sign you don't sign golf swing. Oh, my

999
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.320
golf swing won the tournament. No, I as a person.

1000
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:56.760
Won the tournament. Right.

1001
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.039
We think tiger Woods golf swing changed all that much?

1002
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.519
Now you think wedge games changed all that much physically?

1003
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:03.039
Probably not.

1004
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.239
His relationship to that club right now, to those clubs,

1005
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.519
to those shots has changed, but he mechanically it's probably

1006
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.559
not massively changed. So so there's the art, right, there's alchemy.

1007
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.760
How do I mixture that and how do I bring

1008
00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:20.800
that out of me to make it make it as

1009
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.280
good as I can? And that's where that's the fun,

1010
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.599
you know, And it's always has been that way. You know,

1011
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.840
the Scottish understood that in its infancy of the game.

1012
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.719
Amazing, All right, John, we've come outside now to the

1013
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.599
golf course that I live next to, and we're gonna

1014
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.559
do You're gonna do a little tip here on consistency.

1015
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.280
The number one thing you can do to improve your

1016
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.320
iron plate is make sure that the low point of

1017
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.320
your arc is in front of the ball. So one

1018
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.880
way to do this without practice, without using any golf balls,

1019
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.920
find a fair way bunker, make a lion in the sand.

1020
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:56.800
So what we're trying to do is to make sure

1021
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.360
our low point of our arc is in front of

1022
00:47:58.360 --> 00:47:58.719
the ball.

1023
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.400
We're gonna imagine this a line. Is the ball we're.

1024
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.559
Gonna set up, and we're going to make a golf swing,

1025
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.440
and the low point of our arc should be slightly

1026
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:08.239
in front of that sand.

1027
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:09.000
Let me do it again.

1028
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.239
Now, the opposite of that would be this, See here

1029
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.719
are my line here. The opposite would be which most

1030
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.519
of my amateur students do is they hit behind the ball.

1031
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.920
What we're trying to do is to make sure that

1032
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:27.280
you hit in front of the ball. Let me show

1033
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.400
you that one more time. If this is my line

1034
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.239
right here, I went the club. The low point of

1035
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.639
my arc to be up over there, right, so I'd

1036
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:38.159
hit the ball first, And now I found the low

1037
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:39.239
point in front of the ball.

1038
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:42.119
Let me do it again.

1039
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:46.679
If you can get the low point of your arc

1040
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.280
in front of the ball, your shots will go straighter

1041
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:50.920
and farther