March 20, 2026

A Good Golfer’s Arms Never Pass The Body with Tony Manzoni (RIP)

A Good Golfer’s Arms Never Pass The Body with Tony Manzoni (RIP)
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GS#409 November 5, 2013 - Topping the ball? Did someone say you lifted your head? Tony Manzoni gets pretty fired up about these misconceptions that many golfers have about those consistently frustrating errors like throwing the hands away from the body, bringing the club straight back, or rotating the body too quickly. In this Members Only episode, Tony explains why they occur and what to look for in a teacher who understands the mechanics of a swing. Tony’s book "The Lost Fundamental: One Simple Move, Better Golf Forever", is available on Amazon in paperback or Kindle format. His video, originally a DVD, is only available through our website. 

If you have a question about whether or not Fred is using any of the methods, equipment or apps we’ve discussed, or if you’d like to share a comment about what you’ve heard in this or any other episode, please write because Fred will get back to you. Either write to golfsmarterpodcast@gmail.com or click on the Hey Fred button, at golfsmarter.com

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Hey, this is Fredgreen of golf Smarter with our sixth

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installment of spring Back into Golf Season with the late

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Tony Manzoni. This episode was part two of our conversation

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originally number four hundred and nine for members only from

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November twenty thirteen. His book The Loss Fundamental is available

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on Amazon, and his DVD, which we converted to a

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private link online, is also available when you write to me.

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For the most comprehensive information ever collected on Tony, please

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go to golfsmarter dot com and if you'd like access

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For members only. Golf Smarter number four hundred and nine,

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published on November five, twenty thirteen. A good Golfer's Arms

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never passed the Body with Tony Manzoni. This is golf Smarter.

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Welcome back to golf Smarter for members only.

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Tony.

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Thank you, Fred, Thank you again for sticking around and

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recording forget the recording, for sticking around and answering more

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of my questions.

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I just love it. Fred.

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Oh, that's very kind of you. There's many things that

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you said in our last conversation that I want to

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bring back and get more detail from you out of that.

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Like when you talked about being under pressure and hooking

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the ball. You said, when you were playing competitively when

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you were young, whenever you were under pressure, you would

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hook the ball. Now forty to fifty years later and

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you look back on that, do you know what that was?

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Sure? I know what it was. As I got into

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learning to be more of a connected rotating or having

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a connected rotating swing, I realized that the moving of

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the of the left arm the right arm for that matter,

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but to the left round when you go back in

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the back swing, no matter how you take it back

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to your left round goes somewhat across your chest, okay, and

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it connects somewhere near the left arm pit and the

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right arm pit. So that's why you see a lot

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of tour players will put a towel across their chest

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and then put their arms on the top of the

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toe and hit shots that way. What they're doing, you know,

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it's it's restrictive in a way, but they're teaching themselves

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that the body moves the arms, the arms will move

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off the body and then back on the body. It's

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not to say that you can't do that, and there

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have been some good players that did that, but I

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don't think they had very long careers. Without naming a

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lot of guys, there's a lot of guys on the

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senior tour now that can't play a lit that were

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champions on the regular tour, and it's because their game

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was based on disconnecting and connecting, swaying to the right

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and swaying to the left and so forth. But in

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my swing, what I realize is that when my arms

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get to impact before my left side is clear, then

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my because the head is hairier than the handle. If

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you swing the arms away from the body and just

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swing a golf club, you'll see that the club head

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turns over prior to impact because because of the weight,

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the weight of the handle way to the head. The

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head weight will roll the clubhead. So these people that

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try to teach people to roll the clubhead, if you

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just swing your arms ahead of your body, it's gonna roll.

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If I want to hook a ball around a corner,

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I just keep my back of the target and throw

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my arm forward and that clubcase is closed. A foot

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from the ball, so I'm gonna I'm gonna snipe of it. Okay,

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well that's what I did under pressure, because under pressure

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we all get a little fast on the down. Can't

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help it. And I didn't realize that the faster my

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arms went, the slower my body went. So they didn't

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correspond and they won't. You throw your arms ahead of

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your body, and there's a saying the good golfer's arms

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never passed the body, never passed the body. And you say,

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wait a minute, I see the club, but it's not

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because if you follow the turning of the bottom, the

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club is standing in front of the body, but it's

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not going past it. So this is how it works,

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real simple. You stand up to the ball. I like

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you to set up sixty forty. You take the club back.

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It goes across your chest and it connects somewhere high

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on the left tectoral muscle. Okay, when you get to

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the top, instead of letting the arms come free of

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the body and pulling the arms down, keep the position

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that you have at the top and rotate your chest area.

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And now I'm not gonna say hips, because if you're

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on that left side, you don't have to throw your

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legs first or any of that craziness. Unwind which wound up.

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Unwind your chest and shoulders around your pivot leg, pulling

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your arm through, and if you'll unwind properly, you'll be

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unwinding to the left, just like on the backswing you

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had to unwind to the right. So when you unwind,

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your body's going to turn to the left. So when

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you finish your golf swing, your right shoulder should pointing

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at the target. The center of your chest should be

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pointing quite a bit left of the target. And if

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you watch the tour ladies or men's you'll see that

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that's how most of the players are finishing. No one's

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jilted back with high hands. Everything is around because players

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are finding that's a more effective way to play. So

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when we're connected, and and I mentioned that at the

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right arm, sure, because the right arm can't come loose

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and go out away from the body on the downswing

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because the elbow will be out of position. So that

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closed armpit of the right side is just as important

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as a closed armpit on the left side. So with

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both of them closed, the right with the right arm

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does in the backswing is you turn the right arm

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folds to a position and that's and that's your position.

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But that's how you get the club back. You don't

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do it with your wrist cock. You do the arm fold, okay,

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and it sets the wrist so that the club head

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or the chef, the shaft in your left arm four

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form kind of an l position. Okay, we want to

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be position. That's too much risk. We want this elow

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position the club. Your back is to the target. The

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club looks three quarters and if you look at the

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tour today, you'll see most everybody like that. You don't

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see that past parallel look except for a few out there.

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And they have one commonality. They get wild with the driver.

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They don't know if it's going right or left under pressure. Okay,

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the ones that are compact, they're popping it in the

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center all the time. Louis lusehavn just a bunch of

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them that are rotators. But anyway, so we're at the

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top of the swing. The left arm is connected high

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in the pectoral the right arm you can be holding

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a handkerchief under the armpit. The elbow is not touching

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the bout it just the armpit is closed. You just

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take that and you rotate to the left around the

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pivot leg, which is your left leg if you're right handed,

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and you just keep rotating and the club comes last.

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And it's kind of like a hockey player. That the

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action of a hockey player with a stick to a puck.

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It's a one piece action. It's not a throw of

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the arms, is a rotation of the body. On my video,

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you can see that little exercise I do that makes

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you instantly feel this. And if there's any one thing

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that you must do, it's fats. And you know, Ben

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Hogan said, you take all your natural instincts and do

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the opposite, you'll have a pretty good golf swing. And

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he's absolutely right, because when the ball is down on

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the ground and we've got the club in our hands,

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the tendency for us is to hit down on that

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golf ball to throw those arms. And we've been told

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hit down on the ball. If you have the club,

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let's say a shoal or heighth, and you swing it

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to the other side, the club has to come down

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to go up, so there's no need to try to

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hit down because all you're going to do is you're

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going to great tension, and you're going and you're going

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to get steeper than you should. The swing has a

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shape to it. It's it's kind of a U shape,

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so there is a bottom to it, but you don't

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need to do anything to get there. It has to

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get there for it to go back up on the

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other side. So I never advocate hitting down on a

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golf ball because then you're thinking about impact too much.

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And then what we get into anticipating impact, which causes

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a tension. And that's why all the beginners. You see

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beginners top the ball and the guy says, you looked up, okay,

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And then you got their faces glued to the ground

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and glued to the ball, and they still top it

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that you looked up. That's such a bunch of beloging.

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It's just you tighten up. And so when you anticipate impact,

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you're grabbing that handle tighter, you're getting ready to hit something. Okay.

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That shortens the muscle, pulls the club to the to

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the center or top of the ball, and you roll

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it on the ground. So when we're playing golf, and

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as I teach all my students, I'm teaching you where

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your body is a relationship with that golf ball on

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the back swinging on the through swing, and that body

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has to be on the ball on the coil, and

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then the whole right side goes past the ball on

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the through swing and the ball is in the way

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of that action. If you focus on that back of

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that ball or hit down on that ball, try to

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keep your head down on that ball. You don't hit

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a lot of shots behind the ball because when we start,

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when we put that golf club behind the ball, if

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we bring it right back that spot, we're going to

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go divot ball, and we don't want to do that.

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We want to go ball divt. So there has to

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be a forward and is somewhere in that motion to

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hit the ball first and then take the divot. That's

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the through motion. So when for all of you out

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there that hit the ball thin or hit behind it,

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that's because you are behind it. You're not supposed to

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be behind it when you hit it. It's supposed to

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be moving through it. You're supposed to be on the

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left side. So don't buy into that crap here all

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the time. Stay behind it, keep your head back behind it.

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That's nuts. There's no sport that you do that you

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hit a tennis ball, you move forward. You throw a punch,

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you move forward. You throw a baseball, you move forward.

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You got to move forward. You got to move through

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it with a Now I'm not saying that your heads

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go way forward, but that's not the golf sing. If

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you rotate past that golf ball, that club has come

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and last, and it's going to hit the ball with

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all the force of your core. When you try to

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stay behind the ball, all you're using assuming your arms

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forward of your body, which is the worst thing you

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can do if you're going to try to not only

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hit it far, but hit it straight.

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The golf swing is supposedly a circular like if you draw,

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If you follow the club head around, it's a circle

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correct around your body.

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It's a rotational it's a rotational move. That's the only

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way that our body moves. When you walk, you rotates,

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so it's a rotation live in. Rotation doesn't mean straight

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back and straight through. That's why when people say take

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the club straight back, you know that's really not that's

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really not correct. Because the body's turning, the club has

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to stay in front of you relative to where the

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body is, So when the body's turning if the club's

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in front of you, but it'll be inside the line

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of the It'll be inside the ball line. Is it

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must be. You can't take the club back on the

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ball line and swing it down the ball line. And

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I hear that all the time. Oh yeah, you kept

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that club going right down the ball, lie Boloni. You

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can't do that. The club the toll has to be

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turning because you're turning. Okay, you got to trap that

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golf ball. The more you push that club down the line,

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than what's going to happen just out of the construction

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of the club the neck, because that's where the shaft is.

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The neck is going to lead that club and the

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toad is going to be back and you're going to

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hit everything right, you know, or slice the ball, and

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the blade's going to open up. The more you push

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it straight back at the target, the more the blade

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is can open up. That club has to come back.

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You know. The path of the swing is from square,

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It goes inside, back to square, back to inside. So

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that's the shape of the golf swing, and that's that's

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what your body is doing. It's like a hub and

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a spoke. Your body is rotating and the club is

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rotating relative to what your body's doing. That's why good

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players connect the arms of the body, and the arms

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move where the body takes them. They're not trying to

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take the club back and put it in a position

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because it's then it becomes disconnected to the body and

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then they've got to re rout the arms back to

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where the elbow hits that inside of the hip area

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to hit the golf ball. Oh well, that can do

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that on a consistent basis. Am I making you crazy? Yeah?

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Absolutely?

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Am I making you crazy? Uh?

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Yeah, absolutely. There's so much going on right now in

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my head. It's like there's.

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If I if you were in front of me and

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I set you up and you had some idea of

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the golf thing you've been playing a while, Okay, but

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you know I slice everything, all right, okay everything or whatever.

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I show you that when your arms go three of

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the body on the downs and the club is either

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going to roll over or you're going to hang on

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to it and it's going to stay open. And that's

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why you can get up and hook one ball and

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then you guard the next one and.

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You pull it. Yeah. So when when you're when you're

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addressing the ball, and you're you're setting up with the

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ball with the club face. You're look, you're staring at

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the ball. Your club face is sitting just behind it

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when you're coming So, but when you come through on

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your swing, that is not the base of your swing, right,

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that's the base of it would be in front of

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the ball, right, the bottom part of yours, the bottom

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part of the swing would be. You know, when you're

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falling through, because you want to hit the ball and

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then hit the ground. Do you want to make the

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divot after you hit the ball.

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Yes, Well, it's that turning through impact that brings the

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club so that the ball is being struck on the

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down swing, so it hits the ball, hits the turf

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when you're in the proper position, just prior to impact. Okay,

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the club is coming down, it strikes the ball, and

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it takes a little bit of divot when you get

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behind the ball, when you have too much weight on

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the right side. It is trying to hit the golf ball.

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You're going to come down in behind the ball. You're

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going to bring the club kinda where you have it

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to start with, so you're going to go div it ball.

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And that's how most people hit it. They take real

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deep dits, and even when they hit a good shot,

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they still hit them a little flabby because they're in

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the wrong position. They're behind the golf ball. If you

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look at a picture at impact of a good player,

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you'll see that his chest area is not in the

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same position he was at a dress. Like some people

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try to say, get back to the dress. His left

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side is open, it's turned to open, okay, and the

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right side is now driving past the golf ball. If

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you look at it you want to see a great swing,

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Look at anakis or instant. That girl had more birdies

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of two and three inches because she hit is so

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dead at the hole because she was turning towards the

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target and that arms were being pulled, so she was

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trapping that club dead square. So she unwolmed properly. The

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ball went right where she unwelmed to. And that's what

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we're looking for to learn to hit the ball without

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a lot of side spin. Now, when I want to

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cut it or draw it, I do it by memory.

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I just set up to the ball and feel like

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I'm going to do it. But there is a process

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of doing it that I practiced for a lot of

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hours as a young man, but I primarily hit the

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ball with very little movement on it, especially with my irons.

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Because of this action, I could remain in the past.

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To hit it near the pin, I had to aim

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at a club or two to the right of the

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of the green and draw it in. I don't do

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that anymore. I can. I can got pin hunting because

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of this action. I know. I'm not gonna put very

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much side spin on the ball. Side's beIN comes from

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the club face closing and opening and impact. That's all

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it is. I mean, it's not a big secret. So

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when you swing a free arm swing, that club is

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going to roll. I mean, anybody that's listening to me,

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you know, I'll just take a golf club out and

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swing it with your arms a little bit away from you,

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and you see that the weight of the club will

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turn the club over, and it's going to turn it

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over generally before you hit the golf ball. And then

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the next time, because you're scared of death that's gonna happen,

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you're gonna hang on to it tight, so you're gonna

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hold the blade open. So neither one of them are

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any good. You can't come off. So you've got to

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have a golf swing that if it's it's tight as

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heck and you got trouble right and trouble left, that

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you can get up there and free swinging and know

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absolutely no that you're not going to touch either bad area,

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that you're going to carve it into the into the

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free into the fairway one way or another. You're gonna

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power slice it or a soft draw, but you're gonna

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put it in the fairway. And I can still do that.

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I just can't, you know, I just can't hit it

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far enough to really really compete. If they put me

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up on that Ladies teas or or old iyed teas,

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I'll play with anybody.

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You just told me in the last episode that you're

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hitting the ball to sixty five on your drives.

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What do you mean, Yeah, that's short compared to what

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people hit it now.

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I mean, I'm well, yeah, yeah, if you're playing.

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With l they played blue cheese, I play white cheese,

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and so I'm I'm at least a little bit up

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with them, or sometimes it will past them with the drive.

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You know, when I created the Mixed Team Championship that

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was on television for what sixty years. What we did

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is we we figured out what women would need. Professional

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women would need to compete against men. They need seventy

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five yards because they not only needed distance on the drive,

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but they needed on the second shot so that they

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could hit into a par four a drive in seven

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or eight iron, because most men are hitting those kind

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of clubs. Prior to that, Prior to that, the gals

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were playing the club. The course is so long that

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no one was reaching par fives and two, and they

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were hitting long irons into par fours. And when we

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came up with this concept, this is many many years ago,

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that tournament kind of changed the way the girls perceived

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the golf course should be because a hard liner said, no, no,

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you're making it too easy. And I said, look, men

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are shooting nineteen or twenty hunder par every tournament the

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winners are, and you're shooting six and seven. The perception

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then from the general public is, well, you're not playing

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as good because you're shooting higher scores, but you're playing

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a lot tougher golf course. You know, they were set

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up like it was like setting up a men's golf

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course of seventy eight hundred yards that's the kind of

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golf the women playing it for a long time, and

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we changed that. But we found that the average guy

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off that pops the ball out there, they need about

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seventy five yards and then then they can compete. Well,

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that's the same by going up. You know when I

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go up on a tee, you know, I go up

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about thirty yards. Well that makes it that that has

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thirty yards of my t shirt. Now I'm in the

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game now. So in the history, we don't play. We

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don't play championship teas. You play to have a.

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Good time, right, you play the white teas, and it's

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like so proud, Yeah, I'm proud to play up.

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I mean, I love it. If some sometimes I play

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with clients, they say, well, look we're going to play

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the senior teas. I love it, can't can't wait. You know,

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I don't have any ego about that. Good for you,

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because I know what my limitations are. But if you

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put me one hundred and fifty yards from the green

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every very hole, I'm going to make a lot of birdies.

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M In the history of golf, are are different sets

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of tea is a relatively new thing.

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No, no, no, They're always most golf courses have ladies.

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He's the men's ties, but most golf course now they're

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in a lot. I've been on a lot of golf

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courses where the ladies seas were twenty yards further than

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the men's that's just that's a joke, to be honest

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with you. They should be pretty close to one hundred

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yards on every single hole for the ladies to enjoy

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the game like men. Do you see gals out there

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with a driver on a par three? Well, you you

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put guys, you make the par three long enough before

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they have to get drivers. You wouldn't see very many pars, okay,

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even at the big boys. So so, I mean, it's

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just that it becomes an oversight when people design golf courses.

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They design them for the men, and they don't consider

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the cows. They put okay, put the red teas here,

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but they don't do it. They don't do it mathematically

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based on how far the most of the gals hit it.

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So you know, when the gals shoot break one hundred,

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they go crazy, they pop the champagne and give everybody

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a pin. That's a joke. If you put them in

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the right place, they're going to be shooting in the

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eighties and the good ones will get in the seventies.

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Well, when you say that the courses are being when

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you say the courses are being designed for man, I

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think that the courses is being designed for PGA Tour

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events because they're just making their courses longer and longer

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and longer, which is playing into their hands of these

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guys who have who can hit the ball in mine

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own half and they don't.

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Have the there's a perception, and it happens at our

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own valley where they'll they'll build what they call the

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championship feet and they'll put them back in the corner

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where they you know, the desire didn't even want them

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to be okay, because they think that by doing that

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they're going to bring more members in. But typically these clubs,

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the membership is three hundred thousand. Well, how many young

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people do you know that will plunk down three hundred

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thousand dollars to join a club. So it's usually older,

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successful people that don't hit it very far. So they

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make these teas so that they can so that they

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can say, well, ours is a seventy three hundred or

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seventy four hundred rated course. Blah blah blah. Meaningless doesn't

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mean a thing because nobody plays them right, you know,

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and it makes the game slow. And you get these

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you get these guys that are eighteen handicaps going back

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there and they and they ruin the game for the

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people behind them. I don't I'm not advocating that we

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put the teas up where you're on the fringe of

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the green team off, but you've got to you've got

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to put you know, we know there's a mean average

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of what your membership hits the ball. We know what

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they hit it, and that's whe the golf course should

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be played from and for ladies, you know, come on,

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how many gals hit it on? How many gals hit

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it one hundred and seventy five yards? Okay, so you

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can't put them on a three hundred and seventy yard

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hole or a four hundred yard hole. That's crazy. I mean,

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they're they're beating a three wood on a third shot.

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You know what kind of fun is that. That's why

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I say I'm I'm very sensitive to dec issue because

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I've worked with a lot of lady professionals in my

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life and I've given them zillion lessons to gals and

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the big majority. I mean that you know, eighty percent,

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you know, can't hit it two hundred yards can't. Okay,

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So now they get on a golf poole that's three ninety,

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you know, I mean if they get on in two

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it's you know, they might have a heart attack. They

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shouldn't be that way. They should be if they hit

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their good drive, they should have some kind of an

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iron or a rescue club to hit, but some kind

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of an iron. It's just it's it's unfairly set up.

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And again, I think it's the responsibility of a golf

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course and the management to understand these things and then

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sit down and come up with an idea. Okay, what

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do we think our gals hit the ball? And then

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00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.599
plot out a hole so that they can hit some

468
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:46.440
kind of a mid iron into that green, and that's

469
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.799
what the t should be, okay, And then you'd see

470
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.119
that the galls have a lot more fun and the

471
00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.680
game is more playable for them if you look at

472
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:58.920
the scores. I mean, you know, I give lessons and a

473
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.240
lot of clubs. They invite me to teach, and I

474
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.400
every now and then there's a tournament one hundred and

475
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.640
twenty one hundred and fifteen hundred and ten. Every now

476
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:07.720
and then you get somebody in the nineties, and that's

477
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.759
the that's the field. And these are girls have been

478
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:13.240
playing a long time, you know, because they're older. Yeah,

479
00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:15.440
you get the you know, the young members twenty one

480
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.960
or twenty two or twenty three that married some guy. Well,

481
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.720
some of those guys can play, they're fresh out of

482
00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:21.599
college and they can pop the ball. But most of

483
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.279
the girls are in the fifties and the sixties. Where

484
00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.920
are they going to get the golf ball? You know?

485
00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:26.680
And a lot of them, a lot of them were

486
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.240
taught at that age because their husband played golf and

487
00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.079
they were, come on, you got to learn, we'll play

488
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:32.759
golf together, that kind of stuff.

489
00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:41.519
Do you have the same frustrations that I have when

490
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.559
you go out and play with people, and they especially

491
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.119
and of course they've not played to go, well, what's

492
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.960
the distance let's play from this team got sixty nine?

493
00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.440
They want into yards and they don't look at the

494
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:50.240
rating slope.

495
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.240
Yeah, exactly, I know that a lot of courses, even

496
00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.799
the men's let's just say the white cheese because they

497
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.119
have so many different colors now. But let's say the

498
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.319
back is the blue cheese, in the middle is the

499
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.440
white tees. A lot of times the white tees are

500
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.599
you know, ten yards ahead of the blue cheese, which

501
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:14.720
is crazy, it's ludicrous. But again there's no thinking done

502
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.400
at the start of every day when those tees are set.

503
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:21.240
Someone should be setting them based on what the club professional.

504
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.640
You know that he set that golf course up for

505
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:27.200
the superintendent. You can't expect the superintendent and in most

506
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.200
cases do not play the game. And the superintendent's not

507
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.279
setting the teases his workers who probably don't play the game.

508
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.880
So they just cut it down and put the team

509
00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.519
markers there with no thought that somebody's got to play

510
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.599
from here. So the golf course, the golf course plays

511
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.359
way beyond the slope, rating the way harder right, right,

512
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.559
And that's that's you know, we talk about slow play.

513
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.640
That's one of the reasons we have slow play because

514
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.279
with the long iron on their third shot, right, it

515
00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:58.359
has nothing to do with their ability. It has to

516
00:24:58.400 --> 00:24:59.759
do that it's too long.

517
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.400
Yeah, people are playing from the wrong tees, their egos

518
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.839
getting the way, they slow down the pace of play.

519
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.640
They're scoring high numbers when they shouldn't be. It's just

520
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.880
it's just this endless cycle of garbage.

521
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.039
There, right, and it's rooting the game for a lot

522
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.720
of people, and it's costing. It's costing a lot of

523
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:19.519
money because you know, if you have a lot of

524
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.400
slow play, you can't get players on the golf course.

525
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.720
But a lot of it goes back to management and

526
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.599
the planning of where those teas should be. There has

527
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:31.680
to be calculations made based on where you think the

528
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.480
majority of people hit the golf ball so that they

529
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.640
can enjoy this sport. You know, when you're a successful

530
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.319
man and you've worked all your life, you don't want

531
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:41.920
to play golf. That's beating the heck out of you

532
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.000
all the time, and you're never going to say this

533
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.920
is too hard for me. No one wants to do that,

534
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.839
you know, no one wants to admit to that. So

535
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.559
what management has to has to do is put them

536
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.880
put that make that golf course not a sense of easy,

537
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:01.039
but fair, not fair. If you can't reach a part

538
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.480
four and two, if you can hit the ball, let's

539
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.319
say two hundred and ten yards, you should be able

540
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.000
to You should be able to hit that green in

541
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.680
two Okay, So you can't. You can't put a high

542
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.759
handicap around a four hundred and seventy yard hole or

543
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:16.640
four hundred and sixty year old. That's a part five

544
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:20.279
for them. And that's how. And that doesn't take away

545
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.240
from the golf course being a great course, because the

546
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.160
greatness comes in the design. It doesn't come in the length.

547
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.640
Right right, because a short course, a short course can

548
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.119
be very punishing.

549
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.759
Yeah, I mean, you know, I've played course that were

550
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.799
sixty six hundred yards long. They'll give you a battle

551
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.359
every time you play it. But it's it's because you

552
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.000
have to be accurate, you have to hit the left,

553
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:44.920
left the right, or right the left and those kinds

554
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.359
of things. But it's not because you can't reach the green.

555
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.680
I mean, that's just stupid golf. To me. That's stupid golf.

556
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.599
It really is. And unfortunately, there's so much emphasis on

557
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.880
distance today in today's world that you know, I get

558
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.319
these kids at young ages and they're all they're all

559
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.039
swinging out of their shoes, and I say, what are

560
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.119
you going to do when you're playing a twenty yard fairway?

561
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:09.880
I mean, you're done. So that's part and parcel of

562
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:15.000
the problem. We're exposed to everybody hits at three thirty three,

563
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.559
forty and some guy out there fifty years old, you know,

564
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.200
you feel impotent, for God's sakes, But it's it's because

565
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.720
we've been we've been sol a bill of goods. And

566
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.680
the game is never intended to be a driving contest,

567
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.640
you know, it really wasn't. It's a game of strategy.

568
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:36.079
It's a game of ball placement. And to me, I

569
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.599
think they're ruining the game by making the courses longer

570
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.240
and longer and longer. For who, I mean for who?

571
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:43.839
Who?

572
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.279
Who can seventy three one hundred yards is a long

573
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.599
golf course? Who plays it? Yeah? Maybe a kid that

574
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.000
beats it out there, but the average guy, man, I mean,

575
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.799
you know you can't if you can't get home into

576
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.799
what the heck? You know, time and time again, sometimes

577
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:03.519
you know there will be one of those holes out

578
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.799
there that you say, oh, well this one, I just

579
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.400
got to be hope, be happy with a bogie. But

580
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.960
you can't do that for eighteen holes. Right.

581
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.960
A question about and now I know the obvious answer

582
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.039
as well, because the club is longer, but is do

583
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.400
you should you have a different swing? And that's a

584
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.519
loaded question. With your driver versus your nine iron.

585
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.839
No, it's going to be it's gonna be flatter because

586
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.799
the ball is farther away from you. But no, conceptually

587
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:40.599
and feel wise, no. And the difficult part is tempo

588
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.480
because we want to swing the driver faster than we

589
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.160
do a full swing, let's say with an eight iron,

590
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.000
and it shouldn't be it will the club will be

591
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.920
moving faster because the swing is wider, because the club

592
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.440
is longer, and the distance is going to be derived

593
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.920
by that longer lever. But you don't try to swing harder.

594
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:58.720
I mean, one of the great things I ever heard

595
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.440
was Trevino was saying that, you know, he's the one

596
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.039
I played with Nicholas. He was so long. I didn't

597
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.440
watch him hit it. And he said, I used to

598
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.519
try to hit it two thirty eight, and I would

599
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.680
hit it two seventy, but when I tried to hit

600
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.519
it two seventy, I hit it two thirty eight, which

601
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.599
I just thought, said, man, that that should be in

602
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.440
the Bible, for God's sakes. I mean, it was so

603
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.200
absolutely correct, because when you attempt to try to hit

604
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.960
the ball harder, your swing gets faster in the backswing,

605
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.720
shorter in the backswing and tighter at impact. That's why

606
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:25.279
a lot of times, you know, we have a shot

607
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.680
and we think, ah, that's a six arm, but I'm

608
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.440
going to hit an easy five iron, and we fly

609
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.960
the green. We say, what the heck I hit that?

610
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:35.079
I've hit that fire iron way farther than because you

611
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.160
relax and you let yourself get that club all the

612
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.279
way back and all the way through because you weren't

613
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.680
trying to hit it. You just want he swung the club.

614
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.000
You know. There's a lot to that, you know, And

615
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.480
and unfortunately we get that driver and I hand. All

616
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.799
of a sudden, you see their jaws tightening up. And

617
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.880
that's not it wasn't intended that. What I tell my boys,

618
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.200
the driver is a placement club, not a distance club.

619
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.119
It's a place. It's a club to place the ball

620
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.160
on the fairway where you've got a good angle to

621
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.279
the green. That's all it is. Don't buy into you've

622
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.680
got to hit a three fifty or three forty or

623
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.799
three thirty or any of those numbers. Let that happen. Fine.

624
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.599
If you can do that, fine, but you don't try

625
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.920
to make it happen because you're just going to you're

626
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.119
gonna get handsy, you're gonna get your arms ahead of

627
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.359
your body, and you're gonna hit it all over the place.

628
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:21.799
And you know, without naming guys on tour, there's a

629
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.640
couple of guys that win a tournament. The next week,

630
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.640
you know they're at the very bottom because they're all

631
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.079
over the place. So when they're timing that big swing,

632
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.559
they're okay, but they can't do it every week. And

633
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.640
then you got the same guys in the middle of

634
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.400
the pack every single week, and then every now and

635
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.240
then then they break through. But when they don't win,

636
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.839
they don't drop to the very bottom. They're always up

637
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.880
in contention. And those are the guys that are in

638
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.319
control of that club hit. They're not out there trying

639
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.200
to hit it three fifty right now.

640
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.680
That's an excellent point. Pick a spot in the fairway

641
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.039
and get there. Don't and be fair to yourself, don't

642
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.880
try to crush it. Just try to get to your spot.

643
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.519
Yeah, just all you're trying to do is set the

644
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.440
whole up. That's what the driver does is sets the

645
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.799
whole off of the next shot. Put it a little

646
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:03.480
bit on the left center of the fairway, so you're

647
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.000
coming in at the right angle. You're not hitting over

648
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.240
a bunk or whatever. I mean. Hogan looked at the

649
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.519
faraway and quadrants, and he picked out a quadrant and

650
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.599
put it there. Now, you know, he was pretty special

651
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.319
about hitting the golf ball. But if you're if you've

652
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.599
cut everything, then get over to the far right of

653
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.960
the tee and aim it to the far left of

654
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:21.920
the fairway and let it cut back into the fairway.

655
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.799
That's why you're using the whole ferway. Aim it to

656
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:26.480
the right edge of the fairway and let your draw

657
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.599
work in the into the fairway. Now you're using the

658
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.640
whole fairway. What a lot of people do. They stand

659
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.920
in the middle of the tee and they hit it.

660
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.759
They're trying to hit it right straight down the middle.

661
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:36.680
So if they push it, it's going off the ferry.

662
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.480
If they pull it, it's going off the ferry because

663
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.960
they're only using half of the fairway. You understand what

664
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.559
I mean by that, Yeah, and so we In most cases,

665
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:47.400
you don't stand in the middle of the tee. You

666
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.440
either stand on the left side or the right side,

667
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.079
based on the shape, on the shape of your of

668
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.640
your drive. You know, I hit a little cut. Some

669
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:58.519
people hit a little draw uh or if my typical

670
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.319
shot cut or my typical shot draws, and then I'll

671
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.559
play that with the driver. I'm I'm I'm gonna position

672
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.319
myself on the tee to take advantage of the whole

673
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.519
pharaweh instead of half of it. So early on.

674
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.519
In the last episode when we were talking about you

675
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.440
know that everybody's swing is unique and it's you know,

676
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.000
it's really all about being square at contact. Correct, that's correct, okay,

677
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.880
And so there is no perfect swing, is this what

678
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:30.319
we're saying?

679
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.720
Absolutely, that's not possible. That's why the fairways are forty

680
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.960
to fifty yards wide and so forth, because there always

681
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.799
is going to be a little variancid impact, a little open,

682
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.200
a little closed. The more connected and the more rotational

683
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.039
you are in your golf swing, the more that you're

684
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.359
going to bring the club fairly consistently to the ball,

685
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.839
and you're going to you'll know where the club head is.

686
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.200
That's a big key is knowing where the club hit is.

687
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.880
So if you're rolling your forearms over trying to hit

688
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.599
a golf ball, there's no way to know to feel

689
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.000
where it is, you know, But when you're when you're

690
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.519
rotating your body and that's pulling the arms, and the

691
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.079
arms are connected to the body. Then the arms feel

692
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.359
like a lever connected to a gear, and as you

693
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:15.079
turn the lever, the lever moves moves forward, so you're

694
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.720
never swinging your arms freely. All this stuff about a

695
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.519
free arm swing, it should be in the comic books

696
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:26.000
because it isn't reality. The freer you armed swing, the

697
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.359
more the club has a chance to be open or closed.

698
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:29.200
We don't want that.

699
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.519
Well, Tony, once again, you've been a wealth of information.

700
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.680
I so enjoy speaking with you. Thank you so much

701
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.839
for your time to these last two episodes. And again, people,

702
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.720
if Tony intrigues you at all, there's a lot of

703
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.680
calls to action that we've gone through. One is make

704
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sure that you check out the video, the Golf Smarter TV,

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the video that we did together, because it's going to

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teach you a lot in a short amount of time.

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Well, Fred, I'd like to just close with one thing. Please,

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for the people out there that have listened to this.

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You know there's a lot of pontificating going on, but

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if you really want to get into this game, find

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someone that really understands rotation and connection. If they're not

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using those words to you and trying to get you

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to hoist the club up the air and then bring

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it down. You know, just run. Find somebody, just like

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going to a doctor. Find somebody that understands the simplicity

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of the golf swing. It isn't rocket science. It's really

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kind of simplistic once you connect all the parts and

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then just move them in a rotational move. If you

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find someone like that and that's patient, you're going to

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grow in the game and you're going to start enjoying

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the game. And then go to your golf pro if

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you belong to a club, and tell them a little

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bit about why don't we set this golf course up

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based on what the average guy hits it off the

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tee and I think your membership will be very happy.

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And you don't have to say we're moving it up.

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Just put the tea in a place where you were

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common said warrants it, and boy, I'll tell you what,

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the game will be enjoyable for everybody at that club.

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And you can make the golf course hard. You can

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narrow the fairways with roughs, you can put the pin

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in the funny positions so you don't have to worry

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about the being tough enough